2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III

[BobbieL]

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Not a single thing I've seen so far rationalises accepting the deal they got. Not a single thing

Not one single thing. The league wanted this

[sunsbg]

Watch LA trade LeBron for like Zion or some ****.

Are they building the heaviest team in history ?

[sunsbg]

Adelson ( Luka) and the Wolves owner ( Towns) traded their stars who were drafted for their own teams and stayed loyal to the franchise JUST TO SAVE MONEY primary probably can give you another point of view when analyzing what Ishbia is doing for the Suns.

Different goals, same result.

[Calvin Klein]

Adelson ( Luka) and the Wolves owner ( Towns) traded their stars who were drafted for their own teams and stayed loyal to the franchise JUST TO SAVE MONEY primary probably can give you another point of view when analyzing what Ishbia is doing for the Suns.

You cannot be serious with this

[Mulhollanddrive]

Doncic, Kleber, Morris, Washington, Powell

For

Davis, Reaves, Knecht, Christie, 2026, 2028, 2030 swaps and 2029, 2031 firsts

That would still be a major loss

Instead they got Davis and let Lakers keep 80% of their assets

[bullsaficianado]

Watch LA trade LeBron for like Zion or some ****.

I think LeBron has a NTC like Beal. I would do that deal if I was Lakers. LeBron is 40 he is not going to be playing in the NBA much longer. Than hire the best conditioning coach in the world. No way would LeBron want Pelicans so it would never happen.

[Saberestar]

Adelson ( Luka) and the Wolves owner ( Towns) traded their stars who were drafted for their own teams and stayed loyal to the franchise JUST TO SAVE MONEY primary probably can give you another point of view when analyzing what Ishbia is doing for the Suns.

You cannot be serious with this

Results aren't there but he is putting all (money and all resources) trying to build a great team.

Mavs and Wolves got to the Western Conference Finals and look at what their owners have done to their franchises JUST TO SAVE MONEY. I would hate that.

[Calvin Klein]

Adelson ( Luka) and the Wolves owner ( Towns) traded their stars who were drafted for their own teams and stayed loyal to the franchise JUST TO SAVE MONEY primary probably can give you another point of view when analyzing what Ishbia is doing for the Suns.

You cannot be serious with this

Results aren't there but he is putting all (money and all resources) trying to build a great team.

Mavs and Wolves got to the Western Conference Finals and look at what their owners have done to their franchises JUST TO SAVE MONEY. I would hate that.

Just because there are other **** owners doesn't mean Ishbia's doing a good job. Yes, he is spending money, so what? In the stupidest way possible.

I'm not impressed by some uber rich guy spending money, sorry. I would be impressed if he had put smart basketball personnel and let them do their job.

Celtics, Spurs, Heat...I don't even know who owns those teams. But I sure do know who the GM is. That's the type of example to follow.

[Calvin Klein]

besides, this is not even about saving money for Dallas. It cannot be. It's shady as ****. If they wanted to get rid of Luka for WHATEVER reason, they could have got a much better return but instead he goes to the Lakers, of course

[Saberestar]

besides, this is not even about saving money for Dallas. It cannot be. It's shady as ****. If they wanted to get rid of Luka for WHATEVER reason, they could have got a much better return but instead he goes to the Lakers, of course

The Mavs, who were $5.1 million over the luxury tax before acquiring Davis, are now $628,000 under the tax, according to Bobby Marks of ESPN.

And they don't have to pay the supermax (biggest contract ever) to Doncic now.

[Calvin Klein]

besides, this is not even about saving money for Dallas. It cannot be. It's shady as ****. If they wanted to get rid of Luka for WHATEVER reason, they could have got a much better return but instead he goes to the Lakers, of course

The Mavs, who were $5.1 million over the luxury tax before acquiring Davis, are now $628,000 under the tax, according to Bobby Marks of ESPN.

And they don't have to pay the supermax (biggest contract ever) to Doncic now.

still doesn't explain why the Lakers. That's the shady part. Not whatever reason they have for getting rid of him.

[Saberestar]

You cannot be serious with this

Results aren't there but he is putting all (money and all resources) trying to build a great team.

Mavs and Wolves got to the Western Conference Finals and look at what their owners have done to their franchises JUST TO SAVE MONEY. I would hate that.

Just because there are other **** owners doesn't mean Ishbia's doing a good job. Yes, he is spending money, so what? In the stupidest way possible.

I'm not impressed by some uber rich guy spending money, sorry. I would be impressed if he had put smart basketball personnel and let them do their job.

Celtics, Spurs, Heat...I don't even know who owns those teams. But I sure do know who the GM is. That's the type of example to follow.

Yeah, I agree with you that results aren't there for now but expending and going over the luxury tax is the first thing that you want on an owner. The good intentions are there.

[BobbieL]

besides, this is not even about saving money for Dallas. It cannot be. It's shady as ****. If they wanted to get rid of Luka for WHATEVER reason, they could have got a much better return but instead he goes to the Lakers, of course

The Mavs, who were $5.1 million over the luxury tax before acquiring Davis, are now $628,000 under the tax, according to Bobby Marks of ESPN.

And they don't have to pay the supermax (biggest contract ever) to Doncic now.

still doesn't explain why the Lakers. That's the shady part. Not whatever reason they have for getting rid of him.

There is no way the Mavs couldn't have gotten more for Luka than other teams

Yes, maybe for this year, AD will help them. But the Lakers didn't give up squat for Luka

As for the Suns - going to say it - if they are not blowing it up -- don't trade for Butler
is the Nurk for Rui thing real

also is hte Gogi for Allen thing real

[KdoubleDees23]

I dont get why everyone is crying? Luka is a whiny overweight lazy defender. Will Lebron be Lebron with Luka having ball in hand the majority of the time? He will be the point forward. I am not confident that they got any better. They are just setting up Luka to be the face of the NBA being on the Lakers.

Lebron is going to be out in the next year or two. I just think the Mavs got fleeced. They could have traded Luka pretty much anywhere for a better package.

Luka to Houston for Amen Thompson, Green & 3 firsts
Luka to Thunder for Chet, Williams, etc.
Luka to Phoenix for KD, Nurkic, Dunn, etc.
Luka to New Orleans for Zion, Ingram, etc.

They literally got AD and a crap 1st. That was a horrible package.

[KdoubleDees23]

And they don't have to pay the supermax (biggest contract ever) to Doncic now.

still doesn't explain why the Lakers. That's the shady part. Not whatever reason they have for getting rid of him.

There is no way the Mavs couldn't have gotten more for Luka than other teams

Yes, maybe for this year, AD will help them. But the Lakers didn't give up squat for Luka

As for the Suns - going to say it - if they are not blowing it up -- don't trade for Butler
is the Nurk for Rui thing real

also is hte Gogi for Allen thing real

I second that Nurk for Rui. But then again do we want to give the Lakers a Center that can help fill a need.

[bwgood77]

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The man lost a LOT I mean A LOT of money. I wonder there's something we don't know about Luka's health or his approach to his conditioning. Resigning a generational talent entering his prime is a no-branier. WTF are they thinking?

Mavs trading Luka because he is fat before the Pels trading Zion is insane.

I don't think Sidery knows what he is talking about. He's just repeating what Shams and others said. It was obvious he was going to leave in FA or ask to be traded at some point.

[bwgood77]

See the great thing about not paying much attention to the NBA anymore is that I have no idea who the **** losers like that guy are or who they're supposed to be.

He hinted at the KD trade, etc, and always hints things are in the works. But mainly does stuff like this after big news is reported claims something like "yeah, I knew this was gonna be happening for months".....when if you're really an "insider" you'd say something then. But he claims he doesn't want to burn sources (but it doesn't stop him from hinting at stuff when he does know a little " and I admit, he has in the past.

[BobbieL]

still doesn't explain why the Lakers. That's the shady part. Not whatever reason they have for getting rid of him.

There is no way the Mavs couldn't have gotten more for Luka than other teams

Yes, maybe for this year, AD will help them. But the Lakers didn't give up squat for Luka

As for the Suns - going to say it - if they are not blowing it up -- don't trade for Butler
is the Nurk for Rui thing real

also is hte Gogi for Allen thing real

I second that Nurk for Rui. But then again do we want to give the Lakers a Center that can help fill a need.

Don’t care if it helps the Lakers

Suns have to be smart and trading for butler now would be the height of stupidity

Nurk for Rui is a wash dollars and contract
Gogi for Allen helps the 5

Book and KD probably ask for trades this summer

Win win win

[Slim Charless]

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The man lost a LOT I mean A LOT of money. I wonder there's something we don't know about Luka's health or his approach to his conditioning. Resigning a generational talent entering his prime is a no-branier. WTF are they thinking?

Mavs trading Luka because he is fat before the Pels trading Zion is insane.

I don't think Sidery knows what he is talking about. He's just repeating what Shams and others said. It was obvious he was going to leave in FA or ask to be traded at some point.

This sums it up for me.

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I mean ORL, OKC, SAS, HOU, BRK.....all those teams with tons of picks and young guys wouldn't have cleared out everything for this!?!?!

[bwgood77]

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Every single report so far says Luka never asked out, didn’t want out and that he was shocked by this.

Stop the f****ing idiotic crap of posting some dumbass trying to be a reporter on twitter. Seriously, if any of you actually follow that guy on twitter and post his stuff here, that actually speaks very poorly about you.

I think it's pretty obvious he was probably going to leave or ask out publicly and that his agent let it be known. Sure they will say all the right things to Shams/Stein to try and not make Luka out to be a bad guy (from Luka's side) and the Mavs GM will talk up AD (and I think he does love AD). I do think they could have gotten more but I would bet a lot that Luka was going to be gone one way or another and they could have ended up like OKC did when KD left them for nothing (they recovered well though because Presti).

I do find it crazy though that the two teams the Suns have battled for decades, for a long time with either Shaq/Kobe or Duncan/Kawhi/Ginobili or prior to that Magic/Worthy or Robinson/Elliot or Rodman now have the two best (by far) 25 or younger players in the NBA, two generational players that will likely go down as top 10 players or close by the end of their careers.

Luka will be the biggest superstar ever maybe since Jordan. This is like Larry Bird being in LA. Like he is the most exciting guy to watch with his passing, etc, and his confidence to take over a game and win is higher than anyone's, and if you challenge him, he is a killer. He also is the best at making others better along with Jokic.