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2014 Official FA Thread 2

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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#761 » by Barkley6 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:39 am

JDLAW wrote:Boy, I am tired of explaining this to people. Agreed in principle is an agreement to sign the contract or offer sheet when the time for performance comes due. It is basic contract law. Part of a contractual agreement is the time for performance of the obligation. In this case the agreement is that you (team) will agree to tender me an offer sheet in the amount to $x and I will agree to sign it on the first day the league permits performance to go forward.

An executed offer sheet is a contingent contract that becomes effective if the offer sheet is not matched. Under the CBA you get 3 days to do this.


Boy am I glad I didnt study contract law. -_-
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#762 » by Gorilla Warfare » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:39 am

McD only needs 48 hours to bring in LeBron, if he waits we will lose out on everyone else to improve our team. He either likes the offer or he doesn't, I could only imagine the amount of hate this board would have for McD if we waited a week and a half to hear from LeBron and by then everyone else is gone.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#763 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:39 am

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bwgood77 wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:Lebron > doing nothing > Pau/Hayward/Deng/etc

Don't mind waiting it out for Lebron. Just hope a team doesn't offer Bledsoe first thing in the morning compromising our cap space... Woj just said the big 3's contracts are in place so it's all up to Riley at this point.


It wouldn't compromise it would it? Wouldn't we have three days to match from when the offer sheet is SIGNED, which is July 8th at the earliest?


Is it the 8th? Dunno why I thought I read 10th somewhere.


Never mind my last response. Upon reading a little more, now I see the 10th in more places. Looks like it IS the 10th, like originally thought.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#764 » by Kerrsed » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:41 am

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DarkHawk wrote:Not sure if this was posted but I found it via a BSOTS article.

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Among those teams set to meet with Paul: #suns, #rockets and #mavericks
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Dallas isn't a threat with Dirk's age and Houston getting Lebron would need other teams help. Suns can say "here's a max contract and pick Melo or Bosh". The Rockets can't even offer a max deal even if they move Lin.

Miami is the competition IMO.


Hell, we can even talk to Lebron about Gasol and Gortat.

Lebron - $22M
Gasol - $12M
Gortat - $10M

Bledsoe/Dragic/Lebron/Gasol/Gortat ----- Ennis/Goodwin/Green/Keiff/Plumlee ----- Marcus/Warren/Len
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#765 » by Blackification » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:43 am

Gorilla Warfare wrote:McD only needs 48 hours to bring in LeBron, if he waits we will lose out on everyone else to improve our team. He either likes the offer or he doesn't, I could only imagine the amount of hate this board would have for McD if we waited a week and a half to hear from LeBron and by then everyone else is gone.

Considering all those people will probably be overpaid this season and the most important person is probably Bledsoe I wouldn't be mad at all. McD probably has a plan for every scenario possible he has done his homework on everybody.

and Lebron has the same agent as bledsoe who pretty much has to keep in touch with him whether he likes it or not
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#766 » by JDLAW » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:43 am

Kerrsed wrote:http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-pm-free-agency-predictions/


Nothing new here and nothing valuable here.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#767 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:44 am

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bwgood77 wrote:Dallas could do the same thing that was mentioned we could do and dump two of their players (Felton and Wright) on a team (like Orlando) willing to take expiring contracts for picks and get close to $9 million more (or over 10 if they throw in Ledo and Mekel) so many teams can also make moves to open up additional cap space, not just us. Remember this when talking about how much teams can offer because many teams would probably do this for a chance at LeBron. Of course this doesn't change the case of Cuban saying he wouldn't offer a max contract. But they could and pay Dirk more like 12 if they did this, though their roster would be pretty thin too with Ellis, Chandler, LeBron and Dirk. Now that I look at those four players though that looks better than Wade, Bosh and LeBron to me if Chandler got back to form. Those guys are pretty old too though.


Do not assume another team wants these players. Further you do not get the full contract amount back - there is still a cap hold for the open roster spot. Cuban knows what the score is and he knows he does not have a max offer reasonably available to him.


Those guys should be far easier to dump than Biedrins and Jefferson were who were owed much more money and worthless. Wright and Felton could easily be dumped on Philly or Orlando if these teams could pick up picks in the process. Those guys could even be trade-able to other teams (like we did with Butler) later by those teams. I don't doubt for one second Dallas could dump those guys if they were willing to throw in 1st round picks (which, if Lebron would commit, I'm sure they would).
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#768 » by Kerrsed » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:46 am

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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#769 » by Blackification » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:46 am

I would also like to add that Babby is probably very underrated when it comes to the free agency period. That man probably knows his stuff after being an agent for so long.. **** he ripped us off with that hedo signing im sure he will know how to swing a free agent to signing on the line
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#770 » by JDLAW » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:46 am

I do not think they are easy to dump and given the dearth of young players on the Mavs, it is going to be hard to give away multiple draft choices just to dump salaries.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#771 » by Gorilla Warfare » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:47 am

JDLAW wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-pm-free-agency-predictions/


Nothing new here and nothing valuable here.


Did he really just say that to a mod?

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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#772 » by Barkley6 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:48 am

Kerrsed wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:Not sure if this was posted but I found it via a BSOTS article.

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gary washburn @GwashburnGlobe · 48m

Among those teams set to meet with Paul: #suns, #rockets and #mavericks
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Dallas isn't a threat with Dirk's age and Houston getting Lebron would need other teams help. Suns can say "here's a max contract and pick Melo or Bosh". The Rockets can't even offer a max deal even if they move Lin.

Miami is the competition IMO.


Hell, we can even talk to Lebron about Gasol and Gortat.

Lebron - $22M
Gasol - $12M
Gortat - $10M

Bledsoe/Dragic/Lebron/Gasol/Gortat ----- Ennis/Goodwin/Green/Keiff/Plumlee ----- Marcus/Warren/Len


Gasol makes a ton of sense. But I can't see Gortat back in Phoenix.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#773 » by Qwigglez » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:48 am

Lol. Hearing the Heat are interested in getting Vince Carter. Might as well stop pursuing Lebron now. Vinsanity is going to South Beach.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#774 » by JDLAW » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:49 am

Gorilla Warfare wrote:
JDLAW wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-pm-free-agency-predictions/


Nothing new here and nothing valuable here.


Did he really just say that to a mod?

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It was not a comment on him, but on the "basketball Insiders" report. I do not always agree with Kerrsed, but find his comments insightful and would not disparage them.
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2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#775 » by Sunsdeuce » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:50 am

Qwigglez wrote:Lol. Hearing the Heat are interested in getting Vince Carter. Might as well stop pursuing Lebron now. Vinsanity is going to South Beach.

Oh I'm sure lebron is so happy about that. A 100 year old, not even a "has been" more like a "never was." Lol

They might as well just keep Beasley if that is the case.

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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#776 » by Kerrsed » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:52 am

Qwigglez wrote:Lol. Hearing the Heat are interested in getting Vince Carter. Might as well stop pursuing Lebron now. Vinsanity is going to South Beach.

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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#777 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:52 am

JDLAW wrote:I do not think they are easy to dump and given the dearth of young players on the Mavs, it is going to be hard to give away multiple draft choices just to dump salaries.


I think that's a little naive. Players like that could be dumped for protected picks that wouldn't be totally valuable. They could also retool when Tyson Chandler's $15 million comes off the books in 2015 and Monta's $8.3 million in 2015 or 2016.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#778 » by Qwigglez » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:55 am

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Qwigglez wrote:Lol. Hearing the Heat are interested in getting Vince Carter. Might as well stop pursuing Lebron now. Vinsanity is going to South Beach.

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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#779 » by Qwigglez » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:56 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/NBAMemes/status/483820437579640832[/tweet]

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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#780 » by ray ray » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:57 am

As I posted earlier.. The suns chances of getting LBJ are increasing as FA opens. It doesn't mean the Suns are getting him, but they do have his interested. McD is going to throw everything AND the kitchen sink at him.

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