Devin Booker

TheProcess · Post #741 » by **TheProcess** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:29 pm

Question- Would the Suns ever trade Booker? If so, what would the package look like?

NTB · Post #742 » by **NTB** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:30 pm

TheProcess wrote:Question- Would the Suns ever trade Booker? If so, what would the package look like?

Welcome Embiid. Booker is untouchable, thanks.

Post #743 » by **lilfishi22** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:45 pm

MathiasPW wrote:
carey wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Someone brought up Kobe on the general board when talking about Booker, which I want to be careful about because it can be premature to make such comparisons and those things usually get shut down there, but I decided to do some comparisons, and found this interesting.

http://bkref.com/tiny/doP2o

Only difference is the 6 trips to the line per game.

And that little thing called defense.

A sprinkle of elite athleticism certainly helps

Post #744 » by **lilfishi22** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:53 pm

TheProcess wrote:Question- Would the Suns ever trade Booker? If so, what would the package look like?

Karl-Anthony Towns + non-consecutive picks for the next 25 years + a washing machine (in good working condition)

For real though, it would take a lot to pry him away from the Suns. The kid is being given every opportunity here to shine and given what we've seen from him last season, we're expecting him to continue to improve. When he's the one bright spot in half a decade, the package would have to be more than good value; it would have to be one we can't refuse.

MrMiyagi · Post #745 » by **MrMiyagi** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:10 pm

TheProcess wrote:Question- Would the Suns ever trade Booker? If so, what would the package look like?

You're not going to solve your big-man dilemma by trading for Booker. Len is serviceable enough and Chriss and Bender are looking good (the former more so than the latter so far). We're in a better boat than Philly in terms of a well balanced roster of the future. The only way we "solve our guard problem" is by trading Knight, but even that's unlikely.

Post #746 » by **Qwigglez** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:36 pm

TheProcess wrote:Question- Would the Suns ever trade Booker? If so, what would the package look like?

Even Ben Simmons wouldn't be enough.

TheProcess · Post #747 » by **TheProcess** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:40 pm

MrMiyagi wrote:
TheProcess wrote:Question- Would the Suns ever trade Booker? If so, what would the package look like?

You're not going to solve your big-man dilemma by trading for Booker. Len is serviceable enough and Chriss and Bender are looking good (the former more so than the latter so far). We're in a better boat than Philly in terms of a well balanced roster of the future. The only way we "solve our guard problem" is by trading Knight, but even that's unlikely.

That's OK,
I'm fine with Simmons, Embiid, Okafor, Saric, Noel, and Holmes.

Post #748 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:37 am

TheProcess wrote:That's OK,
I'm fine with Simmons, Embiid, Okafor, Saric, Noel, and Holmes.

They hype is too huge around Booker in Phoenix to trade him. Fans would revolt. It's the first good thing to happen for the Suns in six years.

I won't say Phx is in a better position necessarily because you guys have assets, players that look to have a lot of talent, and probably a bright future, especially if you can get value for one of your bigs. I think Saric is the real deal and Luwawu was a good pick as well, I think.

And this next draft is loaded with point guards and you very well could have two really high lottery picks.

Most of our fan base is really happy about where we are though.

Zelaznyrules · Post #749 » by **Zelaznyrules** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:54 am

I can't think of a package we'd trade Booker for right now. Even an obvious overpay such as Towns and we'd still pass. We've not only put him on a pedestal as our star of the future but we've also made him the face of our franchise in a way that we haven't done since Charles Barkley. It's a brutal world so it probably wouldn't take a whole lot to knock him off that pedestal but that would have to happen before we'd listen to trade offers. All of this, obviously, is JMO.

carey · Post #750 » by **carey** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:46 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:
MathiasPW wrote:
carey wrote:Only difference is the 6 trips to the line per game.

And that little thing called defense.

A sprinkle of elite athleticism certainly helps

I think Booker's athleticism is severely underrated. He's so smooth and effortless out there you don't notice it, but next game pay attention to his first step. It's nearly elite. Sure, dunking on guys is great but that's not the only sign of elite athleticism imho.

jcsunsfan · Post #751 » by **jcsunsfan** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:12 pm

TheProcess wrote:Question- Would the Suns ever trade Booker? If so, what would the package look like?

The Suns have been waiting for a star/superstar player forever. I doubt they are going to trade him away--for anything. Its just so rare to get a player of his caliber.

jcsunsfan · Post #752 » by **jcsunsfan** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:16 pm

carey wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
MathiasPW wrote:And that little thing called defense.

A sprinkle of elite athleticism certainly helps

I think Booker's athleticism is severely underrated. He's so smooth and effortless out there you don't notice it, but next game pay attention to his first step. It's nearly elite. Sure, dunking on guys is great but that's not the only sign of elite athleticism imho.

I agree with this totally. I have never seen a player look as light on his feet as Booker. He is cat-quick. He moves like a cat. His feet don't pound the floor, he just glides. Notice the length of strides he takes as he runs the floor. Every movement is totally efficient.

TOO · Post #753 » by **TOO** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:47 pm

Qwigglez wrote:
TheProcess wrote:Question- Would the Suns ever trade Booker? If so, what would the package look like?

Even Ben Simmons wouldn't be enough.

Of course he wouldnt be. Booker is younger, more proven, and can actually shoot the ball.

Damkac · Post #754 » by **Damkac** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:50 pm

Zelaznyrules wrote:I can't think of a package we'd trade Booker for right now. Even an obvious overpay such as Towns and we'd still pass. We've not only put him on a pedestal as our star of the future but we've also made him the face of our franchise in a way that we haven't done since Charles Barkley. It's a brutal world so it probably wouldn't take a whole lot to knock him off that pedestal but that would have to happen before we'd listen to trade offers. All of this, obviously, is JMO.

I wanted to write earlier that I would trade Booker for Towns but I'm not sure if I would trade him for AD as he gets injuried all the time. And AD just got injuried

jcsunsfan · Post #755 » by **jcsunsfan** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:53 pm

Damkac wrote:
Zelaznyrules wrote:I can't think of a package we'd trade Booker for right now. Even an obvious overpay such as Towns and we'd still pass. We've not only put him on a pedestal as our star of the future but we've also made him the face of our franchise in a way that we haven't done since Charles Barkley. It's a brutal world so it probably wouldn't take a whole lot to knock him off that pedestal but that would have to happen before we'd listen to trade offers. All of this, obviously, is JMO.

I wanted to write earlier that I would trade Booker for Towns but I'm not sure if I would trade him for AD as he gets injuried all the time. And AD just got injuried

OH but man. If we could pry away AD without giving up Booker. . . .

NTB · Post #756 » by **NTB** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:02 pm

I'd prefer KAT over AD.

Post #757 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:48 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:
carey wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:A sprinkle of elite athleticism certainly helps

I think Booker's athleticism is severely underrated. He's so smooth and effortless out there you don't notice it, but next game pay attention to his first step. It's nearly elite. Sure, dunking on guys is great but that's not the only sign of elite athleticism imho.

I agree with this totally. I have never seen a player look as light on his feet as Booker. He is cat-quick. He moves like a cat. His feet don't pound the floor, he just glides. Notice the length of strides he takes as he runs the floor. Every movement is totally efficient.

I didn't say his athleticism is bad or that he's not quick, it's just not elite. By all measures, by all scouting reports and by his in game showings, he doesn't have elite athleticism. His ability to make use of his good but not elite athleticism is evident on the court. It just means he gets his offense in ways that's not dunking on fools and that's perfectly fine. The kid is damn near a black belt in the midrange game already and that's using craftiness, reading the court well to get to his spot and having one of the wettest jumpers in the game today.

Zelaznyrules · Post #758 » by **Zelaznyrules** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:32 am

NTB wrote:I'd prefer KAT over AD.

Yeah, right now I think just about everybody would. But a healthy AD? Wouldn't it be great to line him up next to Booker? I'm not an Okafor fan but I'm starting to hope there's some truth to the rumors about him being on the block and us perhaps being interested. It would be great to have a low post scoring option to balance out our perimeter threats.

Zelaznyrules · Post #759 » by **Zelaznyrules** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:44 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:
carey wrote:
I think Booker's athleticism is severely underrated. He's so smooth and effortless out there you don't notice it, but next game pay attention to his first step. It's nearly elite. Sure, dunking on guys is great but that's not the only sign of elite athleticism imho.

I agree with this totally. I have never seen a player look as light on his feet as Booker. He is cat-quick. He moves like a cat. His feet don't pound the floor, he just glides. Notice the length of strides he takes as he runs the floor. Every movement is totally efficient.

I didn't say his athleticism is bad or that he's not quick, it's just not elite. By all measures, by all scouting reports and by his in game showings, he doesn't have elite athleticism. His ability to make use of his good but not elite athleticism is evident on the court. It just means he gets his offense in ways that's not dunking on fools and that's perfectly fine. The kid is damn near a black belt in the midrange game already and that's using craftiness, reading the court well to get to his spot and having one of the wettest jumpers in the game today.

I think there's aspects of his athleticism that are elite. Did you see how quickly and how high he got up on some of those mid-range shots the other night? He may not be Gerald Green but I don't see his game limited in any way by a lack of elite athleticism which IMO is all that really matters. Typically when they say someone lacks elite athleticism they're talking about a Dudley, someone that has to find other ways to be effective. I don't see that with Devin.

Post #760 » by **lilfishi22** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:13 am

Zelaznyrules wrote:I think there's aspects of his athleticism that are elite. Did you see how quickly and how high he got up on some of those mid-range shots the other night? He may not be Gerald Green but I don't see his game limited in any way by a lack of elite athleticism which IMO is all that really matters. Typically when they say someone lacks elite athleticism they're talking about a Dudley, someone that has to find other ways to be effective. I don't see that with Devin.

His ability to elevate for a jumper is excellent, no question about it. However, I think to say anyone more athletic than Jared Dudley is considered elite is a VERY low baseline and that's really my whole point about elite athleticism. The elite athleticism label should be reserved for truly elite, top 1% of athletes, not anyone that's more athletic than Jared Dudley.

When will Booker hit 8,000 career points?