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Hunt For An ARIZAnable - Trade is OUBRE! - Final Poll results

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You can only keep two, who will it be going forward if they could all net the same in trade?

Mikal Bridges
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Josh Jackson
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Kelly Oubre Jr
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TJ Warren
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Post#681 » by Kerrsed » Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:44 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:In some ways Rozier is kind of the pg version of Jackson. Love his mindset but the ball just doesn't go in enough and defensively they both kind of appear to be better than the numbers would indicate.

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I kind of agree with this, but Jackson doesnt have the mentality or ego of being a star player. Rozier acts and thinks that he is James Harden. I dont know if he has always been like that or if its because of all the overhype-ness that Boston fans placed on him during the 3 months that he played well. Seriously, he thinks he is way way way way way way way better than he really is. Imagine Isaiah Thomas's mentality with half the skill. Thats Rozier. Scary.
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Post#682 » by sunskerr » Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:06 pm

I have to say I’m shocked kerrsed that you’re distancing yourself from rozier. Usually point guards who cannot shoot are your type of player.
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Post#683 » by Kerrsed » Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:14 pm

sunskerr wrote:I have to say I’m shocked kerrsed that you’re distancing yourself from rozier. Usually point guards who cannot shoot are your type of player.


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Post#684 » by sunskerr » Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:26 am

Kerrsed wrote:
sunskerr wrote:I have to say I’m shocked kerrsed that you’re distancing yourself from rozier. Usually point guards who cannot shoot are your type of player.


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Post#685 » by AtheJ415 » Mon Dec 24, 2018 1:57 am

I don't want Rozier at all. Warning signs are all coming to fruition, and I have a really hard time thinking a role player who is struggling under Stevens is going to somehow step up to be a star under another coach.
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Post#686 » by ray ray » Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:47 am

For the longest time I’ve wanted the suns to go after Avery Bradley... guess what? We have him, only he’s taller and 8 years younger and his name is De’Anthony Melton..
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Post#687 » by AtheJ415 » Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:53 am

No offense, but I hope Melton ends up a hell of a lot better than Avery Bradley, who is a tremendously awful offensive player and an overrated defender, and has been for most of his career. He shouldn't even be playing on that LAC team right now.
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Post#688 » by hollywood6964 » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:49 am

AtheJ415 wrote:No offense, but I hope Melton ends up a hell of a lot better than Avery Bradley, who is a tremendously awful offensive player and an overrated defender, and has been for most of his career. He shouldn't even be playing on that LAC team right now.

I highly doubt Melton has a five year stretch like bradley did from age 23 to 27. If he did it'd be an absolute miracle.
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Post#689 » by timetoshinebaby » Mon Dec 24, 2018 6:37 am

It's hard to imagine us improving to the point we aren't bottom 5.

Add another elite prospect and we will be awesome. I'm nervous about Williamson but imagine him slotting in at PF.

There's hope and we should be excited about another top prospect whoever that is.
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Post#690 » by sunsbum » Mon Dec 24, 2018 9:30 am

Listening to sports radio today and the Blazer pre game stuff came on. They were saying Doncic was the "obvious first pick" and that he's by far the best pick of the draft. I mean not even a squeak about Ayton. I'm not taking anything away from Doncic because I think hes an amazing talent and will only get better, I just feel like its a bit of injustice to Ayton with the numbers hes putting up that only can be topped in the last 30 years by the likes of Robinson, Hakeem, Shaq and maybe a couple others I've left out.
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Post#691 » by grumpysaddle » Mon Dec 24, 2018 9:54 am

sunsbum wrote:Listening to sports radio today and the Blazer pre game stuff came on. They were saying Doncic was the "obvious first pick" and that he's by far the best pick of the draft. I mean not even a squeak about Ayton. I'm not taking anything away from Doncic because I think hes an amazing talent and will only get better, I just feel like its a bit of injustice to Ayton with the numbers hes putting up that only can be topped in the last 30 years by the likes of Robinson, Hakeem, Shaq and maybe a couple others I've left out.


It was the chosen narrative for the season before the season began. Doncic is good, but I think when all is said and done, Ayton will be remembered alongside the great bigs of all time (if he continues to learn from his mistakes and continues to be aggressive). I feel like Doncic already gets treated like a superstar, which in the NBA means you get so much more from refs, whereas Ayton is going to have to earn it. I bet if Ayton was drafted anywhere else, he'd be the talk of the league, but when it's the Suns, the national media just scoff. It's kind of infuriating, but I'm used to it.
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Post#692 » by Bogyo » Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:11 am

grumpysaddle wrote:
sunsbum wrote:Listening to sports radio today and the Blazer pre game stuff came on. They were saying Doncic was the "obvious first pick" and that he's by far the best pick of the draft. I mean not even a squeak about Ayton. I'm not taking anything away from Doncic because I think hes an amazing talent and will only get better, I just feel like its a bit of injustice to Ayton with the numbers hes putting up that only can be topped in the last 30 years by the likes of Robinson, Hakeem, Shaq and maybe a couple others I've left out.


It was the chosen narrative for the season before the season began. Doncic is good, but I think when all is said and done, Ayton will be remembered alongside the great bigs of all time (if he continues to learn from his mistakes and continues to be aggressive). I feel like Doncic already gets treated like a superstar, which in the NBA means you get so much more from refs, whereas Ayton is going to have to earn it. I bet if Ayton was drafted anywhere else, he'd be the talk of the league, but when it's the Suns, the national media just scoff. It's kind of infuriating, but I'm used to it.


Yeah, but in this particular case you have to admit that it's not only hype with Doncic. That dude is a legit, bonafide superstar since day 1. Like Shaq, Duncan, AI, or LeBron. It's just unlucky that Ayton was in the same draft I believe. Also the fact that he went 1 and Doncic went later. If Ayton was drafted the same year as any of the players I mentioned up here, we would have the same oversight from national media I think.
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Post#693 » by sunsbum » Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:26 pm

Bogyo wrote:Yeah, but in this particular case you have to admit that it's not only hype with Doncic. That dude is a legit, bonafide superstar since day 1. Like Shaq, Duncan, AI, or LeBron.


Ayton isnt?
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Post#694 » by bwgood77 » Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:22 pm

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sunsbum wrote:Listening to sports radio today and the Blazer pre game stuff came on. They were saying Doncic was the "obvious first pick" and that he's by far the best pick of the draft. I mean not even a squeak about Ayton. I'm not taking anything away from Doncic because I think hes an amazing talent and will only get better, I just feel like its a bit of injustice to Ayton with the numbers hes putting up that only can be topped in the last 30 years by the likes of Robinson, Hakeem, Shaq and maybe a couple others I've left out.


It was the chosen narrative for the season before the season began. Doncic is good, but I think when all is said and done, Ayton will be remembered alongside the great bigs of all time (if he continues to learn from his mistakes and continues to be aggressive). I feel like Doncic already gets treated like a superstar, which in the NBA means you get so much more from refs, whereas Ayton is going to have to earn it. I bet if Ayton was drafted anywhere else, he'd be the talk of the league, but when it's the Suns, the national media just scoff. It's kind of infuriating, but I'm used to it.


Ayton should certainly be mentioned. It's tough to ignore his defense, but his offense and rebounding are elite. If he keeps up his current offensive play and rebounding, he should be able to get up to like 18 and 13 or so.

But I care more about his DFG% close to basket, recovery to the rim, and blocked shots.
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Post#695 » by Bogyo » Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:41 pm

sunsbum wrote:
Bogyo wrote:Yeah, but in this particular case you have to admit that it's not only hype with Doncic. That dude is a legit, bonafide superstar since day 1. Like Shaq, Duncan, AI, or LeBron.


Ayton isnt?


Sure he is! I've said even before of the draft, and keep saying, he is most likely be a multiple time all star! And it's a bit of a disgrace how he is overlooked by most everyone in national media. However, what Doncic has been doing so far has just been outshining Aytons regular, shiny double-doubles. Sorry to say, and I wish Ayton will do something about it (maybe a couple 20/20 games, or some nasty D in the second half of the season, or both!).
If I was intrested enough I could look up another draft where a lower pick outshined the No1 pick, who was more than legit in their own right, and media was like this about them as well. I'm pretty sure it has happened before...
Latest could be when Glenn Robinson was No1 and averaged 22 PPG in Milwaukee, but JKidd and Grant Hill took all the press and limelight and proceeded to ROY and better careers. Big Dog was an excelent pick, and well worthy of that No1 pick. And I think he could have had an even better career based on his talent.
Here is hoping that Ayton turns it around, plays even better than he does now, and proceeds to win ROY and have a better career than Doncic - I think we can agree on this. :)
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Post#696 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:50 pm

Meh as a suns fan I like ayton being overlooked. Seems like the type that it's good to keep some fire on his ass for extra motivation.

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Post#697 » by ray ray » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:08 pm

Let’s not forget that Luka has been playing since a young age with grown men. That alone will make him more season and initially will look like the better pick. Ayton didn’t start playing basketball until 13-14 years old and the transition from college ball to pros is a much harder jump.

Overall, they’re both going to be great players but the upside defiantly belongs to Ayton. He’s averaging 20 & 16 effortless at the age of 20 at the biggest and highest level in the world. That’s 5-6 years of just playing organize basketball.

Continue to watch him grow a and you’ll see what a player he’ll become barring any injuries. I love the nucleus of this team.
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Post#698 » by handsome salary » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:27 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Meh as a suns fan I like ayton being overlooked. Seems like the type that it's good to keep some fire on his ass for extra motivation.

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Worst record in the league? Worst start in franchise history? Truly terrible defense more often than not? It's best to keep quiet.
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Post#699 » by jcsunsfan » Mon Dec 24, 2018 6:15 pm

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WeekapaugGroove wrote:Meh as a suns fan I like ayton being overlooked. Seems like the type that it's good to keep some fire on his ass for extra motivation.

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Worst record in the league? Worst start in franchise history? Truly terrible defense more often than not? It's best to keep quiet.

We are starting three freaking rookies!!!!!! Who in their right mind thinks that a team starting three rookies is going to compete right away, especially with an opening schedule that is top two in difficulty in the league!!! The fact that team starting three rookies went on a 4 game win streak and performing as well as this team is right now is darn near miraculous.
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Post#700 » by BobbieL » Mon Dec 24, 2018 6:29 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:
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WeekapaugGroove wrote:Meh as a suns fan I like ayton being overlooked. Seems like the type that it's good to keep some fire on his ass for extra motivation.

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Worst record in the league? Worst start in franchise history? Truly terrible defense more often than not? It's best to keep quiet.

We are starting three freaking rookies!!!!!! Who in their right mind thinks that a team starting three rookies is going to compete right away, especially with an opening schedule that is top two in difficulty in the league!!! The fact that team starting three rookies went on a 4 game win streak and performing as well as this team is right now is darn near miraculous.


Yep -- no doubt. This is a very young team. Plus that Washington game left nothing in the tank for last night though Igor did a solid job of trying to mix and match - well it worked in the first half

Ayton is showing glimpses of why he was the 1st pick. Double - doubles every night. If he can improve his defense - talking a very talented player.

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