2020 Season/Offseason (FA/Trade) Speculation - the Season Resumes

[nevetsov]

Bradley Beal wants to be traded.. and don’t be surprise if PHX is a trade destination he wants .. I’m not saying he’s going to be a Suns but he’s low key loving what the suns are doing

Good to see you again Ray Ray!

[nevetsov]

Assuming we bring back basically everyone, what are the lineups/combos we should NOT look forward to?

Anything featuring Point Book.

[lilfishi22]

Bradley Beal wants to be traded.. and don’t be surprise if PHX is a trade destination he wants .. I’m not saying he’s going to be a Suns but he’s low key loving what the suns are doing

I've pipe-dreamed Beal on this team next to Booker for years and honestly, even with the $30m+ salary, defensive reputation and his recent trigger happy seasons, I would still want him on this team.

I do believe he's a better defender than what he's shown the past year or two but I acknowledge that a Book/Beal backcourt will never be good defensively. For me, I feel like Beal has picked up poor habits but I think it's largely because of the dysfunction in Washington and the lack treadmill nature of that team. A change in scenery could be exactly what he needs.

I think Booker and Beal would work much better than Beal and Wall because they should have more complementary skills like shooting, scoring and passing within the framework of an offense. Wall has always had the tendency to control an entire possession until he's able to find an assist and that doesn't sit well without a guy who also like to handle the ball. The reason why I think Booker and Beal would work differently is because both guys can play off each other whereas Wall has never really played well off Beal when Wall was healthy and considered the go-to on that team.

[matt131]

Bradley Beal wants to be traded.. and don’t be surprise if PHX is a trade destination he wants .. I’m not saying he’s going to be a Suns but he’s low key loving what the suns are doing

You know what Beal is thinking?

[sunskerr]

Oof I’d love to get Beal but at the same time I would feel so bad for Ricky. I was disappointed with the Rubio signing but the guy has been actually really, legitimately a great player for us. He’s easily been our 2nd best player on the year and just had the best season of his career.

It’s great to hear there’s a big name interested in our team, though. He and book would be lethal offensively, although we’d have to hope he and book were both only bad (they were actually very bad defenders) at defense because of their offensive loads.

[cberry78]

Oof I’d love to get Beal but at the same time I would feel so bad for Ricky. I was disappointed with the Rubio signing but the guy has been actually really, legitimately a great player for us. He’s easily been our 2nd best player on the year and just had the best season of his career.

It’s great to hear there’s a big name interested in our team, though. He and book would be lethal offensively, although we’d have to hope he and book were both only bad (they were actually very bad defenders) at defense because of their offensive loads.

Totally agree with all of this. And if we get Beal then he has to play at PG, he's only 6'3, that means that Rubio's gone, and that means that we'll get more Point-Book.

Personally I think the importance of a pass-first PG (Rubio) is going to benefit the team more than 2 Point-B's.

[King4Day]

Renouncing some rights, Oubre to a team for TPE and a pick.....ANTHONY DAVIS!!!! I'm gonna go shower!!!

This is why we need LAL to get bounced before the finals. The earlier the better.
Outside of living in LA, why would he want to stay on an aging team long term?
If Phoenix landed him, you trade Ayton and your first for pieces that fit better.

Ayton would be a huge draw for AD. AD doesn't want to start at center. So us having a long-term lock at 5 I think would give AD some additional peace of mind.

Haven't thought of it that way. Not sure I trust Ayton right now to pair with a stretch 4. Ayton hasn't learn how to post up yet and if he's going to settle for the turnaround jumper all the time, he won't pull in the defense.

[sunskerr]

Point book isn’t necessarily a bad thing at all. Book is our point guard on sets when Rubio doesn’t start the play, and often when Rubio is also on the bench. It’s the pressure that Rubio takes off Booker to be the primary playmaker creating for others that helps Booker. Booker still averaged over 6 assists with Rubio which suggests he’s still a very good playmaker.

Maybe Beal would still have the same effect. We would just have less shots for other players but that’s also not necessarily bad either because we know Beal is an insane scorer.

Defense is the main concern with Beal and Booker.

[matt131]

Point book isn’t necessarily a bad thing at all. Book is our point guard on sets when Rubio doesn’t start the play, and often when Rubio is also on the bench. It’s the pressure that Rubio takes off Booker to be the primary playmaker creating for others that helps Booker. Booker still averaged over 6 assists with Rubio which suggests he’s still a very good playmaker.

Maybe Beal would still have the same effect. We would just have less shots for other players but that’s also not necessarily bad either because we know Beal is an insane scorer.

Defense is the main concern with Beal and Booker.

If this has any possibility of happening at all, what's the deal that we put together? Would everyone be okay with giving up Mikal and one or two first round picks?

Not sure Beal will be an easily obtainable target. I think the Wizards have said they really believe in Wall returning successfully from injury and want to see what he and Beal can do together.

[Mjee]

I’m all on for getting an all star to pair with book ... even if it’s Beal !!! Gotta get this team over the hump

[sunskerr]

Point book isn’t necessarily a bad thing at all. Book is our point guard on sets when Rubio doesn’t start the play, and often when Rubio is also on the bench. It’s the pressure that Rubio takes off Booker to be the primary playmaker creating for others that helps Booker. Booker still averaged over 6 assists with Rubio which suggests he’s still a very good playmaker.

Maybe Beal would still have the same effect. We would just have less shots for other players but that’s also not necessarily bad either because we know Beal is an insane scorer.

Defense is the main concern with Beal and Booker.

If this has any possibility of happening at all, what's the deal that we put together? Would everyone be okay with giving up Mikal and one or two first round picks?

Not sure Beal will be an easily obtainable target. I think the Wizards have said they really believe in Wall returning successfully from injury and want to see what he and Beal can do together.

I’m not good at hypothetical trades but I doubt that even approaches beals value

[Jdiddy701]

Bradley Beal wants to be traded.. and don’t be surprise if PHX is a trade destination he wants .. I’m not saying he’s going to be a Suns but he’s low key loving what the suns are doing

Pretty obvious if you look at his Twitter account that he loves what the Suns are doing. I just don’t see a trade that Washington would accept. Also, the entire league loves what the Suns are doing so not really breaking news to me. Thank goodness for Monty Williams.


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[cberry78]

Point book isn’t necessarily a bad thing at all. Book is our point guard on sets when Rubio doesn’t start the play, and often when Rubio is also on the bench. It’s the pressure that Rubio takes off Booker to be the primary playmaker creating for others that helps Booker. Booker still averaged over 6 assists with Rubio which suggests he’s still a very good playmaker.

Maybe Beal would still have the same effect. We would just have less shots for other players but that’s also not necessarily bad either because we know Beal is an insane scorer.

Defense is the main concern with Beal and Booker.

Point Book was more directed at the portion of this board who are staunchly against the idea. I feel that he's underrated as a passer/playmaker and that he would actually be among the best in the league at it if he was given the role full time....I just don't know whether or not if we add Beal that the B Boys™ would be able to replicate what's going on in Houston with Harden and Westbrook - and I'm pretty sure that's what they would have to be to coexist successfully.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Keeping our core together ASIDE FROM maybe Kaminsky/ Okobo / and maybe Jerome. The 3 trades that I want our front office to consider with our 10th pick are:

1- Phoenix/ Brooklyn:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y2k47l9h
Oubre/ Jerome/ 10th pick for Dinwiddie/ Thomas/ Claxton and the 19th pick. **Dinwiddie is an expiring contract that can be brought back on a 1 yr deal. And Thomas ( 38% from three) expires in 2021, Giving us even more cap space for 2021 free agency. Really, I'm doing this trade to acquire Nik Claxton! He's 6'11 with a 7'3 wingspan and is very mobile and energetic and has immense potential too. Check out his draft profile here: Look at how fast, Fluid and long he is! And how he contests shots.

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he's a great rim protector and switchable defender.

19- Draft Pokusevski ( He'll initially be an oversized 3-5 Switchable utility two way wing / facilitator). He'll develop behind Bridges and Thomas. Claxton will replace Diallo/ Poku will replace Kaminsky/ Bring back Saric and Baynes ( 1 yr deals).

2- Phoenix/ Philly:
Phoenix trades the 10th pick/ Ty Jerome for Richardson/* Broekhoff */ 21st/ 36th picks.

21- Precious Achiuwa or Paul Reed ( backup 3/4/5).
36- Daniel Oturu or Vernon Carey ( backup 5).
- Richardson becomes our backup guard.
- Broekhoff replaces Jerome.
- Payne replaces Okobo.
- Achiuwa or Reed replaces Kaminsky.
- Oturu or Carey replaces Baynes.
Bring back Saric ( Bench 4), Start Cam at the 4.

3- Phoenix/ Detroit:
The 10th pick for Luke Kennard.
Then look to move Oubre to Orlando for Gordon. I'd trade for Gordon to have him be in a specialized defensive role as an uber athletic oversized 3/4. Next, I'd look to purchase a 2nd round pick for Daniel Oturu or Vernon Carey. and a mid to late 2nd for Killian Tillie. I bring back Saric and Baynes ( 1 yr deals). Now I have a lineup of:

- Booker/ Rubio/ Payne.
- Bridges / Kennard/ Carter .
- Gordon/ Bridges/ Cam.
- Cam/ Saric/ Tillie.
- Ayton/ Baynes / Gordon.
** Jerome/ Lecque ( G league).

[sunskerr]

Point book isn’t necessarily a bad thing at all. Book is our point guard on sets when Rubio doesn’t start the play, and often when Rubio is also on the bench. It’s the pressure that Rubio takes off Booker to be the primary playmaker creating for others that helps Booker. Booker still averaged over 6 assists with Rubio which suggests he’s still a very good playmaker.

Maybe Beal would still have the same effect. We would just have less shots for other players but that’s also not necessarily bad either because we know Beal is an insane scorer.

Defense is the main concern with Beal and Booker.

Point Book was more directed at the portion of this board who are staunchly against the idea. I feel that he's underrated as a passer/playmaker and that he would actually be among the best in the league at it if he was given the role full time....I just don't know whether or not if we add Beal that the B Boys™ would be able to replicate what's going on in Houston with Harden and Westbrook - and I'm pretty sure that's what they would have to be to coexist successfully.

Yeah, I don't think thrusting Booker in the Harden role is a good idea. Harden has vision comparable to Nash and Rubio, while being an all time great scorer. He really is a one of a kind offensive machine.

I think the idea with Beal would be that since they both average 6 assists (and they are both good playmakers), they'd get a similar split of running the playmaking duties within Monty's passing offense. I'm fairly sure Monty's offense would work with both of them as it already works with Rubio and Booker. There wouldn't be a need to replicate Houston. Two things that would be great about Beal would be the shooting he brings, and it would also solve the issue of us needing a second shot creator. This might be a better offense than the Rubio/Booker back court.

It's again the defense that worries me. Rubio has been very good on that end in addition to fitting perfectly with Booker on offense. An alternative is to try and play Rubio/Beal/Booker, which seems very difficult to work out. But they are all very willing passers so I don't think getting them to buy into a system would be an issue. But then again that seems to be approaching Thomas/Bledsoe/Goran levels of back court involvement.

This is just such a difficult topic to think about. It's fascinating but difficult.

[bigfoot]

Okay ... don't forget our defense was top 3 in the bubble. Rubio is a good defender. Adding Beal and subtracting Rubio is negative in my mind. Also, almost any trade where Bridges is an outgoing player is a hard no.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Matt George (@MattGeorgeKHTK) Tweeted:
James Ham predicts the Kings won't pick up Nemanja Bjelica's $7.15M contract this offseason.

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Should we have interest in Bjelica once he gets released and becomes available? I mean basically, he's the slightly better floor spacing/ 3pt shooting version of Saric. He's shot close to 40% from three for his career. And I believe that we could get him for the midlevel exception easily enough. Here's his comparison to Saric:
https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Nemanja+Bjelica&player_id1_select=Nemanja+Bjelica&player_id1=bjeline01&idx=bbr__players&p1yrfrom=2020&player_id2_hint=Dario+%C5%A0ari%C4%87&player_id2_select=Dario+%C5%A0ari%C4%87&player_id2=saricda01&idx=bbr__players&p2yrfrom=2020

If we lose Saric to another team or to a starting role on a different team, He'd be really intriguing option to provide the floor spacing that Saric and Kaminsky apparently couldn't provide.

And how would a potential bench frontcourt with Bjelica at the 4, And Saric at the 5 look possibly? Would the defense be too terrible to consider it? Would the floor spacing be much improved?

[Blonde]

I would think if you add Beal then you just move Rubio to the bench and still play him 28ish minutes per game similar to what he was playing in the bubble. We need guard depth. With how great Booker and Rubio play together it seems like Beal and Rubio would also play great together. And 3 guard lineups with Rubio-Beal-Booker would be a hell of a lot better than the 3 guard lineups we used last year. I think we instantly become a top 3 offense if we have those guys in the backcourt.

It’s easy to start putting a package together if you want to include Ayton or Bridges, a lot harder without them. Jumping up in the lottery on thursday would be a big help.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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I like Bjelica a lot. Especially as a potential Kaminsky replacement. Maybe even Saric replacement if he costs too much to keep.