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When will Booker hit 8,000 career points?

5th season
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6th season
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7th season
4
11%
 
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Post#761 » by Zelaznyrules » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:03 am

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Zelaznyrules wrote:I think there's aspects of his athleticism that are elite. Did you see how quickly and how high he got up on some of those mid-range shots the other night? He may not be Gerald Green but I don't see his game limited in any way by a lack of elite athleticism which IMO is all that really matters. Typically when they say someone lacks elite athleticism they're talking about a Dudley, someone that has to find other ways to be effective. I don't see that with Devin.

His ability to elevate for a jumper is excellent, no question about it. However, I think to say anyone more athletic than Jared Dudley is considered elite is a VERY low baseline and that's really my whole point about elite athleticism. The elite athleticism label should be reserved for truly elite, top 1% of athletes, not anyone that's more athletic than Jared Dudley.


I understand but that isn't the way the conversation is typically framed. When someone says "he" lacks elite athleticism, the implication is that "he" is vertically challenged or a half step slow or something like that. Booker falls short of elite athleticism only in that there are a very small handful of basketball players that have even more athleticism than he does.
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#762 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:23 am

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Zelaznyrules wrote:I think there's aspects of his athleticism that are elite. Did you see how quickly and how high he got up on some of those mid-range shots the other night? He may not be Gerald Green but I don't see his game limited in any way by a lack of elite athleticism which IMO is all that really matters. Typically when they say someone lacks elite athleticism they're talking about a Dudley, someone that has to find other ways to be effective. I don't see that with Devin.

His ability to elevate for a jumper is excellent, no question about it. However, I think to say anyone more athletic than Jared Dudley is considered elite is a VERY low baseline and that's really my whole point about elite athleticism. The elite athleticism label should be reserved for truly elite, top 1% of athletes, not anyone that's more athletic than Jared Dudley.


I understand but that isn't the way the conversation is typically framed. When someone says "he" lacks elite athleticism, the implication is that "he" is vertically challenged or a half step slow or something like that. Booker falls short of elite athleticism only in that there are a very small handful of basketball players that have even more athleticism than he does.

Maybe we're just arguing semantics here.

I think a lot of players are as athletic as Booker and a number are more athletic than he is. To me, he's average to slightly above average athletically. It shouldn't affect him on offense but on defense, it is hurting him now.
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#763 » by Zelaznyrules » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:30 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:His ability to elevate for a jumper is excellent, no question about it. However, I think to say anyone more athletic than Jared Dudley is considered elite is a VERY low baseline and that's really my whole point about elite athleticism. The elite athleticism label should be reserved for truly elite, top 1% of athletes, not anyone that's more athletic than Jared Dudley.


I understand but that isn't the way the conversation is typically framed. When someone says "he" lacks elite athleticism, the implication is that "he" is vertically challenged or a half step slow or something like that. Booker falls short of elite athleticism only in that there are a very small handful of basketball players that have even more athleticism than he does.

Maybe we're just arguing semantics here.

I think a lot of players are as athletic as Booker and a number are more athletic than he is. To me, he's average to slightly above average athletically. It shouldn't affect him on offense but on defense, it is hurting him now.


I guess we were.

I think he's a far better athlete than you give him credit for being. IMO he falls just short of the topmost level, well above the average NBA athlete. I agree he's a far inferior defender to Kobe at his best but I don't think it's athleticism that creates this difference. Kobe wasn't much of a defender the first few years of his career either. He decided to focus on defense 3 or 4 years into his career and then became a great defender (for awhile anyway) but I don't recall him being any better than Devin at this stage of his career.
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Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#764 » by MrMiyagi » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:35 am

Booker isn't an athletic freak like some of these guys, be he's smooth and graceful, almost like Grant Hill was.
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#765 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:15 am

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Zelaznyrules wrote:
I understand but that isn't the way the conversation is typically framed. When someone says "he" lacks elite athleticism, the implication is that "he" is vertically challenged or a half step slow or something like that. Booker falls short of elite athleticism only in that there are a very small handful of basketball players that have even more athleticism than he does.

Maybe we're just arguing semantics here.

I think a lot of players are as athletic as Booker and a number are more athletic than he is. To me, he's average to slightly above average athletically. It shouldn't affect him on offense but on defense, it is hurting him now.


I guess we were.

I think he's a far better athlete than you give him credit for being. IMO he falls just short of the topmost level, well above the average NBA athlete. I agree he's a far inferior defender to Kobe at his best but I don't think it's athleticism that creates this difference. Kobe wasn't much of a defender the first few years of his career either. He decided to focus on defense 3 or 4 years into his career and then became a great defender (for awhile anyway) but I don't recall him being any better than Devin at this stage of his career.

Good thing is, he's got great BBIQ which will definitely aid him on the defensive end of the court.
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Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#766 » by ATTL » Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:07 am

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Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#767 » by MrMiyagi » Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:25 am

ATTL wrote:http://www.ecumenicalnews.com/article/los-angeles-lakers-trade-rumors-2016-brandon-ingram-for-suns-devin-booker/53196.htm

Booker for Ingram "rumor"

http://swarmandsting.com/2016/10/11/charlotte-hornets-frank-kaminsky-vs-devin-booker-no-regrets/
Hornets fan lamenting the Frank pick.

That Lakers article is shameful homerism and it's not even funny.
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Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#768 » by Sunsss » Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:26 am

He is so deadly in semi-transition. Just when you think he's not gonna go 1-on-3, he does and usually finishes like this: https://streamable.com/l6aq

This was sweet from tonight too: https://streamable.com/rimh
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Post#769 » by ATTL » Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:30 am

Remember how we thought it was weird when Jimmy Butler was saying Book was talking trash to him last December? Its so normal now.
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Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#770 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:51 am

ATTL wrote:http://www.ecumenicalnews.com/article/los-angeles-lakers-trade-rumors-2016-brandon-ingram-for-suns-devin-booker/53196.htm

Booker for Ingram "rumor"

http://swarmandsting.com/2016/10/11/charlotte-hornets-frank-kaminsky-vs-devin-booker-no-regrets/
Hornets fan lamenting the Frank pick.

So glad we didn't go with Kaminsky. Not just because we would've missed out on Booker but because Kaminsky just isn't that good
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Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#771 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:53 am

ATTL wrote:Remember how we thought it was weird when Jimmy Butler was saying Book was talking trash to him last December? Its so normal now.

Any unproven rookie doing that to an all-star is disrespectful

But because it's Booker

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Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#772 » by MrMiyagi » Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:56 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
ATTL wrote:http://www.ecumenicalnews.com/article/los-angeles-lakers-trade-rumors-2016-brandon-ingram-for-suns-devin-booker/53196.htm

Booker for Ingram "rumor"

http://swarmandsting.com/2016/10/11/charlotte-hornets-frank-kaminsky-vs-devin-booker-no-regrets/
Hornets fan lamenting the Frank pick.

So glad we didn't go with Kaminsky. Not just because we would've missed out on Booker but because Kaminsky just isn't that good

Yup, just because Jesus descended into his body to help Wisconsin beat the Wildcats in the NCAA tournament doesn't make him a good player.

Apologies to my fellow Wildcats for bringing up those painful memories.
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Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#773 » by Zelaznyrules » Thu Oct 13, 2016 5:02 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
ATTL wrote:http://www.ecumenicalnews.com/article/los-angeles-lakers-trade-rumors-2016-brandon-ingram-for-suns-devin-booker/53196.htm

Booker for Ingram "rumor"

http://swarmandsting.com/2016/10/11/charlotte-hornets-frank-kaminsky-vs-devin-booker-no-regrets/
Hornets fan lamenting the Frank pick.

So glad we didn't go with Kaminsky. Not just because we would've missed out on Booker but because Kaminsky just isn't that good


I like Kaminsky and think he will have a career roughly equal to his draft spot. But I love Booker and think he will have a career typical of a number one pick.
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Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#774 » by Zelaznyrules » Thu Oct 13, 2016 5:05 am

MrMiyagi wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
ATTL wrote:http://www.ecumenicalnews.com/article/los-angeles-lakers-trade-rumors-2016-brandon-ingram-for-suns-devin-booker/53196.htm

Booker for Ingram "rumor"

http://swarmandsting.com/2016/10/11/charlotte-hornets-frank-kaminsky-vs-devin-booker-no-regrets/
Hornets fan lamenting the Frank pick.

So glad we didn't go with Kaminsky. Not just because we would've missed out on Booker but because Kaminsky just isn't that good

Yup, just because Jesus descended into his body to help Wisconsin beat the Wildcats in the NCAA tournament doesn't make him a good player.

Apologies to my fellow Wildcats for bringing up those painful memories.


It never happened. It's a common mistake so I don't fault you for it but no, the Arizona Wildcats never faced Wisconsin in the tourney. It just didn't happen. Ever. Seriously.

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Post#775 » by kennydorglas » Thu Oct 13, 2016 5:20 am

MrMiyagi wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
ATTL wrote:http://www.ecumenicalnews.com/article/los-angeles-lakers-trade-rumors-2016-brandon-ingram-for-suns-devin-booker/53196.htm

Booker for Ingram "rumor"

http://swarmandsting.com/2016/10/11/charlotte-hornets-frank-kaminsky-vs-devin-booker-no-regrets/
Hornets fan lamenting the Frank pick.

So glad we didn't go with Kaminsky. Not just because we would've missed out on Booker but because Kaminsky just isn't that good

Yup, just because Jesus descended into his body to help Wisconsin beat the Wildcats in the NCAA tournament doesn't make him a good player.

Apologies to my fellow Wildcats for bringing up those painful memories.


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Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#776 » by Blackification » Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:37 am

ATTL wrote:Remember how we thought it was weird when Jimmy Butler was saying Book was talking trash to him last December? Its so normal now.

From what I was following on Twitter it looked like he was talking **** to Gobert when we were down 20+ lol. But did read that he tries to hype himself up and talks to himself during the games too so who knows, if it works i'll take it.

Especially when he follows it up by giving his signed game shoes to a kid that yelled out encouraging words like he apparently did today
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Post#777 » by NTB » Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:22 pm

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Post#778 » by NTB » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:47 pm

carey wrote:It is 2-time, every time.
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Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#779 » by Qwigglez » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:49 am

Blackification wrote:
ATTL wrote:Remember how we thought it was weird when Jimmy Butler was saying Book was talking trash to him last December? Its so normal now.

From what I was following on Twitter it looked like he was talking **** to Gobert when we were down 20+ lol. But did read that he tries to hype himself up and talks to himself during the games too so who knows, if it works i'll take it.

Especially when he follows it up by giving his signed game shoes to a kid that yelled out encouraging words like he apparently did today


I'll have to remember this when I go to the Blazers game in a month. :D
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Post#780 » by NTB » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:41 pm

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