The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2

[wheezy]

If this is true, that's alarming. It could mean he didn't like all these rounds of interviews (if you don't already know you want me then you don't want me).
Or maybe he recognizes how poorly run the circus is and wants no part of it.

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Which is why I thought the number of interview rounds and how many leaks have been getting out about the candidates odd.... Quinn seemed a tier above the others by all accounts. Ishbia is probably filming a coaching hire reality show behind the scenes.

[Blonde]

I wouldn’t take much from Quin supposedly dropping out of the race. More likely this is just him saving face after he found out he wasn’t going to get the job. That said, this very public, reality show style process of hiring our head coach has been borderline embarrassing. Hoping for Bryant just so I don’t have to wonder about the MSU thing with Ott.

[thamadkant]

I wish this didn't make me think of Trump and Musk.

Don’t put that evil on us!!!

Ishbia has a lot of Trump type characteristics. If you watch any of his interviews, it’s even more obvious.

All people who worked real estate and property have similar sales talk.

[SkyBill40]

It's going to be Ott, isn't it? This Michigan State thing is really beginning to grate

Of course it's going to be him.

[BobbieL]

I wouldn’t take much from Quin supposedly dropping out of the race. More likely this is just him saving face after he found out he wasn’t going to get the job. That said, this very public, reality show style process of hiring our head coach has been borderline embarrassing. Hoping for Bryant just so I don’t have to wonder about the MSU thing with Ott.

Mat Ishbia making the coaching search like The Bachelor.

[SkyBill40]

Offer No. 3: Mavs pick up Booker and elite big-man depth

Dallas Mavericks get: Devin Booker, 2025 first-rounder (No. 29), 2028 first-rounder (least favorable of own, Knicks and Wizards), 2029 first-round pick swap (least favorable of Cavs, Timberwolves and Jazz)

Phoenix Suns get: 2025 No. 1 pick, Klay Thompson, P.J. Washington, Naji Marshall and Caleb Martin


The premise of this offer -- trading a potential NBA megastar -- is to underscore the Mavericks' need to improve their roster now. The Doncic-for-Davis trade put the Mavericks in win-now mode anyhow, with a timeline tied around Davis, 32, and Irving, 33, so it would behoove them to trade the future for the now. With those guidelines in place, trading for Booker would make a lot of sense.

The Mavericks, as constructed, have elite big-man depth and a perennial All-Star point guard in Irving but could use another dynamic perimeter presence on the wing. Dallas will need an elite playmaker who can lead the team while Irving is out, but play next to him when he returns.

Enter Booker, who was a first team All-NBA shooting guard in 2021-22, and is squarely in his prime at 28 years old. A healthy core of Davis, Irving and Booker would be able to contend for championships immediately, and Booker would remain a centerpiece even as Davis and Irving start to age out of their primes. Add on that Dallas also gets some draft considerations in this deal.

For the Suns, this offseason has the feel of a franchise that's ready to change everything and rebuild. Their attempt to win with a team featuring three pure scorers without enough supporting infrastructure didn't yield dividends, their salary cap situation is untenable and they have already traded away several future draft assets.

It has been widely rumored that Phoenix will trade Kevin Durant this offseason as well, and if the Suns were to do that deal before this one, they might have more assets to sweeten the offer for Flagg. As is, getting Flagg's potential to be their franchise cornerstone for the next generation would be amazing value, even dealing Booker and all of the draft considerations they could move.


In the hypothetical scenario in which Durant is moved before the draft, the Suns being able to include potential assets from such a deal would most likely allow them to make a more competitive offer than what is being suggested here. -- Snellings

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45425353/potential-trades-top-2025-nba-draft-pick-cooper-flagg-dallas-mavericks

As tantalizing the prospect of getting Flagg is for us, it's a non-starter discussion and not because of Booker; it's because they just aren't going to do something so absolutely stupid TWICE in a row.

[thamadkant]

Booker is not worth number 1 pick, especially with Cooper, who is being prepped by the league as a future American based star face of the NBA.

[thamadkant]

Ishiba is a horrible owner.

For those who wants to enjoy watching basketball as a form of entertainment, save yourself heart ache and head ache by just dumping the Suns and watching another team until this whole thing boils over. It might take a decade or so though. But life is too short to wait.

[BobbieL]

Ishiba is a horrible owner.

For those who wants to enjoy watching basketball as a form of entertainment, save yourself heart ache and head ache by just dumping the Suns and watching another team until this whole thing boils over. It might take a decade or so though. But life is too short to wait.

This time of year - at least for me - there will be some hope and excitement of the possibility of how Ishbia chooses to go forward

My concern is he will try to "band aid and bubblegum" this thing trying to catch lightning to get the 9th seed whereas I hope he takes a longer view and makes moves that get away from a top heavy team and builds a more balanced well rounded team that will grow over the next couple years.

But if he does something stupid, trades picks for overpriced players -- will be pretty easy to not follow next fall

[Djedefre]

Well, i can not just reprogram my mind and emotions like that and simply switch to some other team. I love the Suns and that's my curse...

[dremill24]

Well, i can not just reprogram my mind and emotions like that and simply switch to some other team. I love the Suns and that's my curse...

I told my wife at the end of the season "Jeez these guys are a lost cause, I think I'll be a Pacers fan." (They have some of my favorite players in the league). Workin out pretty well

[KdoubleDees23]

Well, i can not just reprogram my mind and emotions like that and simply switch to some other team. I love the Suns and that's my curse...

I told my wife at the end of the season "Jeez these guys are a lost cause, I think I'll be a Pacers fan." (They have some of my favorite players in the league). Workin out pretty well

Things that didn't happen for $100 Pat.

GO Thunder.

[dremill24]

Ishiba is a horrible owner.

For those who wants to enjoy watching basketball as a form of entertainment, save yourself heart ache and head ache by just dumping the Suns and watching another team until this whole thing boils over. It might take a decade or so though. But life is too short to wait.

This time of year - at least for me - there will be some hope and excitement of the possibility of how Ishbia chooses to go forward

My concern is he will try to "band aid and bubblegum" this thing trying to catch lightning to get the 9th seed whereas I hope he takes a longer view and makes moves that get away from a top heavy team and builds a more balanced well rounded team that will grow over the next couple years.

But if he does something stupid, trades picks for overpriced players -- will be pretty easy to not follow next fall

Im not one for reactive hyperbole and its all still new enough that things could just get better over time. But there are certainly traces of a franchise that looks like it could just be a deeper pocketed Bulls or Kings here in the future lol.

[Saberestar]

It's going to be Ott, isn't it? This Michigan State thing is really beginning to grate

Of course it's going to be him.

What if we hire Johnny Bryant AND Jordan Ott?

They have been working together for a full year and Bryant was the lead assistant on the Cavs.

Bryant as a HC and Ott as a lead assistant can work pretty well IMO.

[BobbieL]

Ishiba is a horrible owner.

For those who wants to enjoy watching basketball as a form of entertainment, save yourself heart ache and head ache by just dumping the Suns and watching another team until this whole thing boils over. It might take a decade or so though. But life is too short to wait.

This time of year - at least for me - there will be some hope and excitement of the possibility of how Ishbia chooses to go forward

My concern is he will try to "band aid and bubblegum" this thing trying to catch lightning to get the 9th seed whereas I hope he takes a longer view and makes moves that get away from a top heavy team and builds a more balanced well rounded team that will grow over the next couple years.

But if he does something stupid, trades picks for overpriced players -- will be pretty easy to not follow next fall

Im not one for reactive hyperbole and its all still new enough that things could just get better over time. But there are certainly traces of a franchise that looks like it could just be a deeper pocketed Bulls or Kings here in the future lol.

Thats my concern. My hope is that since they are hiring a younger coacher in Bryant or Ott - that they will want to build something, player development being important. So that means taking a decent sized step back this year - which I can be would with. I would rather the team win 28 games but have a trajectory than win 36 games but spinning wheels with overpaid players, bad chemistry and no future

[thamadkant]

Kings have been a dysfunctional franchise for a decade now or more and Suns are heading in that direction I fear. The ownership is just too impatient and not willing to set a culture. They need to copy Spurs, Thunder, Miami, Raptors in a sense.

[BobbieL]

Gambo says a new coach by the end of the week and maybe Durant trade by the draft. So once the finals are done... the rumors should start flying

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[SkyBill40]

It's going to be Ott, isn't it? This Michigan State thing is really beginning to grate

Of course it's going to be him.

What if we hire Johnny Bryant AND Jordan Ott?

They have been working together for a full year and Bryant was the lead assistant on the Cavs.

Bryant as a HC and Ott as a lead assistant can work pretty well IMO.

Sure.

[KdoubleDees23]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45425353/potential-trades-top-2025-nba-draft-pick-cooper-flagg-dallas-mavericks

Booker for Flagg, PJ , Naji , Caleb, and Klay.

Then trade KD to Spurs for #2 (maybe with a third team as well)

Give us Dylan Harper, Cooper Flagg to build around and go young.

[BobbieL]

Of course it's going to be him.

What if we hire Johnny Bryant AND Jordan Ott?

They have been working together for a full year and Bryant was the lead assistant on the Cavs.

Bryant as a HC and Ott as a lead assistant can work pretty well IMO.

Sure.

I don't see it. Ott will want to be lead assistant and my guess, Bryant would want to hire a veteran to be his bench coach. I doubt it would be "take that for data Fizdale" but somebody veteran for sure