KLEON wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:KLEON wrote:The fact that ppl here feel the need to basically post a book trying to explain that 22 is a good player is beyond hilarious
As hilarious as someone who's only real contribution to this discussion is lame trolling?
And the only reason that some much reference information is unfortunately needed is because so many are simply being too dense or oblivious to Ayton's true value to this team and need a scapegoat anytime they get stuck in their emotions over our injury struggles. But hey If I'm wrong on Ayton here, feel free to offer some semblance of an actually realistic alternative solution? Take as long as you need?
everytime I give my opinion on 22 its somehow always trolling. My question to you is this, when we had all the injuries and D.A had the chance to prove he can be the man on this team what exactly happen?
I think it's mostly seen like that to so many here due to how your phrasing or stating it man! Of course your opinions are equally valid as much as anyone else's here and you're clearly not wrong on how frustrating Aytom's lack of physicality and aggression is. It does drive me mad with frustration sometimes. Probably the same as most people here because we need him to be elite, and he absolutely has the physical ability and athletic talents to legitimately dominate! But he's too easygoing and affable still. And as frilustrating as he can be at times, he still represents an elite talent and one of the very few that we actually have on this team. We need more talent here not less.
Especially with Paul's rapid departure since we've achieved exactly
ZERO acquisitions of big names or elite star talents since Paul got here despite all the initial promises. So I'm apprehensive about just flippantly dumping one of the few elite young productive talents we still have. Anyways, the reason that so many see your comments as trolling more than opinion is because they're mostly more subjective than objective. Ayton's a mitch, Ayton's too soft, ayton's a p****, Ayton's this or that.......... whatever it is being said about Ayton and how it is stated or comes across overtly negative but nothing in contrast being constructive.
Again, I'm not saying you're at all wrong on Ayton on a lot of your opinions. But being objective also points out potential positives or mention of things that hw can or is improving on to balance out the blatant criticism. And as for what Ayton did to prove himself during our injuries, OBJECTIVELY, even coming back too early from his own ankle injury and then also coming back from illness early too ( both dumb decisions) but obviously still trying to help the team that's been decimated by injuries this year. He managed to put up multiple dominant games including one or maybe more I believe wherein he also had 20+ rebounds ( an area of complaint about him from many here).
And he did this while the rest of the either didn't even shoot or only put stat lines of 0-6 points or so throughout. So he was putting up double double production while the rest of the team was mostly MIA. take away the production he put up ( even while struggling) in those games, and tell me how many losses or blowouts we have instead of our current record! Without Ayton's contribution during these injuries, we'd be in the top 6 of the lottery already. That's basically what he did, even while struggling.
