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Re: Around the NBA - 2020-21 - Rookie Watch and other Highlight Performances 

Post#721 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:12 pm

Bertans paid too much and I think Beal makes more than Booker anyway. This team would never trade Booker, for better or worse.

I seriously doubt Oubre has woman problems. He may be traded to the Pelicans. I bet he'd like it better there...he seems to like to be around young guys...would like being with Zion and Ingram and Hayes. Maybe GS trades him for Redick...that would definitely be a great trade for GS..perfect fit to play a Klay type role and take less pressure off Curry. Wiggins playing well too. That would really solidify their lineup, particularly at the guard spots, but Green also more effective than people think with his defense and passing.
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Post#722 » by sasquatchBob » Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:28 pm

Wilber85 wrote:Beal and Bertrans for Booker.


I think Beal's value is higher than Booker's. Also salary wise I don't think it works.
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Re: Around the NBA - 2020-21 - Rookie Watch and other Highlight Performances 

Post#723 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:53 pm

Fo-Real wrote:Kelly looks out of sorts in Golden state!! I dont know if they jive with his play style or if he is just unhappy but just the look on his face seems like his zeal for the game and fun play style is gone. I hear he is having major woman problems so maybe that is contributing, but he seems a shell of the bouncy happy go lucky dude who was here!!

Woman problems? I thought he just got engaged less than 2mths ago
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Re: Around the NBA - 2020-21 - Rookie Watch and other Highlight Performances 

Post#724 » by sasquatchBob » Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:57 am

What do you guys think about Darius Garland? He's a player that I would really like to see on Suns. High IQ player that allows offense to flow. He reminds me of Rubio but with higher upside.
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Post#725 » by sasquatchBob » Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:05 am

And by the way, Josh Jackson is bone-headed high IQ player.
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Post#726 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:20 am

sasquatchBob wrote:What do you guys think about Darius Garland? He's a player that I would really like to see on Suns. High IQ player that allows offense to flow. He reminds me of Rubio but with higher upside.


He hasn't done much yet and didn't play much in college, but despite the not playing in college, and already having Sexton, the Cavs took him in the top 5. I imagine they will be holding onto him for awhile...but even if he was on a trading block, I definitely would rather have Cam Johnson.
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Re: Around the NBA - 2020-21 - Rookie Watch and other Highlight Performances 

Post#727 » by sasquatchBob » Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:31 am

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sasquatchBob wrote:What do you guys think about Darius Garland? He's a player that I would really like to see on Suns. High IQ player that allows offense to flow. He reminds me of Rubio but with higher upside.


He hasn't done much yet and didn't play much in college, but despite the not playing in college, and already having Sexton, the Cavs took him in the top 5. I imagine they will be holding onto him for awhile...but even if he was on a trading block, I definitely would rather have Cam Johnson.


I love Cam but I disagree. Try watching Garland play, I think you'll change your mind. I'm not saying we have to trade for him right away but he's someone to keep an eye on.
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Post#728 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:43 am

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sasquatchBob wrote:What do you guys think about Darius Garland? He's a player that I would really like to see on Suns. High IQ player that allows offense to flow. He reminds me of Rubio but with higher upside.


He hasn't done much yet and didn't play much in college, but despite the not playing in college, and already having Sexton, the Cavs took him in the top 5. I imagine they will be holding onto him for awhile...but even if he was on a trading block, I definitely would rather have Cam Johnson.


I love Cam but I disagree. Try watching Garland play, I think you'll change your mind. I'm not saying we have to trade for him right away but he's someone to keep an eye on.


Maybe I'll watch him a bit, but his efficiency is awful...and he was supposed to be a shooter/scorer I thought. He does have a little better than a 2/1 ast/to ratio.

I'm not sure if you were thinking they might trade him because of Sexton but I don't think they would have drafted him if they didn't want to have them as their backcourt and hope for a Lillard/McCollum type combo.
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Re: Around the NBA - 2020-21 - Rookie Watch and other Highlight Performances 

Post#729 » by sasquatchBob » Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:53 am

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bwgood77 wrote:
He hasn't done much yet and didn't play much in college, but despite the not playing in college, and already having Sexton, the Cavs took him in the top 5. I imagine they will be holding onto him for awhile...but even if he was on a trading block, I definitely would rather have Cam Johnson.


I love Cam but I disagree. Try watching Garland play, I think you'll change your mind. I'm not saying we have to trade for him right away but he's someone to keep an eye on.


Maybe I'll watch him a bit, but his efficiency is awful...and he was supposed to be a shooter/scorer I thought. He does have a little better than a 2/1 ast/to ratio.

I'm not sure if you were thinking they might trade him because of Sexton but I don't think they would have drafted him if they didn't want to have them as their backcourt and hope for a Lillard/McCollum type combo.


The reason I think he might be available is that he's not that high of a profile young player and we have valuable assets on this team. At some point we have to find CP3 replacement.

Do you have any PG's that you have thought about that could take over after Paul?
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Post#730 » by sasquatchBob » Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:01 am

bwgood77 wrote:
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He hasn't done much yet and didn't play much in college, but despite the not playing in college, and already having Sexton, the Cavs took him in the top 5. I imagine they will be holding onto him for awhile...but even if he was on a trading block, I definitely would rather have Cam Johnson.


I love Cam but I disagree. Try watching Garland play, I think you'll change your mind. I'm not saying we have to trade for him right away but he's someone to keep an eye on.


Maybe I'll watch him a bit, but his efficiency is awful...and he was supposed to be a shooter/scorer I thought. He does have a little better than a 2/1 ast/to ratio.

I'm not sure if you were thinking they might trade him because of Sexton but I don't think they would have drafted him if they didn't want to have them as their backcourt and hope for a Lillard/McCollum type combo.


What you say about scoring is true but you can see potential. He's not the most athletic guy. Kind of reminds me of Jennings in way how he moves and how he's built. But smarter Jennings :D
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Post#731 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:08 am

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bwgood77 wrote:
sasquatchBob wrote:
I love Cam but I disagree. Try watching Garland play, I think you'll change your mind. I'm not saying we have to trade for him right away but he's someone to keep an eye on.


Maybe I'll watch him a bit, but his efficiency is awful...and he was supposed to be a shooter/scorer I thought. He does have a little better than a 2/1 ast/to ratio.

I'm not sure if you were thinking they might trade him because of Sexton but I don't think they would have drafted him if they didn't want to have them as their backcourt and hope for a Lillard/McCollum type combo.


The reason I think he might be available is that he's not that high of a profile young player and we have valuable assets on this team. At some point we have to find CP3 replacement.

Do you have any PG's that you have thought about that could take over after Paul?


Haven't given it much thought yet, but some should free up over the next couple years as teams tank and draft others, or we could draft one this year or we could even sign Rubio again in addition to drafting one. Payne is a possibility too if he keeps improving like he did to get to where he was in the bubble and at the start of the season...if he stays at that level and improves upon that, who knows? We probably need someone better, but it's a possibility.
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Post#732 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:09 am

With the season barely more than a month old, this is a premature look at the possible starters and reserves. Keep in mind that, because of games missed, it’s unfair to give Kyrie Irving and Ja Morant, for instance, much consideration right this very minute. By the middle of next month, provided they stay on the floor, that will change.

Each team will have two backcourt players and three front court players, plus a pair of wild cards among the reserves. These are the players currently holding pole position.

West starters

Nikola Jokic and Luka Doncic could add another All-Star selection to their resume.

LeBron James, Lakers. No suspense, no debate, no fuss here. LeBron in his 17th season remains among the very best, if he’s not the best. Some of the greats earned ceremonial All-Star spots as they aged. There will be none of that, at least for now, with LeBron.

Nikola Jokic, Nuggets. He’s still a triple-double threat and a certifiable problem for most teams. But for some reason, the Nuggets are off to a perplexing start. No worries, there’s plenty of time to change that; in the meantime, “The Joker” will be their lone All-Star rep.

Kawhi Leonard, Clippers. Not only is Kawhi off to a terrific start (25.9 points, 50.5% shooting), it appears the previous and controversial trend of “load management” is a thing of the past. Maybe the embarrassing way the Clippers exited the playoffs last season changed that approach.

Damian Lillard, Blazers. In the past, he always took exception to slights, whether real or imagined. Some folks gave Dame a hard time about it, but he’s a prideful player who demands respect. Well, he’s getting it here.

Luka Doncic, Mavericks. This hasn’t quite shaped up to be the Kia MVP campaign that Luka worshippers had hoped for (that 28.4% shooting from deep is problematic), yet it appears he’s in for another solid season, nearly averaging a triple-double.

West reserves

Is Zion Williamson on pace to earn his first All-Star selection?

Paul George, Clippers. Notice how the snickers have subsided since the bubble, when George didn’t exactly endear himself. Anyway, not only is he off to a strong start (almost 50-50-90), he evidently has put all the misery well behind him. While we wait to see what the playoffs bring, he deserves to be saluted now.

Stephen Curry, Warriors. You say he should start over Dame or Luka? Fine. It’s a close call either way, and there is no wrong or right answer. Anyway, the Warriors are simply thrilled that, after a virtual absence in 2019-20, Steph is still Steph.

Anthony Davis, Lakers. Imagine AD making second team in any scenario? It just shows how deep and strong the West front-line candidates are this season. Davis is probably still too busy staring at his championship ring to notice or care, anyway.

Zion Williamson, Pelicans. It’s his time and turn to make a star run, and this is made possible by the Pelicans’ decision to stop spoon-feeding him minutes. Now that he’s unleashed, Zion is a solid candidate to be an All-Star, even over his teammate, Brandon Ingram.

Rudy Gobert, Jazz. His offense remains a work in progress and his hands aren’t the softest, but Gobert obviously didn’t just earn a massive contract extension because of his post-up moves.

Donovan Mitchell, Jazz (wild card). His development into a star has gone hitch-free, especially now that his confidence and consistency with his shooting range (39.5% from deep on eight shots per game) is soaring. Mitchell represents all that’s right with basketball.

Devin Booker, Suns (wc). He should give an assist to Chris Paul for freeing him from constant playmaking responsibilities and allowing him to roam. That said, Booker’s spot on this All-Star team seems the most tenuous.

Still in play: De’Aaron Fox, Kings; Brandon Ingram, Pelicans; CJ McCollum, Blazers; Ja Morant, Grizzlies.


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Post#733 » by Fo-Real » Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:31 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:
Fo-Real wrote:Kelly looks out of sorts in Golden state!! I dont know if they jive with his play style or if he is just unhappy but just the look on his face seems like his zeal for the game and fun play style is gone. I hear he is having major woman problems so maybe that is contributing, but he seems a shell of the bouncy happy go lucky dude who was here!!

Woman problems? I thought he just got engaged less than 2mths ago


Yep, think its over and messy!
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Post#734 » by Bogyo » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:14 pm

Fo-Real wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
Fo-Real wrote:Kelly looks out of sorts in Golden state!! I dont know if they jive with his play style or if he is just unhappy but just the look on his face seems like his zeal for the game and fun play style is gone. I hear he is having major woman problems so maybe that is contributing, but he seems a shell of the bouncy happy go lucky dude who was here!!

Woman problems? I thought he just got engaged less than 2mths ago


Yep, think its over and messy!


Yeah, I think I saw something that his ex threatened/blackmailed him that she will destroy his public image through (social)media, and is not willint to move out of his house, and so on... all kinds of nasty stuff that can happen with famous and rich ppl and money grabbing hos.
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Post#735 » by Kerrsed » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:28 pm

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Post#736 » by Kerrsed » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:42 pm

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lilfishi22 wrote:
Fo-Real wrote:Kelly looks out of sorts in Golden state!! I dont know if they jive with his play style or if he is just unhappy but just the look on his face seems like his zeal for the game and fun play style is gone. I hear he is having major woman problems so maybe that is contributing, but he seems a shell of the bouncy happy go lucky dude who was here!!

Woman problems? I thought he just got engaged less than 2mths ago


Yep, think its over and messy!


Nah, you got his womenz messed up.

He is doing fine with his Fiancé (Shylynnitaa). The ex that tried to blackmail him (Makena LeDuff) was a chick that he broke up with back in 2019.

https://www.tmz.com/2021/01/15/kelly-oubre-claims-lawsuit-ex-girlfriend-attempted-extortion-3-million-dollars/

Now you could be talking about the infamous Celina Powell, the chick who outed the Suns running a train on her like 2 years ago, i guess it was either that damn good that he went back for seconds or he missed out and Booker filled him in on how good it was because Oubre banged her and her friend late last year.



But that was all leaked a good 4 or 5 months before him and his girlfriend got engaged, so she had to have known about it and been fine with marrying him anyway (Its amazing what having a ton of money can do for you).
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Post#737 » by Wilber85 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:11 pm

So basically that girl is proud to be a floozy.
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Post#738 » by Kerrsed » Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:22 pm

Wilber85 wrote:So basically that girl is proud to be a floozy.


Extremely.

She's this generation's Karrine "Superhead" Steffans. She leaked her DM's and sextape with Snoop. Same with Tory Lanes. Leaked DM's with Drake and 50 trying to get at her. Leaked multiple other photos of her doing "stuff" with other smaller rappers. She's a clout chaser that has made a name for herself by blowing and f**king famous athletes and rappers.

Funny thing is that despite her leaking all this, it seems that athletes and rappers still call her and slide in those DM's. Hell, all that Oubre stuff was months after she told No Jumper about the Suns running a train on her (Booker as the team leader was first in line of course!).

Now aspiring rappers look at her like a milestone. Like they finally made it if she releases a tape with them in it.



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Post#739 » by Fo-Real » Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:48 am

Kerrsed wrote:
Fo-Real wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Woman problems? I thought he just got engaged less than 2mths ago


Yep, think its over and messy!


Nah, you got his womenz messed up.

He is doing fine with his Fiancé (Shylynnitaa). The ex that tried to blackmail him (Makena LeDuff) was a chick that he broke up with back in 2019.

https://www.tmz.com/2021/01/15/kelly-oubre-claims-lawsuit-ex-girlfriend-attempted-extortion-3-million-dollars/

Now you could be talking about the infamous Celina Powell, the chick who outed the Suns running a train on her like 2 years ago, i guess it was either that damn good that he went back for seconds or he missed out and Booker filled him in on how good it was because Oubre banged her and her friend late last year.



But that was all leaked a good 4 or 5 months before him and his girlfriend got engaged, so she had to have known about it and been fine with marrying him anyway (Its amazing what having a ton of money can do for you).


Actually you are right and I was thinking about the fact that his ex was trying to extort him out of 3 mil. Story on yahoo on like jan 15th... I missed that it was the ex and thought it was him breaking with the current!!
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Post#740 » by Mulhollanddrive » Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:35 am

She misheard who she was getting married to over the phone, ended up with Oubre but ditched him for another guy a year later.

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