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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#761 » by Sunsfan12 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:57 am

Bledsoe is a fringe all star player. What the **** is going on with some of these trade proposals?? Two first rounders or a first rounder and young player. We will take on salary to make it work. That's what it takes to get ANY player of his caliber... leverage or not.

I realize some are just being sarcastic or facetious. But for those who aren't please don't waste our time.
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#762 » by Qwigglez » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:38 am

Bledsoe vs the top East teams last year:
Boston: 28 points, 9 assist, 6 boards, 45% FG (1 game)
Cleveland: 26.5 points, 8.5 assist, 4 boards, 3 steals 50% FG (2 games)
Washington: 29.5 points, 5.5 assist, 6 boards, 1 block, 44% FG (2 games
Raptors: 31 points, 11.5 assist, 5.5 boards, 1 block, 1.5 steals (2 games)
Warriors: 23 points, 5 assist, 4 boards, 2 steals, 54% FG (3 games) (Obviously not the East)

Bledsoe dominates against the East so I would assume Eastern Conference teams should be pushing harder to get him. I would hope GM Lebron makes a call and would take Bledsoe plus both Miami picks for Frye/IT and the Nets pick. I softened my stance on any Bucks deal and would likely take Bledsoe for Brogdon/Henson and a pick. Henson could at least be a backup for a couple of years if we don't keep Len around. Philly may want Fultz to learn behind Bledsoe, so they could offer the Lakers pick (yay, let's get that back) and Jerryd Bayless who grew up in Phoenix.

Any of those deals and I'm good. 8-)

*edit* I'm confused by the Lakers pick. I believe Philly keeps it if it lands between 2-5, and if it's 6-30 than the Celtics get it?
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#764 » by RunDogGun » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:04 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:Hey. Would an offer of Enes Kanter and a future 2nd rounder for Bledsoe intrigue you guys? The money matches up. Kanter is a beast in the paint. Pulled down 19 rebounds tonight (w/ 16 points) against the Celtics.

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No, thanks.


How about Kyle O’Quinn, Courtney Lee and a future 2nd?


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I’d take O’Quinn and French Frank, and we’d throw in a second rounder, would that work?
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#765 » by Fo-Real » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:17 pm

Has Frank shown one flash of anything since being on Knicks be it preseason, practice, A DAMN PICK UP GAME THAT WAS FILMED?!?! Thought they were crazy to draft him and have not seen a single damn reason why we should want him.
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#766 » by RunDogGun » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:26 pm

Fo-Real wrote:Has Frank shown one flash of anything since being on Knicks be it preseason, practice, A DAMN PICK UP GAME THAT WAS FILMED?!?! Thought they were crazy to draft him and have not seen a single damn reason why we should want him.

He has only 8 mins in the NBA so far, so no, he hasn’t shown anything yet. But we don’t need him right now, and he is only 19. It would be a prospect for the future, basically the 8th pick and O’Quinn (Who I have wanted since his draft day), for Bledsoe and a second rounder. We don’t need a second rounder next year, for we have a ton of young players plus two firsts, and a limited roster.
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#767 » by Fo-Real » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:32 pm

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Fo-Real wrote:Has Frank shown one flash of anything since being on Knicks be it preseason, practice, A DAMN PICK UP GAME THAT WAS FILMED?!?! Thought they were crazy to draft him and have not seen a single damn reason why we should want him.

He has only 8 mins in the NBA so far, so no, he hasn’t shown anything yet. But we don’t need him right now, and he is only 19. It would be a prospect for the future, basically the 8th pick and O’Quinn (Who I have wanted since his draft day), for Bledsoe and a second rounder. We don’t need a second rounder next year, for we have a ton of young players plus two firsts, and a limited roster.


If he has done nothing against nba talent (not even a word of being impressive in practice or summer league or in someones backyard), what makes him a better prospect than Mudiay or any other potential clown being mentioned?!?! What makes him worth developing over other young guards who are around?
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#768 » by RunDogGun » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:39 pm

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Fo-Real wrote:Has Frank shown one flash of anything since being on Knicks be it preseason, practice, A DAMN PICK UP GAME THAT WAS FILMED?!?! Thought they were crazy to draft him and have not seen a single damn reason why we should want him.

He has only 8 mins in the NBA so far, so no, he hasn’t shown anything yet. But we don’t need him right now, and he is only 19. It would be a prospect for the future, basically the 8th pick and O’Quinn (Who I have wanted since his draft day), for Bledsoe and a second rounder. We don’t need a second rounder next year, for we have a ton of young players plus two firsts, and a limited roster.


If he has done nothing against nba talent (not even a word of being impressive in practice or summer league or in someones backyard), what makes him a better prospect than Mudiay or any other potential clown being mentioned?!?! What makes him worth developing over other young guards who are around?

Well he isn’t the only person I was talking about in the trade. I like O’Quinn, like I said multiple times, and Frank is a future prospect we don’t need right now. He could develop in the G-League until he showed what he could do. Mudiay would expect to be on the roster and maybe even start. I’m not sure why you are using so many punctuation marks, no need to get all mad, it’s just a trade suggestion.
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#769 » by Fo-Real » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:51 pm

Lol, you are very defensive, this is not an argument. I actually wanted your opinion on Frank as a prospect, was hoping for a lesson on what he has done or is expected to become comparison wise, in my wildest thought i would not have thought it would get you going. It was also directed more toward the board as to who would want him and why? I was hoping to be persuaded since his name keeps coming up as a good get from the Knicks. Sorry to have personally stressed you out buddy, not intentional. If you notice, the first post about "has frank shown anything" did not include you in the quote, I was not responding to you personally just asking. You responded to me mister sensitive.
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#770 » by RunDogGun » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:02 pm

Fo-Real wrote:Lol, you are very defensive, this is not an argument. I actually wanted your opinion on Frank as a prospect, was hoping for a lesson on what he has done or is expected to become comparison wise, in my wildest thought i would not have thought it would get you going. It was also directed more toward the board as to who would want him and why? I was hoping to be persuaded since his name keeps coming up as a good get from the Knicks. Sorry to have personally stressed you out buddy, not intentional. If you notice, the first post about "has frank shown anything" did not include you in the quote, I was not responding to you personally just asking. You responded to me mister sensitive.

Not stressed at all, you seem to be projecting. I like Frank’s length and experience overseas. But again, my player of choice was O’Quinn. I liked what Mike James did in his first game running the show, so I’d like to see that play out for a bit, and have a decent prospect in the G-League, who is young with skills. O’Quinn could be used right away, without taking the ball out of our shooters’ hands. It moves Bledsoe to the East. I didn’t realize I had to have a complete essay ready for you, to explain why others have mentioned Frank, I thought me explaining that I Liked O’Quinn would be sufficient.

It was the Knicks’ fan who brought up O’Quinn, and I added Frank to the deal, that is pretty simple. And you responded to me first dude, so you may want to take your own advice?
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#771 » by Mulhollanddrive » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:06 pm

I think Ntilikina can be All NBA Defensive PG, he has the longest wingspan for position and was already a 3+D guy in Europe at 18. Tony Allen, Avery Bradley type of player.
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#772 » by Fo-Real » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:10 pm

That response makes more sense than "no need to get all mad", explaining "why Frank over others", O'Quinn didnt come up in my response to your response, there was no anger and I was wondering why you responded specifically me if you did not intend on explaining what you were thinking Crazy of me I guess.
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#773 » by Fo-Real » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:12 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:I think Ntilikina can be All NBA Defensive PG, he has the longest wingspan for position and was already a 3+D guy in Europe at 18. Tony Allen, Avery Bradley type of player.


Thank you, makes sense but have his skills transferred to the nba level, has he looked good against better talent? Do you personally think he is a better prospect than guys like Mudiay or even Avery Bradley?
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#774 » by Mulhollanddrive » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:14 pm

He's in the same bracket as other freak athletes where it's about physical tools and developing skills as a pro.

I don't think NY are letting him go anyway.
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#775 » by RunDogGun » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:16 pm

Fo-Real wrote:That response makes more sense than "no need to get all mad", explaining "why Frank over others", O'Quinn didnt come up in my response to your response, there was no anger and I was wondering why you responded specifically me if you did not intend on explaining what you were thinking Crazy of me I guess.

Ugh, you were writing in all caps, and using !?!?!? After a few of your sentences. My trade was what you based your question off of, correct? Or did you just randomly choose Frank? :roll:

And I did answer your question, you just didn’t like my answer I guess. He was a future prospect.
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#776 » by RunDogGun » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:18 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:He's in the same bracket as other freak athletes where it's about physical tools and developing skills as a pro.

Yep, a decent G-League player, who could develop into a solid player.plus he would fit our timeline of young core that we are already developing.
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#777 » by Fo-Real » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:18 pm

I thought they were crazy to draft him that high, figured a guy like Dennis Smith would have been a lock, wonder if they regret it or if he has shown enough that they are still on his bandwagon. If they still like him, then I cant see them giving him up for Bled in any package. If they have been convinced otherwise (regret), I would be skeptical about taking him in a package back.
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#778 » by RunDogGun » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:27 pm

Fo-Real wrote:I thought they were crazy to draft him that high, figured a guy like Dennis Smith would have been a lock, wonder if they regret it or if he has shown enough that they are still on his bandwagon. If they still like him, then I cant see them giving him up for Bled in any package. If they have been convinced otherwise (regret), I would be skeptical about taking him in a package back.

Smith would have been better for them, maybe they thought they would get a pg in FA, and develop Frank for the future. Maybe they had already discussed a trade before the draft?
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#779 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:39 pm

Fo-Real wrote:I thought they were crazy to draft him that high, figured a guy like Dennis Smith would have been a lock, wonder if they regret it or if he has shown enough that they are still on his bandwagon. If they still like him, then I cant see them giving him up for Bled in any package. If they have been convinced otherwise (regret), I would be skeptical about taking him in a package back.


I get your point on if they would make him available it's a sign the Suns should be leery of taking him but I guess I view it as he's still a very big unknown. You asked earlier why the Suns should be interested and to me it's that his profile as a player in theory would be a really nice fit next to Booker. He's 6'5 with a 7'0 wing span with a good motor and high basketball IQ so profiles as a good defender something that will be important to put next to Devin. He shot the 3 ball pretty well in Europe so profiles as a plus spot up shooter again something that would be good next to Booker. His biggest weakness is as a primary ball handler but if they plan on using Booker to create in the half court this will be offset. Now will he reach his potential and be the player the "could" be that's hard to say like with any young prospect but IMO the profile is what you would want as a core piece.

Of all the semi realistic trades for bledsoe this is my favorite and I would be willing to take a bad contract back to sweeten the deal or even consider giving up some minor other draft assets to make it happen.

From the Knicks side this would probably more about Porzingis than giving up on Frank. If they are truly worried that Zinger won't sign his extension unless they have a better team around him they might be motivated to do something like this especially if they can clear some cap space so in a way the deal ends up being Frank for Bledsoe and what ever they able to sign with the money saved.
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#780 » by Mulhollanddrive » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:43 pm

Keep in mind length for position.

SG - Thompson
SF - Leonard
PF - Giannis / Porzingis
C - Gobert

None of them were thought of as that skillful when drafted, Ntilikina is the PG in that prototype.

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