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Re: 2014 Draft Thread 

Post#701 » by thamadkant » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:00 pm

Some are also saying he can be similar to Paul George... if he develops his offense more.

so again, we go back to an athletic versatile wing...
comparisons to athletic wings who can slash, penetrate, spot up a bit and dish off after breaking down defense will always remain.

I dont see him similar to his dad, thats for sure... he can do more of everything, but not as good as a go to scorer as his dad who was a scoring machine.
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Re: 2014 Draft Thread 

Post#702 » by INFORMER-93 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:12 pm

Iguodala and Terrence Williams could both handle and distribute like a point guard in college. GR3 isn't anywhere close to that. He doesn't have standout playmaking ability, and his handles are average for a wing. Williams rebounded like a power forward in college; GR3 is just an average rebounder. Iguodala and Williams were huge defensive playmakers in college; GR3 is solid but hardly a game-changer.

GR3 is an athletic wing that looks like he has nice scoring potential at the next level. He has a solid touch from the perimeter, he can get his shot off, and he can finish at the rim. If you want a college comp, he is a little reminiscent of Vince Carter at UNC, although not nearly as above the rim. Vince Carter was also a better spot-up shooter.

And GR3 is not nearly as versatile as George was in college.
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Re: 2014 Draft Thread 

Post#703 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:17 pm

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bwgood77 wrote:Just out of curiousity...if we do end up missing the playoffs, and somehow win the lottery or at least a top 3 pick, who would you most want us to draft?


I really can't answer that right now. When Bledsoe was healthy, I was beginning to think that Andrew Wiggins best complemented the Dragic/Bledsoe duo. If Bledsoe comes back not right from his injury, or if retaining him in free agency (on a reasonable deal) looks doubtful, I would be more open to drafting Exum.

Your question is also difficult to answer because which top 3 pick the Suns would land would be a huge determining factor as to who would be taken. But, for the sake of argument, it's the top pick, I would be deciding between Parker and Embiid.


Even though I think Wiggins has been overhyped, I think I'd take Wiggins now too. Parker seems more like Melo to me, while Wiggins more in the mold of George. I am a MUCH bigger George fan.

If we traded one of our guards before the draft, I'd love to get Exum as well.
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Re: 2014 Draft Thread 

Post#704 » by INFORMER-93 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:22 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
INFORMER-93 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Just out of curiousity...if we do end up missing the playoffs, and somehow win the lottery or at least a top 3 pick, who would you most want us to draft?


I really can't answer that right now. When Bledsoe was healthy, I was beginning to think that Andrew Wiggins best complemented the Dragic/Bledsoe duo. If Bledsoe comes back not right from his injury, or if retaining him in free agency (on a reasonable deal) looks doubtful, I would be more open to drafting Exum.

Your question is also difficult to answer because which top 3 pick the Suns would land would be a huge determining factor as to who would be taken. But, for the sake of argument, it's the top pick, I would be deciding between Parker and Embiid.


Even though I think Wiggins has been overhyped, I think I'd take Wiggins now too. Parker seems more like Melo to me, while Wiggins more in the mold of George. I am a MUCH bigger George fan.

If we traded one of our guards before the draft, I'd love to get Exum as well.


No Embiid?
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Re: 2014 Draft Thread 

Post#705 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:25 pm

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No Embiid?


While I think he might be a great pick, lets just say I have high hopes that McD made a good choice on Len and he can be our future center. I'd hate to spend picks two years in a row on big men like that, especially with guys like Wiggins, Parker and Exum in the draft.

I really hope all the top 6-7 guys end up in the east, unless we somehow get one of them.
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Post#706 » by INFORMER-93 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:53 pm

I just couldn't bring myself to pass on a good to great prospect just because of gimpy-ankle Alex Len or super raw Archie Goodwin's presences on this team.
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Post#707 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:47 am

INFORMER-93 wrote:I just couldn't bring myself to pass on a good to great prospect just because of gimpy-ankle Alex Len or super raw Archie Goodwin's presences on this team.


If we didn't have a huge need at the 3-4 positions and Wiggins and Parker were not there, sure. If those two are gone, we still have our guards, and we have the third pick, sure I'd probably take him. I couldn't justify taking him over those other guys. If McD did, I'm not sure how I'd feel about him giving up on Len so quickly when the guy had bad ankles to begin with.
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Post#708 » by Ring_Wanted » Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:44 am

Depends on how much you buy the hype surrounding Embiid.

If I think he is a difference maker of a center, I draft him and worry about fits later, for instance, trading Kieff and reducing Frye's minutes (or moving him altogether if absolutely needed).

Assuming you have Miles at 30mpg, it still leaves more than twenty per game for the other three. Miles-Embiid-Len-Frye would be brutal, and you have full insurance in case of Len's ankles become chronic issues.

Parker is the only one I take before him right now, even considering Wiggins-team needs.

When the draft fever takes me, I'm sure I'll be wishing the Lakers get Exum and make a sign and trade for Bledsoe.
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Post#709 » by INFORMER-93 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:11 am

Ring_Wanted wrote:Depends on how much you buy the hype surrounding Embiid.


Forget the hype. Just watch the kid play.
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Post#710 » by Ring_Wanted » Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:22 am

INFORMER-93 wrote:
Ring_Wanted wrote:Depends on how much you buy the hype surrounding Embiid.


Forget the hype. Just watch the kid play.

I have (although not extensively) that's why he is #2 for me right now. Besides his impressive body he has actual baskeball skills, and that's scary. I don't see more than two teams passing on him, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was #1, Parker #2 and Wiggins #3.
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Post#711 » by INFORMER-93 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:31 am

Right now, there are a few prospects that I think are considerably overrated and in which I have no interest:

Jerami Grant, Sam Dekker, and Gary Harris.

The consensus top 7 has been Wiggins, Parker, Randle, Smart, Exum, Embiid, and Gordon. I think it's time to leave Gordon out of that group and replace him with Noah Vonleh.
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Re: 2014 Draft Thread 

Post#712 » by Ring_Wanted » Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:39 am

Yep, they say Vonleh has a quality post game, and is very athletic too, so he has the advantage over Gordon. I'd guess LaVine would too. I know nothing about Grant, Harris or Dekker (or Hood for that matter).
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Re: 2014 Draft Thread 

Post#713 » by thamadkant » Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:47 am

If some team would trade pick #1

For Bledsoe, Plumlee and all the 2014 picks ... Do Suns do it?
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Post#714 » by INFORMER-93 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:00 am

Good question.
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Post#715 » by Ring_Wanted » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:07 am

Inmense risk for both parties. I don't think either would have the guts to do it.
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Post#716 » by thamadkant » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:19 am

Suns would have to be 100% sold on whomever they want for pick 1.
And McD would probably put his career on stake...

Bledsoe is a legit Ty Lawson level PG 20/8 if left a main ball handler... Plumlee is a double double big...

Both young....



It's actually a huge risk for Suns... Maybe just 2 picks then.
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Re: 2014 Draft Thread 

Post#717 » by RunDogGun » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:22 am

1UPZ wrote:If some team would trade pick #1

For Bledsoe, Plumlee and all the 2014 picks ... Do Suns do it?

Not possible. FA period is after the draft. Bled isn't ours to trade at that point.
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Re: 2014 Draft Thread 

Post#718 » by thamadkant » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:28 am

RunDogGun wrote:
1UPZ wrote:If some team would trade pick #1

For Bledsoe, Plumlee and all the 2014 picks ... Do Suns do it?

Not possible. FA period is after the draft. Bled isn't ours to trade at that point.



Technically it's not possible..

But I suppose the scenario would be... Whom ever picks# 1 will trade for Suns on draft day, agreed before hand.
It would have to include Bledsoe agreeing to a near or max contract then trade to that team who gets pick #1.. as well.

I suppose it's more of a question of is the number 1 pick worth Bledsoe, Plumlee and late first round picks.
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Post#719 » by Qwigglez » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:44 am

Yes. I would do it.
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Post#720 » by wordsenuff » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:45 pm

1UPZ wrote:If some team would trade pick #1

For Bledsoe, Plumlee and all the 2014 picks ... Do Suns do it?

potentially 4 picks, a future all star and a rising big man? if i was in the suns FO, i dont think i would do it... but hey, thats just me.

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