Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5

[Kerrsed]

Dame is a guy worth advancing our #timeline.
Kemba's not.

What about Dame and Love?

Possible?

Lillard
Booker
Jackson
Love
Len

We'd probably have to give up Warren or Jackson, Bender and Chriss plus picks to get it done.

If you read the article about Dame, it doesn't sound like he really wants to be traded.

Lillard, who will turn 28 on July 15, requested the meeting in part to reaffirm his commitment to the only professional franchise he has suited up for, but also to gain assurances that the organization was just as devoted to expeditiously crafting a title-contending team, sources said....

...They also discussed players to target. The New York Times' Marc Stein recently reported that the Trail Blazers are one of the teams trying to engage in trade talks with the LA Clippers for big man DeAndre Jordan, but the Clippers haven't had any serious offers...

....Lillard desperately yearns to bring a championship to Portland, which is why he inquired about the organization's plan of attack to accelerate the process. He has four years remaining on a deal that owes him $115 million.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22185302/portland-trail-blazers-damian-lillard-meets-owner-paul-allen-team-direction

Well to get players of that caliber its going to take either a stud in return or some young talent and draft picks. I wonder if they are speaking about trying to trade CJ for help elsewhere. I could totally see Portland targeting Love (If he becomes available)...

[JDLAW]

What about Dame and Love?

Possible?

Lillard
Booker
Jackson
Love
Len

We'd probably have to give up Warren or Jackson, Bender and Chriss plus picks to get it done.

If you read the article about Dame, it doesn't sound like he really wants to be traded.

Lillard, who will turn 28 on July 15, requested the meeting in part to reaffirm his commitment to the only professional franchise he has suited up for, but also to gain assurances that the organization was just as devoted to expeditiously crafting a title-contending team, sources said....

...They also discussed players to target. The New York Times' Marc Stein recently reported that the Trail Blazers are one of the teams trying to engage in trade talks with the LA Clippers for big man DeAndre Jordan, but the Clippers haven't had any serious offers...

....Lillard desperately yearns to bring a championship to Portland, which is why he inquired about the organization's plan of attack to accelerate the process. He has four years remaining on a deal that owes him $115 million.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22185302/portland-trail-blazers-damian-lillard-meets-owner-paul-allen-team-direction

Well to get players of that caliber its going to take either a stud in return or some young talent and draft picks. I wonder if they are speaking about trying to trade CJ for help elsewhere. I could totally see Portland targeting Love (If he becomes available)...

I agree. I think Portland could move McCallum for some front court help. They have Napier who, while not as good as CJ, is suitable and they have a handful of others who can play the position. What Portland does not have is a front court threat. Their balance is bad enough to keep the mediocre.

[sunsbum]

Dame isn't going anywhere. CJ would be the one to go and even that would take a kings ransom to pry him away.

[darealjuice]

Jalen Rose went on First Take talking about how Kawhi wants out of SA . Probably total bull ****, but Ryan McDonough better have the kitchen sink locked and loaded for the Spurs should he become available lol. Don't know that we would be the team with the best offer though.

[LukasBMW]

Why the hell would Kawhi leave?

The Spurs are contenders, it is his team, and the league loves them.

Guess Pop and the Spurs really lucked out with low maintenance Duncan and submissive Parker/Ginobli for all those years. Between LMA and now Kawhi, I guess San Antonio isn't immune to league Divas.

Does Kawai want to go to a big market so he can get more exposure,endorsements,money?

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Jalen Rose went on First Take talking about how Kawhi wants out of SA . Probably total bull ****, but Ryan McDonough better have the kitchen sink locked and loaded for the Spurs should he become available lol. Don't know that we would be the team with the best offer though.

If Kawhi wants a quick path to contention, we're not that team.

For all of these rumors that are circulating, I see us as being the potential 3rd team. When big contracts get moved, the team that sends them out often wants expiring contracts. We have the league's biggest expiring contract that isn't connected to a valuable player. It only makes sense that teams would give us a call in hopes of facilitating a deal.

The only real question is what we would want in return. Because in general, I'd rather have the cap space than a low 1st and a bad contract. Maybe if it was just one more year, and the player in question was useful. But even then, I'd prefer to acquire that kind of player this summer.

[bigfoot]

Dame isn't going anywhere. CJ would be the one to go and even that would take a kings ransom to pry him away.

Probably better to try to get Naiper as a restricted free agent this summer.

[JDLAW]

Dame isn't going anywhere. CJ would be the one to go and even that would take a kings ransom to pry him away.

I agree with your assessment, but I don't think CJ will bring as much as they hope for in return. He will bring more than Bledsoe, but not what Irving brought. It will depend on what the receiving team thinks they are going to do with him. The question for the receiving team will be do we play him on the wing or the point. He is an excellent player, but can he play the point full time which means defending quicker and faster players. Hypothetically, if the Suns were to acquire him to play next to Booker, he would be the primary initiator of the offense and likely would have to guard the 1st team point guards on the other teams. If there is any doubt as to whether he can fulfill the role of point guard, Portland might have to accept less than they would like. It will still be a pricey.

[bwgood77]

Not that I think there is really much of a chance in hell they trade Kawhi, or that we'd have the type of assets to get him and retain Booker...

It is interesting to think of his situation...lets say he does want out, as Jalen Rose is now saying....

Think about it. You are just hitting your prime at the age of 26. Many talk about our players being too young. But think about his situation in the opposite sense. TD played well until he retired...Manu retiring...Parker old. Then you have older guys like Pau Gasol and Rudy Gay and a me-first guy who wanted out in LaMarcus Aldridge.

Thinking about all that, it really doesn't sound like a terribly appealing situation for a superstar about to hit is prime. Not that he'd want to join a rebuilding team with 20-22 year olds either.

Then again, he is eligible to sign extension for a 5 year, $217 million deal this summer, so that's could be the real deciding factor unless he simply was so unhappy he doesn't want that.

Of course it's all just hearsay now...

I can't even imagine what it would take in the slim chance the Spurs do trade him and what team might have the assets. Maybe a team like Boston who has a ton of good players and that Lakers/Kings pick.

Thread talking about what Jalen Rose said about him viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1663694

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[Saberestar]

Dame isn't going anywhere. CJ would be the one to go and even that would take a kings ransom to pry him away.

I agree with your assessment, but I don't think CJ will bring as much as they hope for in return. He will bring more than Bledsoe, but not what Irving brought. It will depend on what the receiving team thinks they are going to do with him. The question for the receiving team will be do we play him on the wing or the point. He is an excellent player, but can he play the point full time which means defending quicker and faster players. Hypothetically, if the Suns were to acquire him to play next to Booker, he would be the primary initiator of the offense and likely would have to guard the 1st team point guards on the other teams. If there is any doubt as to whether he can fulfill the role of point guard, Portland might have to accept less than they would like. It will still be a pricey.

I would love to trade for CJ.
I like him more than Kemba, and I think he is better defending PGs than SGs.

[WeekapaugGroove]

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/article/charlotte-hornets-kemba-walker-nba-trade-deadline/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=mattmoore

Interesting article. Not so much specifically on kemba but just that dynamic of trading for guys who want to play here.

[sunsbum]

Dame isn't going anywhere. CJ would be the one to go and even that would take a kings ransom to pry him away.

I agree with your assessment, but I don't think CJ will bring as much as they hope for in return. He will bring more than Bledsoe, but not what Irving brought. It will depend on what the receiving team thinks they are going to do with him. The question for the receiving team will be do we play him on the wing or the point. He is an excellent player, but can he play the point full time which means defending quicker and faster players. Hypothetically, if the Suns were to acquire him to play next to Booker, he would be the primary initiator of the offense and likely would have to guard the 1st team point guards on the other teams. If there is any doubt as to whether he can fulfill the role of point guard, Portland might have to accept less than they would like. It will still be a pricey.

The reason I think it would take so much is because Dame and CJ are best friends. I couldn't see Damian signing off on anything short of top level superstar. The blazers brass won't get away with trading him for picks and or young talent for the reason i mentioned above. Unfortunately the blazers have made so many mediocre moves in handing out contracts the past few years their hands are tied.

[rsavaj]

McDonough turned Bledsoe, IT, Dragic and the Lakers pick into Knight, Monroe, and some mid-late first rounders.

I have no faith in him landing guys like Kawhi,Dame or even Kemba, CJ, Love.

[jcsunsfan]

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/article/charlotte-hornets-kemba-walker-nba-trade-deadline/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=mattmoore

Interesting article. Not so much specifically on kemba but just that dynamic of trading for guys who want to play here.

Thank you for posting. Very interesting. Basically says that if you trade for Kemba, you better make sure he really wants to be there or he will be gone a little more than a year from now.

[King4Day]

I mentioned this in the main forum but I would trade pretty much anything/one not named booker.

Jackson or Warren (Spurs choice), 2018/20 unprotected 1sts. Miami 2018 and bucks 1sts and Monroe for Leonard and whatever garbage contracts they wanna dump (likely either Mills or Gasol).

[sunsbum]

I'd also like to point out that Lamarcus Aldridge left the blazers because he didn't want to be 2nd fiddle to Lillard. LMA asked for a trade this off-season so they tweaked their offense to keep him happy. I guess what I'm saying is I wouldn't be surprised if LMA has something to do with Leonard wanting out. He's always had a quiet me first pouty attitude.

[King Ken]

What would it take for you to take a deal for Shumpert or J.R. Smith from Cleveland?

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[rsavaj]

What would it take for you to take a deal for Shumpert or J.R. Smith from Cleveland?

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a decent first IMO

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

What would it take for you to take a deal for Shumpert or J.R. Smith from Cleveland?

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a decent first IMO

No way. Not taking on those albatrosses. This is basically a non-starter.

Maaaybe the BKN pick.