2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation

cberry78 · Post #7141 » by **cberry78** » Tue May 10, 2022 12:52 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
cberry78 wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:I think I speak for the majority when I say I'd rather refs miss a lot of calls (on both sides) than refs calling every foul, having an impact on the game, the product and becoming a "narrative" of a game.

Which side of the call does a moving screen fall on?

No call

Which side should they fall on though?

Post #7142 » by **bwgood77** » Tue May 10, 2022 3:25 am

cberry78 wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
cberry78 wrote:Which side of the call does a moving screen fall on?

No call

Which side should they fall on though?

I think they should all be no calls.

cberry78 · Post #7143 » by **cberry78** » Tue May 10, 2022 3:34 am

bwgood77 wrote:
cberry78 wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:No call

Which side should they fall on though?

I think they should all be no calls.

Yeah, all would be nice.

starbosa10 · Post #7144 » by **starbosa10** » Tue May 10, 2022 4:36 am

cberry78 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
cberry78 wrote:Which side should they fall on though?

I think they should all be no calls.

Yeah, all would be nice.

I just want consistency that's all. Call it tight or let them play idgaf, just whistle the same way for both teams

cberry78 · Post #7145 » by **cberry78** » Tue May 10, 2022 4:40 am

starbosa10 wrote:
cberry78 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
I think they should all be no calls.

Yeah, all would be nice.

I just want consistency that's all. Call it tight or let them play idgaf, just whistle the same way for both teams

Mulhollanddrive · Post #7146 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Tue May 10, 2022 4:49 am

I'd like refs to be biased to us

BobbieL · Post #7147 » by **BobbieL** » Wed May 11, 2022 3:34 pm

starbosa10 wrote:
cberry78 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
I think they should all be no calls.

Yeah, all would be nice.

I just want consistency that's all. Call it tight or let them play idgaf, just whistle the same way for both teams

I agree - just be consistent. I know thats hard as dealing with the human element - but if you see a foul on one end, than its a foul on the other end

King4Day · Post #7148 » by **King4Day** » Wed May 11, 2022 4:54 pm

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Post #7149 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed May 11, 2022 11:05 pm

Read on Twitter

It's not THE MVP but #4 on the list is pretty respectful. I know we were the best team and even though CP3 didn't take much share of the votes, it's clear the image of the Suns is not one led by Book but one by Book and CP3 and that certainly takes some shine away from Booker. But I think this is a great result, it's great to get the respect and recognition that this *isnt* CP3's team but Booker's, as it should be

Post #7150 » by **bwgood77** » Thu May 12, 2022 12:11 am

lilfishi22 wrote:

Read on Twitter

It's not THE MVP but #4 on the list is pretty respectful. I know we were the best team and even though CP3 didn't take much share of the votes, it's clear the image of the Suns is not one led by Book but one by Book and CP3 and that certainly takes some shine away from Booker. But I think this is a great result, it's great to get the respect and recognition that this *isnt* CP3's team but Booker's, as it should be

Yeah, it's Booker's team and he has been here since he was drafted. CP3 came in and showed everyone the work it took, gave tips, showed leadership, etc, but I think Book has absorbed a lot of that even though CP3 was obviously the catalyst for the turnaround because we needed to figure out how to win for an entire season and get into and fight in the playoffs.

It is kind of weird that Paul was regularly ranking 4th in MVP charts until his injury and then Booker vaulted up after that, all the way to the same spot, with Paul dropping. But I think that was kind of the handing over of the torch even though it was due to injury.

Of course we desperately need a PG of the future unless Book can be that and we go with another SG/wing.

RunDogGun · Post #7151 » by **RunDogGun** » Thu May 12, 2022 12:18 am

Now if Booker just got the calls like a 4th place MVP candidate, I would be happy. As of now Kleber seems to get better calls.

Post #7152 » by **bwgood77** » Thu May 12, 2022 4:23 am

Someone on the GB pointed out that Book was 58th in drives after someone else pointed out he was 29th in FTA.

thamadkant · Post #7153 » by **thamadkant** » Thu May 12, 2022 4:55 am

cberry78 wrote:
starbosa10 wrote:
cberry78 wrote:Yeah, all would be nice.

I just want consistency that's all. Call it tight or let them play idgaf, just whistle the same way for both teams

Damn, Thor looking rough these days.

thamadkant · Post #7154 » by **thamadkant** » Thu May 12, 2022 5:01 am

About Saric...

He's actually the perfect compliment to McGee, Cam Johnson off the bench as PF or small ball C offense wise.

Saric over Craig purely because of Crowder being there... but if Crowder was to be traded Craig would become a very important player as he brings the strong enforcer wing.

But I wonder if Raptors is willing to trade Anunoby for Cam Johnson and a pick since now Scottie Barnes looks to be their key Small Forward for the future. Cam Johnson would be a better bench player for them and ideal salary wise. Suns would need to get rid of Crowder and Craig though.

Post #7155 » by **lilfishi22** » Thu May 12, 2022 6:56 am

bwgood77 wrote:Someone on the GB pointed out that Book was 58th in drives after someone else pointed out he was 29th in FTA.

As in he shouldn't be 29th in FTA because he's only 58th in drives?

Post #7156 » by **lilfishi22** » Thu May 12, 2022 7:00 am

thamadkant wrote:About Saric...

He's actually the perfect compliment to McGee, Cam Johnson off the bench as PF or small ball C offense wise.

Saric over Craig purely because of Crowder being there... but if Crowder was to be traded Craig would become a very important player as he brings the strong enforcer wing.

But I wonder if Raptors is willing to trade Anunoby for Cam Johnson and a pick since now Scottie Barnes looks to be their key Small Forward for the future. Cam Johnson would be a better bench player for them and ideal salary wise. Suns would need to get rid of Crowder and Craig though.

Don't think they really need to at this stage. OG is on a great contract and it's tough to know exactly how much Cam will get paid when he's extension eligible this offseason. If I'm Toronto, I'd prefer the defense and known contract value of OG over better 3PT shooting of Cam

Post #7157 » by **bwgood77** » Thu May 12, 2022 2:30 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Someone on the GB pointed out that Book was 58th in drives after someone else pointed out he was 29th in FTA.

As in he shouldn't be 29th in FTA because he's only 58th in drives?

That was the point and a pretty good one for a rebuttal I thought. He may get hacked more than some who drive, but half?
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You'd probably need to figure out how to look at drives on nba.com/stats. Many are probably guys like Ja and Fox as well as the bigger names and maybe a few Cs.

I don't think he gets fouled as much on jump shots.

His drives have gone way down. His 2pt% as a result had dropped a lot from the last 3 years, at least when I checked earlier this year, and probably his FTA too.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #7158 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Thu May 12, 2022 11:35 pm

Read on Twitter

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I think he of course means Jahm Najafi or Bob Iger. Never can ge too sure though if Xin Varlock is just clowning or being sarcastic as that's his schtick......lol. And as BWgood has already pointed out, Iger has less financial ability than Sarver currently. But I'd be all for Najafi and his Billions to become majority owner! :nod:

starbosa10 · Post #7159 » by **starbosa10** » Thu May 12, 2022 11:39 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=20

Who are the sources though :lol:

not believing anything or getting any hopes until Sarver announces he's gone

Post #7160 » by **lilfishi22** » Thu May 12, 2022 11:46 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=20

I think he of course means Jahm Najafi or Bob Iger. Never can ge too sure though if Xin Varlock is just clowning or being sarcastic as that's his schtick......lol. And as BWgood has already pointed out, Iger has less financial ability than Sarver currently. But I'd be all for Najafi and his Billions to become majority owner!

Jahm MORANT ???

Isn't the guy's name Jahm Najafi ?

Do you truly expect the Suns to win the finals this year?