2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Cool I guess!.............lol.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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I think he of course means Jahm Najafi or Bob Iger. Never can ge too sure though if Xin Varlock is just clowning or being sarcastic as that's his schtick......lol. And as BWgood has already pointed out, Iger has less financial ability than Sarver currently. But I'd be all for Najafi and his Billions to become majority owner!

Jahm MORANT ???

Isn't the guy's name Jahm Najafi ?

Yep! He's clowning around.

[TeamTragic]

I think we are going to see a really different SUNS team next season.

Maybe not dramatically different but certain players are on the way out.

[bwgood77]

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I think he of course means Jahm Najafi or Bob Iger. Never can ge too sure though if Xin Varlock is just clowning or being sarcastic as that's his schtick......lol. And as BWgood has already pointed out, Iger has less financial ability than Sarver currently. But I'd be all for Najafi and his Billions to become majority owner!

We already know this. I don't think Xin has any sources...maybe Flex or something. But there is no news on the Sarver investigation so that's the main thing.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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I think he of course means Jahm Najafi or Bob Iger. Never can ge too sure though if Xin Varlock is just clowning or being sarcastic as that's his schtick......lol. And as BWgood has already pointed out, Iger has less financial ability than Sarver currently. But I'd be all for Najafi and his Billions to become majority owner!

We already know this. I don't think Xin has any sources...maybe Flex or something. But there is no news on the Sarver investigation so that's the main thing.

Yep! Rehash of old news for sure. But wishful thinking with the offseason imminently upon us possibly sooner than we'd like.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Can we pry Donovan Mitchell?

[Damkac]

I think we are going to see a really different SUNS team next season.

Maybe not dramatically different but certain players are on the way out.

It will be cheaper, that's for sure.

[starbosa10]

Can we pry Donovan Mitchell?

For who??? He plays no defense

[bwgood77]

Timeline pod is pretty good.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2paqXFLFjYu72ZIqpO4GeL?si=mr8lWg3lRm6jntRVeQcsOQ&nd=1

[bwgood77]

I was looking at it...we averaged just under 32 3PA a game this year, and in this series are averaging 26 3PA a game...doesn't make sense. 32 was already one of the lowest in the league.

Mavs averaged 37 and now are taking 39 a game in this series. This last game we took 18 and hit 6 of them...Crowder and Bridges only shot 1 3 each, passing up some for drives...they made the ones they tried...all our players are overthinking open 3s driving or whatever and need to just let them fly.

[RaisingArizona]

Can we pry Donovan Mitchell?

For who??? He plays no defense

We need to grab a point guard who can evenly split time with CP3 next year and take over thereafter. Has to be a priority now.

[garrick]

Which backup PG who isn't washed or too pricey is available next season?

Backup PG is definitely the priority in the offseason since Payne is clearly not the answer as the 2nd string PG.

Just noticed that Papa Ricky is a free agent next season. Now I would be all up for bringing him back but would he come back and how much does he have in the tank after his season ending injury and how soon can he come back after his ACL injury?

[RaisingArizona]

Which backup PG who isn't washed or too pricey is available next season?

Backup PG is definitely the priority in the offseason since Payne is clearly not the answer as the 2nd string PG.

Just noticed that Papa Ricky is a free agent next season. Now I would be all up for bringing him back but would he come back and how much does he have in the tank after his season ending injury and how soon can he come back after his ACL injury?

Tyus might be the best option. Maybe Rubio or Dragic as a 3rd option

[Mulhollanddrive]

Donovan Mitchell or Kyrie Irving would be my targets.

[garrick]

Donovan Mitchell or Kyrie Irving would be my targets.

I don't think we can afford either and both would rather start than come off the bench.

They are both defensive liabilities and more of a scoring PG than a true PG so I do see some issues there, with Kyrie I would question his dedication to winning and I don't think he would be a good fit here.

[bwgood77]

538 has the Mavs and Warriors odds of winning the finals the same. It doesn't appear they think too highly of the Warriors even after knocking out the Grizzlies.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-nba-predictions/?ex_cid=rrpromo

*If you switch to ELO, Warriors odds get a bit better.

[Mr Puddles]

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I think he of course means Jahm Najafi or Bob Iger. Never can ge too sure though if Xin Varlock is just clowning or being sarcastic as that's his schtick......lol. And as BWgood has already pointed out, Iger has less financial ability than Sarver currently. But I'd be all for Najafi and his Billions to become majority owner!

If Disney ends up buying the Suns, pencil us in for a quarter-century dynasty at least. Mickey gets a bad rep, but that Mouse runs a tight ship so we can say goodbye to front office shenanigans. Also, with the way they've milked Star Wars and Marvel, I'm expecting at least 8 different Phoenix Suns themed variety shows on the streaming platform.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Can we pry Donovan Mitchell?

For who??? He plays no defense

We need to grab a point guard who can evenly split time with CP3 next year and take over thereafter. Has to be a priority now.

I really don't think Pera will let Tyus Jones go. Money won't at all be an issue for the Grizzlies either with him as their owner. What about Tre Jones from the Spurs? He's not great, but still a good passer with a high IQ, he's not yet great offensively yet but is very good defensively, He is a solid ballhawking guard with a solid assist- turnover ratio of 5.1, only 2nd to his brother Tyus Jones 6.1?

In the bigger scale end contractually, I 'll say again that the Timberwolves will be looking to move DeAngelo Russell and the Pacers will be looking to trade Malcolm Brogdon too. Both would be around 20 million contractually. But both would be major upgrades for our current backcourt alongside of Booker. The Pacers also have Rubios' expiring and he'll be an unrestricted free agent this summer too.

I know that Russell didn't have the best playoffs for the Wolves. However, I still think he could become a very good compliment to Booker for a possible PGOTF consideration. I think he could have a resurgence in a new environment here in Phoenix. And Paul could transition to our bench IF he wants to stay in Phoenix with Monty as the best Bench leader in the entire NBA. Then he could transition to the bench or front office if he likes to retire in Phoenix!

Or we could look to trade with Indiana for Brogdon somehow since they'll be looking to move him go open up a starting position for Haliburton. Brogdon would also be very solid if we could make a trade work for him somehow?

Then of course there's Rubio in free agency. But I don't see any reason ( outside of overpaying him) that he'd consider coming back to play for us after how we treated him. Personally aside from the above pricier options or Tre Jones via trade, I think that we should really be more open to actually looking to trade into or purchase a pick in the early to mid 2nd round to start developing a better guard option to be mentored by Paul.

There are numerous very solid floor general type guards that would be upgrades to what Payne or Payton have shown to date. Once we get to the offseason, and IF there's genuine interest still, I can offer best cost effective options to upgrade our bench gusrd depth. For instance, here are 5 names of 2nd round guard gems to really look into:

1- Alondes Williams ( Wake Forest) 6'6 mix of Deron Williams/ Baron Davis.

2- Dalen Terry ( Arizona) 6'7 do it all utility combo wing whose really good at everything. A mix of Terrence Mann/ Nick Batum.

3- Andrew Nembhard ( Gonzaga) 6'6 floor general/ playmaking extraordinaire! He's a mix of Andre Miller/ much better shooting Elfrid Payton.

4- Jordan Hall ( St Josephs) a 6'7 playmaking combo wing , Kyle Anderson 2.0. Very solid !

5- Ziga Samar ( Slovenia) a 6'6 mix of a better shooting Rubio/ Dragic. He's a very smooth playmaker for his size and a very good shooter.

Both Jordan Hall and Ziga Samar might even be in the undrafted pool. Alondes Williams would be a huge upgrade as a scoring option/ ISO scorer to Payne. He's very good at breaking down defenses and has explosive athleticism and underrated flashy passing. He'll likely be in the early to mid 2nd range. Dalen Terry and Andrew Nembhard will both likely be in the mid 2nd range. Knowing this, we could actually look to move Payne or possibly even look to stretch him and replace him with one of the above mentioned options???

[Barkley6]

Which backup PG who isn't washed or too pricey is available next season?

Backup PG is definitely the priority in the offseason since Payne is clearly not the answer as the 2nd string PG.

Just noticed that Papa Ricky is a free agent next season. Now I would be all up for bringing him back but would he come back and how much does he have in the tank after his season ending injury and how soon can he come back after his ACL injury?

Jordan Clarkson is a guy I'd keep an eye on as a trade target if Utah really decides to blow it up. Could see a combination of players like Shamet, Payne, Craig or Saric shipped out.

I definitely think we will be looking more at trades to upgrade the roster than FA because of our cap situation and how shallow the FA pool is.

[bwgood77]

For who??? He plays no defense

We need to grab a point guard who can evenly split time with CP3 next year and take over thereafter. Has to be a priority now.

I really don't think Pera will let Tyus Jones go. Money won't at all be an issue for the Grizzlies either with him as their owner. What about Tre Jones from the Spurs? He's not great, but still a good passer with a high IQ, he's not yet great offensively yet but is very good defensively, He is a solid ballhawking guard with a solid assist- turnover ratio of 5.1, only 2nd to his brother Tyus Jones 6.1?

In the bigger scale end contractually, I 'll say again that the Timberwolves will be looking to move DeAngelo Russell and the Pacers will be looking to trade Malcolm Brogdon too. Both would be around 20 million contractually. But both would be major upgrades for our current backcourt alongside of Booker. The Pacers also have Rubios' expiring and he'll be an unrestricted free agent this summer too.

I know that Russell didn't have the best playoffs for the Wolves. However, I still think he could become a very good compliment to Booker for a possible PGOTF consideration. I think he could have a resurgence in a new environment here in Phoenix. And Paul could transition to our bench IF he wants to stay in Phoenix with Monty as the best Bench leader in the entire NBA. Then he could transition to the bench or front office if he likes to retire in Phoenix!

Or we could look to trade with Indiana for Brogdon somehow since they'll be looking to move him go open up a starting position for Haliburton. Brogdon would also be very solid if we could make a trade work for him somehow?

Then of course there's Rubio in free agency. But I don't see any reason ( outside of overpaying him) that he'd consider coming back to play for us after how we treated him. Personally aside from the above pricier options or Tre Jones via trade, I think that we should really be more open to actually looking to trade into or purchase a pick in the early to mid 2nd round to start developing a better guard option to be mentored by Paul.

There are numerous very solid floor general type guards that would be upgrades to what Payne or Payton have shown to date. Once we get to the offseason, and IF there's genuine interest still, I can offer best cost effective options to upgrade our bench gusrd depth. For instance, here are 5 names of 2nd round guard gems to really look into:

1- Alondes Williams ( Wake Forest) 6'6 mix of Deron Williams/ Baron Davis.

2- Dalen Terry ( Arizona) 6'7 do it all utility combo wing whose really good at everything. A mix of Terrence Mann/ Nick Batum.

3- Andrew Nembhard ( Gonzaga) 6'6 floor general/ playmaking extraordinaire! He's a mix of Andre Miller/ much better shooting Elfrid Payton.

4- Jordan Hall ( St Josephs) a 6'7 playmaking combo wing , Kyle Anderson 2.0. Very solid !

5- Ziga Samar ( Slovenia) a 6'6 mix of a better shooting Rubio/ Dragic. He's a very smooth playmaker for his size and a very good shooter.

Both Jordan Hall and Ziga Samar might even be in the undrafted pool. Alondes Williams would be a huge upgrade as a scoring option/ ISO scorer to Payne. He's very good at breaking down defenses and has explosive athleticism and underrated flashy passing. He'll likely be in the early to mid 2nd range. Dalen Terry and Andrew Nembhard will both likely be in the mid 2nd range. Knowing this, we could actually look to move Payne or possibly even look to stretch him and replace him with one of the above mentioned options???

No on Russell...we'd have to give up Cam in S&T but I think Russell makes more...I think he maes the max...that's nuts...coem on?

Rubio? I don't think so..injury prone, getting older, can't shoot. I really like him and wouldn't mind...he loves the team and they love him..he'd have to play on the cheap though.

Again, does Tyus Jones want to eventually start or be a backup to Morant for the future? If we went after him it is up to him.

I looked at FA before. Not too many.

Best option might be use another wing and let Book play the Harden role.

We have another year though. I am worried about the CP3 decline or injuries as I have been from the start at his age, but he has been healthier the last 3 years than the previous number of years, so he may keep it up again. We just have to make sure he doesn't play a ton if he gets worn out or gets switched on and has to guard the other team's best players like Dallas has been doing for 4 games. Keep Bridges or Crowder on Luka...even Booker over Paul...or even Ayton.