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Draft Talk Aftermath - Who will win Rookie of the Year?

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If Jackson doesn't win ROY, who do you think will?

Ball
2
6%
Simmons
11
32%
Tatum
4
12%
Fox
1
3%
Fultz
9
26%
Isaac
0
No votes
Markkanen
0
No votes
Monk
0
No votes
Ntilikina
0
No votes
Smith, Jr
7
21%
 
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Post#681 » by RunSunRun » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:48 am

Wow, Golden State gets Bell from the Bulls for...cash??? Geez.
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Post#682 » by Moochthemonkey » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:51 am

BobbieL wrote:
LukasBMW wrote:Jackson, Bledsoe, and a future first for KP. (Better then what the Celtics offered)

PG 3 for Miami 17 + Knight + 2 seconds (better then what the
Lakers offered)

Sign Lowery.

Lowry/Ulis
Booker/Barbosa
PG3/Warren/Dudley
Chriss/Bender
KP/Tyson/Sauce

Win now. Build for the future. Balanced roster.


Paul George is going to the Lakers - one year rental. So maybe not the best move unless you could sign and trade for a guy like Clarkson but that's a reach. But I think Knight, Warren and maybe the Miami 1st might be doable - -but probably not for George - but Love in a three way deal. Granted, not sure how Love fits the roster

Barbosa - I doubt his option will be picked up - that's a lot of cap space saved. Unless the Rockets want to save cap space and trade him for Beverly

Lowry is interesting


Barbosa is making 4% of the cap...so what? There's mutual respect between him and the organization and the rest of the players, he's stated he wants to retire here, regardless of whether he's in the rotation or not. I don't see why his option wouldn't get picked up.
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Post#683 » by MrMiyagi » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:53 am

I'd take a flyer on Chris Boucher.
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Post#684 » by BobbieL » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:53 am

Moochthemonkey wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
LukasBMW wrote:Jackson, Bledsoe, and a future first for KP. (Better then what the Celtics offered)

PG 3 for Miami 17 + Knight + 2 seconds (better then what the
Lakers offered)

Sign Lowery.

Lowry/Ulis
Booker/Barbosa
PG3/Warren/Dudley
Chriss/Bender
KP/Tyson/Sauce

Win now. Build for the future. Balanced roster.


Paul George is going to the Lakers - one year rental. So maybe not the best move unless you could sign and trade for a guy like Clarkson but that's a reach. But I think Knight, Warren and maybe the Miami 1st might be doable - -but probably not for George - but Love in a three way deal. Granted, not sure how Love fits the roster

Barbosa - I doubt his option will be picked up - that's a lot of cap space saved. Unless the Rockets want to save cap space and trade him for Beverly

Lowry is interesting


Barbosa is making 4% of the cap...so what? There's mutual respect between him and the organization and the rest of the players, he's stated he wants to retire here, regardless of whether he's in the rotation or not. I don't see why his option wouldn't get picked up.


If you can get a better player with that - you might just not pick up the option. The Cap is down 3m - that can be a big deal
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Post#685 » by BobbieL » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:55 am

MrMiyagi wrote:I'd take a flyer on Chris Boucher.


Either a Euro stash
or a big guy at this point that can G league it
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Post#686 » by DaleyBlind » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:57 am

BobbieL wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:I'd take a flyer on Chris Boucher.


Either a Euro stash
or a big guy at this point that can G league it


yep
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Post#687 » by DaleyBlind » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:59 am

Motley still on the board, wasnt he projected 1st round pick
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Post#688 » by MrMiyagi » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:59 am

BobbieL wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:I'd take a flyer on Chris Boucher.


Either a Euro stash
or a big guy at this point that can G league it

I mean, we took Alec Brown. Boucher can hit the 3 and block shots. He probably needs to gain like 40lbs+, but I think it's good gamble at 54.
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Post#689 » by MathiasPW » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:00 am

Wasn't Ike supposed to be a first rounder?

Man, 47th pick
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Post#690 » by DaleyBlind » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:00 am

Is Kobi Simmons worth drafting?? U of A fans?
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Post#691 » by King4Day » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:00 am

At this point I wouldn't even talk with the Knicks about KP anymore. They played hardball and don't seem to be serious about making that move. I'm happy Jackson fell and would like to see how this goes.
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Post#692 » by DaleyBlind » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:01 am

MathiasPW wrote:Wasn't Ike supposed to be a first rounder?

Man, 47th pick


Apparently he has major medical issues with his knees, thus he fell
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Post#693 » by King4Day » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:01 am

Does anyone know if some of these late 2nd rounders that are actually there, do they go knowing they are being drafted (a promise perhaps) or do they go for the experience and if they're picked then they're picked?
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Post#694 » by Villalobos » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:01 am

MathiasPW wrote:Wasn't Ike supposed to be a first rounder?

Man, 47th pick


degenerative knee problems, if I heard correctly on the Vertical show.
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Post#695 » by MrMiyagi » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:01 am

DaleyBlind wrote:Is Kobi Simmons worth drafting?? U of A fans?

He could've used another year in college. He played very well at the beginning of the season, but tailed off when Trier came back.
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Post#696 » by blee732 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:02 am

I don't see us waiving Barbosa to save the $3.5M ($500k guaranteed). Sure cap space is important but I'm hoping we're not going after any major signings this offseason so the young guys get plenty of playing time.

Besides, seems like he legitimately wants to retire with us, and it's a bad look to cut him loose like that. I hope we keep him and give him a nice sending-off.
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Post#697 » by LukasBMW » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:02 am

I kinda stopped caring after 11.

I really stopped caring after 22.
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Post#698 » by Moochthemonkey » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:04 am

Monte Morris looks like a young Lebron James (sans the 'roids)
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Post#699 » by LukasBMW » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:04 am

blee732 wrote:I don't see us waiving Barbosa to save the $3.5M ($500k guaranteed). Sure cap space is important but I'm hoping we're not going after any major signings this offseason so the young guys get plenty of playing time.

Besides, seems like he legitimately wants to retire with us, and it's a bad look to cut him loose like that. I hope we keep him and give him a nice sending-off.


It's worth paying him just to keep him in the locker room.
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Post#700 » by DaleyBlind » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:05 am

LukasBMW wrote:
blee732 wrote:I don't see us waiving Barbosa to save the $3.5M ($500k guaranteed). Sure cap space is important but I'm hoping we're not going after any major signings this offseason so the young guys get plenty of playing time.

Besides, seems like he legitimately wants to retire with us, and it's a bad look to cut him loose like that. I hope we keep him and give him a nice sending-off.


It's worth paying him just to keep him in the locker room.


Just keep him away from his teammates wives

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