sunsbg wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:sunsbg wrote:
It's definitely mind-boggling defending your arguments by putting words in someone's mouth. Where did I say the bolded part ?
So how long do you think TJ can hold the SF position if JJ is putting the same numbers, a player the organization/most fans are already seeing as the face of the team for the future ? Personally I don't see it happening from the start, but I would be surprised if they don't try to move JJ into the starting lineup at some point during the season, and if he keeps playing as in SL and improving, starting from day one next season.
You will essentially be trading TJ for nothing. The S&T market is pathetic. It's nowhere near what it was like in the previous CBA where there were real benefits to doing a S&T. But if someone offers him a deal you wouldn't even entertain matching any starter money offers?
I just don't understand why you have so little confidence in TJ yet seem to think JJ who didn't put up star level stats in SL, is ready to take a starting role before the end of the season. TJ has been at it for 3 seasons and has been proven he's an efficient scorer, adequate defender and plays well with our players. The guy is exactly what we hoped he would be.
This is kind of the issue we have with this whole tank, draft and hope cycle we appear to be in. TJ had a slow start but has been putting up starter stats but you're ready to see him off because I guess he doesn't have star potential? We've got a guy we drafted at #14 who by all measures is producing more than his draft position had anticipated. That's the kind of guy you retain.
Why do you keep insisting I have no confidence in Warren at all ? I said I like him as a 6th man. It's just that the Suns drafted a player I like better both skillset-wise and personality-wise at the same position, who I think they will try to promote to the fans/media sooner rather than later. It's just how things work in the business world. So either Warren moves to the bench or they try to fit them in the starting lineup.
Warren still have to prove his consistency and competitiveness after three seasons with the team, which doesn't look like an issue with JJ. You bring his 30 games after ASB stats on a bad team, but he still finished with 14ppg, 49%, so what about his other 30+ games ? Didn't Archie/Knight had a stretch of games putting good stats ? Not saying they are comparable, but stats are not everything.
I would match any fair offer, just fear some bad team like the Hawks will again overpay - Joe Johnson situation all over again.
Consistency doesn't look like an issue with JJ? He hasn't even played one nba game yet. I'd love to think it won't be but I hardly expect a rookie to be consistent every game. Competitive fire, yes, probably, but they have different strengths.
