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Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33)

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Re: Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33) 

Post#681 » by Frank Lee » Tue Mar 3, 2015 5:51 am

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Jdiddy701 wrote:Next time Suns play Thomas or Dragic, they will have a better team. Wish it was tomorrow but gonna have to wait a long offseason.


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Boston most likely. Miami? Maybe, I think Miami will be decent with Bosh/Dragic/Whiteside..although I think they should've just blown it up after LeBron left. Basically, they're banking on a championship with Dragic/Bosh/Deng/Whiteside/Old Wade, they have like a four year window with them. We might be better than them nexy year. It all depends on how Bledose/Knight mesh, and how much Len improves (maybe some post moves are next?).


yay.... so you will find comfort in beating two teams in the east that have former Suns players on them. And this will validate McDuh's awful yr? So, lets see, thats four wins. All we need is 46 more. Can we add Milw in there too to boost it to 6 ??? :noway:
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Re: Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33) 

Post#682 » by saintEscaton » Tue Mar 3, 2015 5:52 am

JTrain wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status/572557489876692992[/tweet]


That about says it all
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Re: Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33) 

Post#683 » by SarcasticSun » Tue Mar 3, 2015 5:53 am

JTrain wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status/572558438133321728[/tweet]

eh.. I doubt a Miami beat writer picked up on our playbook through one game
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Re: Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33) 

Post#684 » by SarcasticSun » Tue Mar 3, 2015 5:54 am

Frank Lee wrote:
SarcasticSun wrote:
Jdiddy701 wrote:Next time Suns play Thomas or Dragic, they will have a better team. Wish it was tomorrow but gonna have to wait a long offseason.


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Boston most likely. Miami? Maybe, I think Miami will be decent with Bosh/Dragic/Whiteside..although I think they should've just blown it up after LeBron left. Basically, they're banking on a championship with Dragic/Bosh/Deng/Whiteside/Old Wade, they have like a four year window with them. We might be better than them nexy year. It all depends on how Bledose/Knight mesh, and how much Len improves (maybe some post moves are next?).


yay.... so you will find comfort in beating two teams in the east that have former Suns players on them. And this will validate McDuh's awful yr? So, lets see, thats four wins. All we need is 46 more. Can we add Milw in there too to boost it to 6 ??? :noway:

Is this directed at me? I didn't really say it mattered much, just that we will probably be better than Boston, maybe better than Miami....
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Re: Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33) 

Post#685 » by SarcasticSun » Tue Mar 3, 2015 5:55 am

bwgood77 wrote:
SarcasticSun wrote:
Jdiddy701 wrote:Next time Suns play Thomas or Dragic, they will have a better team. Wish it was tomorrow but gonna have to wait a long offseason.


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Boston most likely. Miami? Maybe, I think Miami will be decent with Bosh/Dragic/Whiteside..although I think they should've just blown it up after LeBron left. Basically, they're banking on a championship with Dragic/Bosh/Deng/Whiteside/Old Wade, they have like a four year window with them. We might be better than them nexy year. It all depends on how Bledose/Knight mesh, and how much Len improves (maybe some post moves are next?).


I think he was saying the next time we play them, WE will have a better team, which is why he wishes it were tomorrow, but I could be wrong.

Well that just confused me even more.. it's been waaaay too hectic since the trade deadline :lol:
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Re: Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33) 

Post#686 » by RunDogGun » Tue Mar 3, 2015 5:57 am

JTrain wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status/572558438133321728[/tweet]

All D'Antoni did was scream,"Go!" over and over, and I'm sure this guy thought Mike was an offensive genius. After that, it was just basic pick and roll, let Nash create. :o
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Re: Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33) 

Post#687 » by Revived » Tue Mar 3, 2015 6:01 am

MrMiyagi wrote:THE SHIP IS SINKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH NO!!!!!! TRADING TWO ROTATIONS PLAYERS SHOULD TAKE NO TRANSITIONAL PERIOD AT ALL!!!!!!!!!! WE SHOULD BE IN THE PLAYOFFS OR WE SHOULD BE TANKING!!!!!!!!! WE AREN'T DOING EITHER, WE'RE JUST WINNING OCCASIONALLY AND LOSING OCCASIONALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS TEAM SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE'RE DOOMED!!!!!!!!!!!!

No wonder Kieff called out our fans.

Yea fans have no react to this great team. And Kieff being an All Star caliber player has every right to call out fans, I hope he does it more often.
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Re: Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33) 

Post#688 » by Revived » Tue Mar 3, 2015 6:02 am

JTrain wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status/572558438133321728[/tweet]

It actually does sum it up entirely.
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Re: Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33) 

Post#689 » by RunDogGun » Tue Mar 3, 2015 6:03 am

saintEscaton wrote:
JTrain wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status/572557489876692992[/tweet]


That about says it all

It could mean nothing. Bledsoe keeps non-caring attitude on the surface. I don't really know what he is thinking. Or it could mean that more sh*t happened between the point guards personally, that no one is talking about? Or maybe Bledsoe thought he and Goran were going to lead the team into the playoffs?
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Re: Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33) 

Post#690 » by gaspar » Tue Mar 3, 2015 6:05 am

RunDogGun wrote:Who cares what Goran gets. He bitched his way off the team, stating he was unhappy playing off the ball, yet tonight, he had no problem doing exactly what he said made him so unhappy? So either he is an idiot, and had no idea why he was mad, and played poorly because if it. Or he he just wanted to go to a big market team where he could make more money, and his wife could be in a place to make her own money.

Either way, he is a good player, that should have spent his summer working on the things to make himself better as a player. He should have worked on his free throw shooting, and his three pointers. He could have still averaged 20+ points even with Bledsoe and IT on the team.

But watching Wade bring the ball up so much, when Goran was in the game, made me think he was full of sh*t about wanting to be the main guy.

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Dragic's usage percentage this season:

in Phoenix 21.4%
in Miami 19.9%
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Re: Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33) 

Post#691 » by Revived » Tue Mar 3, 2015 6:05 am

Lol yea lets blame Bledsoe, he only had 20 pts and was the best player on the Suns tonight :rolleyes:
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Re: Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33) 

Post#692 » by letsgosuns » Tue Mar 3, 2015 6:08 am

Man the damn front page of the NBA page on ESPN is all about this game. Making it out to be like Dragic is some hero and the Suns are villains. This just keeps getting worse. Every single thing involving the Suns in the media right now is negative. Becoming a toxic situation. The Morris brothers keep on being in the middle of it too. They are killing this franchise's image. Who would want to play for this team if they are on it.
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Re: Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33) 

Post#693 » by Revived » Tue Mar 3, 2015 6:09 am

bigfoot wrote:Nottraxee mentioned in a post that Horny has lost the team and in another post said the front office wished he had a little more discipline with them. Wonder if he if he will get the hook this summer.

Well its not just the front office, the fans also wishes he had a little more discipline with the team. He lets them do whatever the hell they want unless their 23 or younger because then he has a leash on them.

I know Frank mentioned JVG, wouldn't be a bad idea. If Thibs somehow gets fired from the Bulls, we need to woo him here someway. Only problem is that he will want to turn the Suns into a defense first team and I'm not sure Sarver would be ok with that.

Imagine what Thibs can do with guys like Len and Bledsoe :o
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Re: Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33) 

Post#694 » by Frank Lee » Tue Mar 3, 2015 6:14 am

SarcasticSun wrote:Is this directed at me? I didn't really say it mattered much, just that we will probably be better than Boston, maybe better than Miami....


No... just cranky 8-) and tired of the Dragic debate.
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Re: Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33) 

Post#695 » by SarcasticSun » Tue Mar 3, 2015 6:14 am

letsgosuns wrote:Man the damn front page of the NBA page on ESPN is all about this game. Making it out to be like Dragic is some hero and the Suns are villains. This just keeps getting worse. Every single thing involving the Suns in the media right now is negative. Becoming a toxic situation. The Morris brothers keep on being in the middle of it too. They are killing this franchise's image. Who would want to play for this team if they are on it.

We really can't be villains, we aren't a good enough team. The Bad Boy's Pistons were villains because they won. The current team that is the villain would probably be either the Rockets or the Clippers. Although if we do become a contender with the Morris Twins we would absolutely be one of the most hated teams.
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Re: Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33) 

Post#696 » by Lakersteve20 » Tue Mar 3, 2015 6:14 am

That was an exciting game, very physical which I expected because because of the return of Dragic.

The Suns have a good team but is a Paul George away from being a championship contender. Bledsoe can be your 2nd best player and Len has the potential to be your 3rd, but your team is missing that elite SF that can take over games.
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Re: Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33) 

Post#697 » by SarcasticSun » Tue Mar 3, 2015 6:17 am

Lakersteve20 wrote:That was an exciting game, very physical which I expected because because of the return of Dragic.

The Suns have a good team but is a Paul George away from being a championship contender. Bledsoe can be your 2nd best player and Len has the potential to be your 3rd, but your team is missing that elite SF that can take over games.

Paul George would be amazing. I agree Bledsoe can be a #2. Len would be a solid #3, although who knows what his ceiling really is at this point. Still waiting on the star player basically.
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Re: Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33) 

Post#698 » by RunDogGun » Tue Mar 3, 2015 6:24 am

gaspar wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:Who cares what Goran gets. He bitched his way off the team, stating he was unhappy playing off the ball, yet tonight, he had no problem doing exactly what he said made him so unhappy? So either he is an idiot, and had no idea why he was mad, and played poorly because if it. Or he he just wanted to go to a big market team where he could make more money, and his wife could be in a place to make her own money.

Either way, he is a good player, that should have spent his summer working on the things to make himself better as a player. He should have worked on his free throw shooting, and his three pointers. He could have still averaged 20+ points even with Bledsoe and IT on the team.

But watching Wade bring the ball up so much, when Goran was in the game, made me think he was full of sh*t about wanting to be the main guy.

+1

Dragic's usage percentage this season:

in Phoenix 21.4%
in Miami 19.9%

He had no problem differing the ball to Wade tonight, as I saw him do all season to both Beldsoe and IT. Honestly it wasn't
Ike he knew he wasn't going to get any better than last year, wanted to cash in big on his next contract, so it wouldn't matter how he played (unless completely useless), he could demand a trade, do alright at the next city, and use his stats from last season to get the big money. He could always blame his stats on being unhappy, or betrayed.

This whole thing sticks, and he is just as much a pile of dung as anything.

He could have just came out like gangbusters make another all-NBA team, get us deep into the playoffs, and then super cash in, pretty much wherever he wanted. Who knows, he could have been happy if he spent the summer fine tuning his game, instead of worrying about being the main point guard, and exhausting himself in games that werent even the Olympics. That attitude seemed to be all over this team, at least what it looked like on the court.

I'm glad he is gone, he was very disappointing this year to me. Maybe that was my fault for liking him so much, and thought he could take it to the next level into greatness? Instead he kept all the same weakness, issues with free throws, started the season 0-11 in three pointers. If he wanted to be the man, there were plenty of games to do so. Both Bledsoe and IT had some pooper of games. Bledsoe and Goran being inconsistent created room for IT to want to prove himself worthy of a starting job. Maybe the FO thought that the three would try to out do the other but in control. It didn't work that way, they just weren't a pass first group.

Speaking of which, has anyone noticed that Bledsoe is trying to get everyone going earlier in the game? That first game against Minny, it just seemed like Bledsoe wasn't even trying to score to start, but instead try and pass more? It wasn't the whole game, but from the starts.
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Re: Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33) 

Post#699 » by Shaffty » Tue Mar 3, 2015 6:32 am

batsmasher wrote:STAHP hating on BK. He was the starting PG on a top 5 defensive team. He was an All-Star snub. He CAN ball. The problem lies in Phoenix.


I have a secrete, and its why the Bucks traded him. It wasn't him that made them a top 5 defense, and he wasn't the reason we were doing well.
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Re: Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33) 

Post#700 » by Revived » Tue Mar 3, 2015 6:33 am

saintEscaton wrote:I'm pretty sure we wouldn't be at the top of Thib's list of preference. We would need a complete personnel overhaul over a single offseason

Plus he would want to be a defense first team
And Sarver will never allow that.

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