The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason

[Damkac]

Sorry but I don't see Knight giving us Simmons/Ingram or Chandler giving us 6th pick

[Walt_Uoob]

Sorry but I don't see Knight giving us Simmons/Ingram or Chandler giving us 6th pick

Fair enough. But I do think something along those lines could work. For example, swap in Bledsoe for Knight in the first deal and add #12 to the second (and/or take back Asik's contract, which we'd probably have to do anyway)? Keeping Knight and losing Bledsoe would be more palatable if we're getting Dunn too.

[Damkac]

Another episode from my "Get that Boston's pick while uniting Mini-Bron with Big Bron" series This episode's gues star: Utah Jazz
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=grpm3ma
Suns gets Nets pick
Cavs build defensive team around Bron
Celtics gets Love
Jazz gets star pg

Not sure if values are equal. Maybe some more parts needs to be moved?

[Walt_Uoob]

Another episode from my "Get that Boston's pick while uniting Mini-Bron with Big Bron" series This episode's gues star: Utah Jazz
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=grpm3ma
Suns gets Nets pick
Cavs build defensive team around Bron
Celtics gets Love
Jazz gets star pg

Not sure if values are equal. Maybe some more parts needs to be moved?

Love it! Not sure who says no, except the Jazz might need some additional encouragement since it's easier to find a PG than a PF these days. We could throw in a little more I would think. If it's a #1 or #2 pick, we could send another pick/asset each (like WAS or CLE pick, Goodwin, etc.) to Boston and Utah and it would still be a solid deal for us IMO.

[MathiasPW]

Usually not the biggest fan of rosterbation, but this one, although unlikely because it has too many participants putting a lot at stake (imagine the amount of negotiations), makes sense for most. Specially cause there will be good defensive PFs where Utah is picking this year, and they have Lyles, too.

I'd be scared of Cleveland in this scenario

[King4Day]

Another episode from my "Get that Boston's pick while uniting Mini-Bron with Big Bron" series This episode's gues star: Utah Jazz
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=grpm3ma
Suns gets Nets pick
Cavs build defensive team around Bron
Celtics gets Love
Jazz gets star pg

Not sure if values are equal. Maybe some more parts needs to be moved?

I think the biggest issue for Cleveland is that they would lose a ton of shooting/scoring in that move.

Naturally I'd do it in a heartbeat but I think some changes would need to take place to better balance Cleveland's return.

[letsgosuns]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241370/celtics-low-balled-cavs-on-kevin-love-offer-at-deadline

I doubt the Celtics are willing to give up the Nets pick in any trade for Love. I think they would aim higher than him and go for a player like Griffin who is a true superstar rather than Love who is a complementary player.

I also think the Suns should stay away from Love under any circumstances. They will not go anywhere with him. The guy was a stat padder on the Timberwolves and never took that team anywhere. True superstars can take a bad team and sneak them into the playoffs if they are truly superstars. Something like what Kobe did in 2006-07. Those Lakers teams were so terrible and yet they made the playoffs with guys like Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, and Luke Walton. You put those kinds of players around Love and they are going for the number one draft pick. You put those players around a prime Kobe and he makes the playoffs with him. That is the difference between a true MVP caliber player and a guy like Love.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241370/celtics-low-balled-cavs-on-kevin-love-offer-at-deadline

I doubt the Celtics are willing to give up the Nets pick in any trade for Love. I think they would aim higher than him and go for a player like Griffin who is a true superstar rather than Love who is a complementary player.

I also think the Suns should stay away from Love under any circumstances. They will not go anywhere with him. The guy was a stat padder on the Timberwolves and never took that team anywhere. True superstars can take a bad team and sneak them into the playoffs if they are truly superstars. Something like what Kobe did in 2006-07. Those Lakers teams were so terrible and yet they made the playoffs with guys like Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, and Luke Walton. You put those kinds of players around Love and they are going for the number one draft pick. You put those players around a prime Kobe and he makes the playoffs with him. That is the difference between a true MVP caliber player and a guy like Love.

Agree that Love is probably not worth the Nets pick. But I don't agree that the Suns won't or shouldn't go after him. Depends on the price. McD might see Love as a "buy low" opportunity. If the price is Knight and the #12 - well, that's not exactly the end of the world. A year or two on a winning team can do wonders for a player's value. We should rightly be concerned about fit, because Bled/Booker/Warren/Love/Len is not exactly a defensive juggernaut. But that's a lot of talent on paper, and I wouldn't put it past McD to take that deal if he has the chance.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Double post.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Triple post.

[Saberestar]

Not many roster spots on our team next season if we add two rookies (around #3 and #13), Bogdan Bogdanovic and bring back Teletovic.

If we do not trade Knight, Chandler or Tucker ( and it seems that they are going to be here next season, all three under contract) our roster is loaded...

Bledsoe/Knight
Booker/Bogdanovic
Warren/Tucker
#3/Teletovic
Len/Chandler

That is teen deep and we have #13 from Washington and Goodwin if he is not traded too.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Quadruple post. Yeesh.

[Qwigglez]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241370/celtics-low-balled-cavs-on-kevin-love-offer-at-deadline

I doubt the Celtics are willing to give up the Nets pick in any trade for Love. I think they would aim higher than him and go for a player like Griffin who is a true superstar rather than Love who is a complementary player.

I also think the Suns should stay away from Love under any circumstances. They will not go anywhere with him. The guy was a stat padder on the Timberwolves and never took that team anywhere. True superstars can take a bad team and sneak them into the playoffs if they are truly superstars. Something like what Kobe did in 2006-07. Those Lakers teams were so terrible and yet they made the playoffs with guys like Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, and Luke Walton. You put those kinds of players around Love and they are going for the number one draft pick. You put those players around a prime Kobe and he makes the playoffs with him. That is the difference between a true MVP caliber player and a guy like Love.

Agree that Love is probably not worth the Nets pick. But I don't agree that the Suns won't or shouldn't go after him. Depends on the price. McD might see Love as a "buy low" opportunity. If the price is Knight and the #12 - well, that's not exactly the end of the world. A year or two on a winning team can do wonders for a player's value. We should rightly be concerned about fit, because Bled/Booker/Warren/Love/Len is not exactly a defensive juggernaut. But that's a lot of talent on paper, and I wouldn't put it past McD to take that deal if he has the chance.

Love actually got the Wolves close to the playoffs though. In 2013-14 they finished 40-42. The West was also very strong in 2013/14 as opposed to 2006-07. I'd say Love is definitely worth a high lottery pick (not top 2) and would trade for him simply because I don't see any franchise players after Simmons/Ingram. PF's are hard to come by in this league, and I think Love is still a top 5 player at that position.

[alphagorilla]

Do you guys think Anthony Davis is happy with his situation in NO? lets say we offered them Len,Knight,Goodwin and all three picks would they consider it. Getting a guy like that would help us getting a good FA in the future. Bledsoe,Booker,Warren,Davis,Chandler would be interesting.

[Saberestar]

Do you guys think Anthony Davis is happy with his situation in NO? lets say we offered them Len,Knight,Goodwin and all three picks would they consider it. Getting a guy like that would help us getting a good FA in the future. Bledsoe,Booker,Warren,Davis,Chandler would be interesting.

Anthony Davis?? Untouchable.Period.

[Qwigglez]

Do you guys think Anthony Davis is happy with his situation in NO? lets say we offered them Len,Knight,Goodwin and all three picks would they consider it. Getting a guy like that would help us getting a good FA in the future. Bledsoe,Booker,Warren,Davis,Chandler would be interesting.

Anthony Davis?? Untouchable.Period.

2nd most untouchable player behind KAT-man.

[alphagorilla]

Do you guys think Anthony Davis is happy with his situation in NO? lets say we offered them Len,Knight,Goodwin and all three picks would they consider it. Getting a guy like that would help us getting a good FA in the future. Bledsoe,Booker,Warren,Davis,Chandler would be interesting.

Anthony Davis?? Untouchable.Period.

2nd most untouchable player behind KAT-man.

Yeah I get that, just have a feeling that they aren't doing the best job building a roster around him.

[bwgood77]

Anthony Davis?? Untouchable.Period.

2nd most untouchable player behind KAT-man.

Yeah I get that, just have a feeling that they aren't doing the best job building a roster around him.

Doesn't really matter if he's happy right now. They control his rights and will try to make him happy until they approach a time where they could potentiall lose him for nothing. That's not until around 2020 that they would start worrying about that.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_orleans_pelicans/

We could look at Tyreke or Holiday as possibly guys they might be afraid of losing after next season and try to offer up Knight for one of them.

[bwgood77]

Not many roster spots on our team next season if we add two rookies (around #3 and #13), Bogdan Bogdanovic and bring back Teletovic.

If we do not trade Knight, Chandler or Tucker ( and it seems that they are going to be here next season, all three under contract) our roster is loaded...

Bledsoe/Knight
Booker/Bogdanovic
Warren/Tucker
#3/Teletovic
Len/Chandler

That is teen deep and we have #13 from Washington and Goodwin if he is not traded too.

Dirt cheap team options on John Jenkins too for next two years (about $1 million a year). Unless we find 15 players deep who are clearly better or with more potential I would exercise that. He's worth that much money as an end of bench guy. Definitely rather keep than Goodwin. He's shooting 48% from 3 this year for us. Limited time, but that's 18 games in extremely limited minutes, but more than 2 1/2 shots per game and 23 for 48.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/phoenix_suns/

[rsavaj]

lol the only player AD is moved for is KAT.