Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion

[bwgood77]

I don't think we are really shopping Bledsoe. Maybe we'd take back Porzingis, but the only deal we could probably get from the Kings is a Stauskas or McLemore, Thompson or Landry, and a first rounder, but this would have to have minimal protection on it....or unprotected.

[JMac1]

Isn't it funny how the Lakers who everyone thought had no assets like 12 months ago and the Suns who were apparently loaded with assets have switched places?

The Lakers are now in talks with the Kings to acquire a top 3 big man in the NBA while the Suns haven't been linked to Cousins in any shape or form.

So I guess the Lakers assets are worth more than the Suns assets?

Its gonna be disgusting to see the Lakers rebuild or retool much faster than the Suns.

If these reports are true than I can see the Kings jumping all over D'Angelo Russel if the Lakers are willing to give him up to make a splash. Ranadive has finally accepted the reality of the situation and sidelined Vlade by allowed Cousins's agent to begin negotiating a trade with LAL. So it could already be in the works. This probably means that assuming Love stays in Cleveland LMA will be the only premiere PF on the market and he seems Texas bound. Lol LMA is open to signing with Toronto but not us. And Monroe is likely headed to the Knicks. Yeah we have no shot at upgrading through FA

So? Boo effing hoo!!

I like our t PGs, our future SG, Warren and Len. Guys with much potential, let them develop into a star/s, and get a PF later. It's not the end of the world, if we don't get one. Who was the Warriors all world PF and Center and SF for that matter? Curry and his side kick was all it took with a bunch of players who knew their roles.

[saintEscaton]

Isn't it funny how the Lakers who everyone thought had no assets like 12 months ago and the Suns who were apparently loaded with assets have switched places?

The Lakers are now in talks with the Kings to acquire a top 3 big man in the NBA while the Suns haven't been linked to Cousins in any shape or form.

So I guess the Lakers assets are worth more than the Suns assets?

Its gonna be disgusting to see the Lakers rebuild or retool much faster than the Suns.

If these reports are true than I can see the Kings jumping all over D'Angelo Russel if the Lakers are willing to give him up to make a splash. Ranadive has finally accepted the reality of the situation and sidelined Vlade by allowed Cousins's agent to begin negotiating a trade with LAL. So it could already be in the works. This probably means that assuming Love stays in Cleveland LMA will be the only premiere PF on the market and he seems Texas bound. Lol LMA is open to signing with Toronto but not us. And Monroe is likely headed to the Knicks. Yeah we have no shot at upgrading through FA

So? Boo effing hoo!!

I like our t PGs, our future SG, Warren and Len. Guys with much potential, let them develop into a star/s, and get a PF later. It's not the end of the world, if we don't get one. Who was the Warriors all world PF and Center and SF for that matter. Curry and his side kick was all it took with a bunch of role players.

Totally irrelevant. Who is our Splash Bros? The way our roster is set up we have financially constricted ourselves by commiting ourselves to a long term backcourt of two overpaid positionless guards.This means our franchise player has to be a big man Bled is not a true PG/floor marshall and Knight is a solid shooter but should be better in shot selection and not jack up so many contested threes becuase he's not a elite marksmen behind hte arc like Klay. Not a natural SG and more a 2 trapped in the body of a 1. Comparisonslike this and posters talking about us becoming "Dubs Lite" is asinine imo. I doubt anybody on this roster is gunna turn out to be an All-Star in the West in the next couple of years.

[BobbieL]

Isn't it funny how the Lakers who everyone thought had no assets like 12 months ago and the Suns who were apparently loaded with assets have switched places?

The Lakers are now in talks with the Kings to acquire a top 3 big man in the NBA while the Suns haven't been linked to Cousins in any shape or form.

So I guess the Lakers assets are worth more than the Suns assets?

Its gonna be disgusting to see the Lakers rebuild or retool much faster than the Suns.

If these reports are true than I can see the Kings jumping all over D'Angelo Russel if the Lakers are willing to give him up to make a splash. Ranadive has finally accepted the reality of the situation and sidelined Vlade by allowed Cousins's agent to begin negotiating a trade with LAL. So it could already be in the works. This probably means that assuming Love stays in Cleveland LMA will be the only premiere PF on the market and he seems Texas bound. Lol LMA is open to signing with Toronto but not us. And Monroe is likely headed to the Knicks. Yeah we have no shot at upgrading through FA

So? Boo effing hoo!!

I like our t PGs, our future SG, Warren and Len. Guys with much potential, let them develop into a star/s, and get a PF later. It's not the end of the world, if we don't get one. Who was the Warriors all world PF and Center and SF for that matter? Curry and his side kick was all it took with a bunch of players who knew their roles.

The Suns can still improve their team - balance out the roster. Granted, for me, it doesn't start with Free Agency or Bledsoe - its starts with trading the Morris twins.

But as for Bledsoe - Sacramento doesn't have squat. Granted you can get the numbers to match: Bledsoe + Morris twins for Colleson, STauskus Thompson, Landry and a pick or whatever. I want no part of Gay. NO PART. But not enamored with that.

I think I still try to move the Morris twins -get some cap space. And go about taking on David Lee and signing Demarre Carroll or Danny Green. Rebalancing the rster.

[RaisingArizona]

Guys we are not trading WCS and if we give up Gay Landry has to be attached no and ifs or buts about it.

Gay/Stauskas/landry for Bledsoe/Tucker


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[thamadkant]

Bucks have interest on Bledsoe, Kidd probably realizes that MCW is not the next "him". Bledsoe in the other hand can fill up the stat sheet and play defense, much closer to Kidd... the court vision/decision making is obviously missing and the most important aspect.... unless he prefers Rubio.

[AtheJ415]

This reminds me of last year when Houston had a 1000 page thread discussing how us trading Goran to them was inevitable, and we had to take their steaming pile of awful players in return. Or Bledsoe to Milwaukee for awful player X and rookie contract Y.


Of course the Suns aren't committed to the 2 PG lineup. They just stumbled into having 2 PGs unintentionally. Some intern accidentally typed a 7 instead of a 6, so McDonough though Brandon Knight was actually a 7'3" big man. Now that he knows Brandon Knight is a 6'3" PG and so is Bledsoe, and realize that they've accidentally paid them $70 million each, of course they're looking to trade them for other teams' bad contracts attached to old players. Hell, any first round draft pick should be enough. McDonough is just THAT stupid.

Sincerely,

All Kings, Lakers, Rockets, and Bucks fans that will inevitably come over here restricting their good young players, believing trash is all we deserve for Bledsoe or Knight.

[rsavaj]

Bucks have interest on Bledsoe, Kidd probably realizes that MCW is not the next "him". Bledsoe in the other hand can fill up the stat sheet and play defense, much closer to Kidd... the court vision/decision making is obviously missing and the most important aspect.... unless he prefers Rubio.

Bledsoe for Middleton SandT?

[City of Trees]

This reminds me of last year when Houston had a 1000 page thread discussing how us trading Goran to them was inevitable, and we had to take their steaming pile of awful players in return. Or Bledsoe to Milwaukee for awful player X and rookie contract Y.


Of course the Suns aren't committed to the 2 PG lineup. They just stumbled into having 2 PGs unintentionally. Some intern accidentally typed a 7 instead of a 6, so McDonough though Brandon Knight was actually a 7'3" big man. Now that he knows Brandon Knight is a 6'3" PG and so is Bledsoe, and realize that they've accidentally paid them $70 million each, of course they're looking to trade them for other teams' bad contracts attached to old players. Hell, any first round draft pick should be enough. McDonough is just THAT stupid.

Sincerely,

All Kings, Lakers, Rockets, and Bucks fans that will inevitably come over here restricting their good young players, believing trash is all we deserve for Bledsoe or Knight.

Happens to each team. Kings and Bucks won't believe their trash will get you Bledsoe, but we will ask.... Lakers and Rockets on the other hand will tell you which bad players you're taking and why you have no choice in the matter.

Sincerely,

Small market fans being categorized with Big market fan arrogance

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[bwgood77]

Bucks have interest on Bledsoe, Kidd probably realizes that MCW is not the next "him". Bledsoe in the other hand can fill up the stat sheet and play defense, much closer to Kidd... the court vision/decision making is obviously missing and the most important aspect.... unless he prefers Rubio.

Bledsoe for Middleton SandT?

That's funny. Last offseason I was mentioning Bledsoe for Knight, Middleton and a pick, and no one wanted to do that. Bucks fans said pick would have to be lotto protected. Now it's come down to just Middleton? I've gotta think he's worth more than that. Add a pick maybe.

[Revived]

Guys we are not trading WCS and if we give up Gay Landry has to be attached no and ifs or buts about it.

Gay/Stauskas/landry for Bledsoe/Tucker


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I hope that's a joke. No we don't want Rudy Gay, your gonna have to give up an asset to dump him. Only the Kings were stupid enough to give him that ridiculous contract extension.

I wouldn't do that deal if it was for my poop instead of Bledsoe and Tucker. I value my poop more highly than I do Gay/Staukas/Landry.

[rsavaj]

Bucks have interest on Bledsoe, Kidd probably realizes that MCW is not the next "him". Bledsoe in the other hand can fill up the stat sheet and play defense, much closer to Kidd... the court vision/decision making is obviously missing and the most important aspect.... unless he prefers Rubio.

Bledsoe for Middleton SandT?

That's funny. Last offseason I was mentioning Bledsoe for Knight, Middleton and a pick, and no one wanted to do that. Bucks fans said pick would have to be lotto protected. Now it's come down to just Middleton? I've gotta think he's worth more than that. Add a pick maybe.

I agree, MIL would need to add more value. Just not sure what they'd be okay giving up.

You know who would be nice to have back in that deal? Tyler Ennis! Solves our backup PG problem straight-away.

[bwgood77]

This reminds me of last year when Houston had a 1000 page thread discussing how us trading Goran to them was inevitable, and we had to take their steaming pile of awful players in return. Or Bledsoe to Milwaukee for awful player X and rookie contract Y.


Of course the Suns aren't committed to the 2 PG lineup. They just stumbled into having 2 PGs unintentionally. Some intern accidentally typed a 7 instead of a 6, so McDonough though Brandon Knight was actually a 7'3" big man. Now that he knows Brandon Knight is a 6'3" PG and so is Bledsoe, and realize that they've accidentally paid them $70 million each, of course they're looking to trade them for other teams' bad contracts attached to old players. Hell, any first round draft pick should be enough. McDonough is just THAT stupid.

Sincerely,

All Kings, Lakers, Rockets, and Bucks fans that will inevitably come over here restricting their good young players, believing trash is all we deserve for Bledsoe or Knight.

Happens to each team. Kings and Bucks won't believe their trash will get you Bledsoe, but we will ask.... Lakers and Rockets on the other hand will tell you which bad players you're taking and why you have no choice in the matter.

Sincerely,

Small market fans being categorized with Big market fan arrogance

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I don't think the Suns really want to trade Bledsoe. If they do it would probably be for Porzingis and Calderon. As for the Kings, I can't really see a deal worth doing. I don't think you'd want to give up WCS and personally I hoped he didn't slide to us and I wouldn't really want him. Next to Cousins he would be fine. And he could back up Len, but we really need guys who can shoot. Stauskas, Landry or Thompson and an unprotected pick might do it, but only if we were desperately wanting to dump him, and I don't think that's the case. Stauskas wasn't good, but most rookies are not, and I think McD liked him last year in the draft. I don't think he liked McLemore much. Landry would be a good vet...we want vets for our young players.

[Cutter]

Funny, Knight and Middleton in the backcourt didn't work in Milwaukee, yet we would recreate the exact same backcourt here in Phoenix. I don't think backcourt problems was what caused Knight to be moved. I have however read that Bucks moved Knight so they could sign Middleton to a large contract.

[bwgood77]

Guys we are not trading WCS and if we give up Gay Landry has to be attached no and ifs or buts about it.

Gay/Stauskas/landry for Bledsoe/Tucker


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I hope that's a joke. No we don't want Rudy Gay, your gonna have to give up an asset to dump him. Only the Kings were stupid enough to give him that ridiculous contract extension.

I wouldn't do that deal if it was for my poop instead of Bledsoe and Tucker. I value my poop more highly than I do Gay/Staukas/Landry.

Yes, no on Gay....McD wants to clear cap space...that's why the two trades I mentioned would help do that. The Knicks one is obviously better. I don't think they want to trade Bledsoe just to trade him though....that's the only way they'd do the Kings one I mentioned.

[City of Trees]

This reminds me of last year when Houston had a 1000 page thread discussing how us trading Goran to them was inevitable, and we had to take their steaming pile of awful players in return. Or Bledsoe to Milwaukee for awful player X and rookie contract Y.


Of course the Suns aren't committed to the 2 PG lineup. They just stumbled into having 2 PGs unintentionally. Some intern accidentally typed a 7 instead of a 6, so McDonough though Brandon Knight was actually a 7'3" big man. Now that he knows Brandon Knight is a 6'3" PG and so is Bledsoe, and realize that they've accidentally paid them $70 million each, of course they're looking to trade them for other teams' bad contracts attached to old players. Hell, any first round draft pick should be enough. McDonough is just THAT stupid.

Sincerely,

All Kings, Lakers, Rockets, and Bucks fans that will inevitably come over here restricting their good young players, believing trash is all we deserve for Bledsoe or Knight.

Happens to each team. Kings and Bucks won't believe their trash will get you Bledsoe, but we will ask.... Lakers and Rockets on the other hand will tell you which bad players you're taking and why you have no choice in the matter.

Sincerely,

Small market fans being categorized with Big market fan arrogance

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I don't think the Suns really want to trade Bledsoe. If they do it would probably be for Porzingis and Calderon. As for the Kings, I can't really see a deal worth doing. I don't think you'd want to give up WCS and personally I hoped he didn't slide to us and I wouldn't really want him. Next to Cousins he would be fine. And he could back up Len, but we really need guys who can shoot. Stauskas, Landry or Thompson and an unprotected pick might do it, but only if we were desperately wanting to dump him, and I don't think that's the case. Stauskas wasn't good, but most rookies are not, and I think McD liked him last year in the draft. I don't think he liked McLemore much. Landry would be a good vet...we want vets for our young players.

I don't see how Landry and Thompson could be involved in a trade for Bledsoe. I think it will be very tough for the Kings to get Bledsoe unless your GM likes Gay... You guys know how this stuff goes, rumors hit the wire and everyone goes to that team to get the info. Today was your day with Bledsoe. Last week was Kings with Cousins. Tomorrow who knows....

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[WeekapaugGroove]

To be fair I think fans from every board including this one tend to over value their own assets and feel they can rob other teams in trades. I guess it's the fun of being a "reagm"

Who's reporting the bucks have interest?

[saintEscaton]

[saintEscaton]

Happens to each team. Kings and Bucks won't believe their trash will get you Bledsoe, but we will ask.... Lakers and Rockets on the other hand will tell you which bad players you're taking and why you have no choice in the matter.

Sincerely,

Small market fans being categorized with Big market fan arrogance

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I don't think the Suns really want to trade Bledsoe. If they do it would probably be for Porzingis and Calderon. As for the Kings, I can't really see a deal worth doing. I don't think you'd want to give up WCS and personally I hoped he didn't slide to us and I wouldn't really want him. Next to Cousins he would be fine. And he could back up Len, but we really need guys who can shoot. Stauskas, Landry or Thompson and an unprotected pick might do it, but only if we were desperately wanting to dump him, and I don't think that's the case. Stauskas wasn't good, but most rookies are not, and I think McD liked him last year in the draft. I don't think he liked McLemore much. Landry would be a good vet...we want vets for our young players.

I don't see how Landry and Thompson could be involved in a trade for Bledsoe. I think it will be very tough for the Kings to get Bledsoe unless your GM likes Gay... You guys know how this stuff goes, rumors hit the wire and everyone goes to that team to get the info. Today was your day with Bledsoe. Last week was Kings with Cousins. Tomorrow who knows....

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You brought up good points and I agree that its improbable. Sorry if we come off as defensive lol. We just don't wanna lose Bled for nothing

[rsavaj]

Funny, Knight and Middleton in the backcourt didn't work in Milwaukee, yet we would recreate the exact same backcourt here in Phoenix. I don't think backcourt problems was what caused Knight to be moved. I have however read that Bucks moved Knight so they could sign Middleton to a large contract.

Knight and Middleton seemed to be working pretty well this season when they were leading MIL to a decent playoff berth before the trade.

I don't want to trade Bledsoe, but this is me just putting my "silly rosterbation" hat on: Bledsoe/Tucker/Bullock for Middleton/Carter-Williams/Ennis

MCW/Ennis
Knight/Goodwin/Booker
Middleton/Warren/Granger
Marcus(for spacing)/Markieff/Leuer
Len/Wright/STAT?

Fully okay with you guys calling it a stupid idea, because it is, but my brief spiel in defense of it would be that it balances out the roster. MCW and Knight make for a young(both 23), defensive-minded backcourt. MCW can't shoot worth a lick but he's a good passer. Middleton would give us the true scoring wing we've been missing, and he's a good defender too. We get Ennis back to be our backup PG to run the 2nd unit.

Young, good on defense, good on offense, still a lot of cap room/trade assets...I don't think it's the worst idea I've ever come up with.