Trade & Free Agency Ideas & Discussion 2

[Qwigglez]

Or we get called the most for fouls like we did this past season.

Booker got a couple superstar calls already this past season. Really love being on that end of the spectrum.

[AtheJ415]

I don't want Kyrie. He's great and all but for all of the people who have sat here and bashed the last 3 point guards we have had as ball stoppers and who want Rubio simply because he passes so much, you have to realize Kyrie is a black hole 1 on 1 point guard. He does not pass.

I am comfortable with our current direction and am not a fan of blowing it up to short cut a rebuild. Take Kyrie if he's there for a low ball offer, but trading our pick next year and both Miami picks is way too much imo. In fact, I think I'd rather have our next year's pick straight up even if it falls into the mid lottery for age and cap reasons.

In my supposed trade I had us trading our 2019 pick. If we still sucked by then (with the current roster) we might as well rebuild on our rebuild.
Also I believe Irving is a very capable passer, and may have more assists if he didn't have Lebron on his squad. Also he has a better assist to turnover rate than Bledsoe/Curry/Lillard/IT/Westbrook/Harden/Dragic.

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Our best players will still be 22 in 2019. I don't think our not contending at that point means anything. Also, the numbers don't lie. Irving has not been a capable passer going back to when Lebron was not there. It is a below average part of his game. His assist totals are really bad. A/T is not the only number to look at there. His assist % is particularly not good and is worse than Bledsoe's despite running a more structured and efficient offense. Harden's is damn near double his. Kyrie also has higher usage than both Bledsoe and Dragic. He gets the ball plenty despite Lebron being there.

[RunDogGun]

Or we get called the most for fouls like we did this past season.

Booker got a couple superstar calls already this past season. Really love being on that end of the spectrum.

But he also got a bunch of tricky-tacky calls as well. I would rather the refs be consistent then get some calls just because we have a young guy who scored 70 points in an NBA game. Overall, it would be best for the league, make things easier for coaches, and our youth can look up to the NBA as a place where rules matter and are enforced equally.

[JMac1]

Or we get called the most for fouls like we did this past season.

Booker got a couple superstar calls already this past season. Really love being on that end of the spectrum.

Exactly. If we want Booker to get better, love from the Refs wont hurt, but Love from the Cavs will.

[JMac1]

What was Stephen A talking about this morning when he said the Suns were interested in Love and Bledsoe going to the Cavs? Bledsoe is a better fit than Love at this time. What type of three-way trade would benefit us now?

[JJ13]

I'd like to see Ulis as starting PG. He was impressive last year and could make a bigger leap this year.

[Qwigglez]

Our best players will still be 22 in 2019. I don't think our not contending at that point means anything. Also, the numbers don't lie. Irving has not been a capable passer going back to when Lebron was not there. It is a below average part of his game. His assist totals are really bad. A/T is not the only number to look at there. His assist % is particularly not good and is worse than Bledsoe's despite running a more structured and efficient offense. Harden's is damn near double his. Kyrie also has higher usage than both Bledsoe and Dragic. He gets the ball plenty despite Lebron being there.

Kyrie turnovers were a lot higher before Lebron too. I wasn't suggesting Lebron takes the ball too much or Kyrie doesn't get the ball enough. I was trying to point Lebron takes away another shooter that could be on the court with Kyrie as I feel Lebron isn't a catch and shoot kind of player. I never considered Curry a good passer and even looking at his first 4 season in the league he had similar numbers to what Kyrie was posting up. In the right system Kyrie could easily put up 7-8 assist per night similar to what Curry does.

[Qwigglez]

What was Stephen A talking about this morning when he said the Suns were interested in Love and Bledsoe going to the Cavs? Bledsoe is a better fit than Love at this time. What type of three-way trade would benefit us now?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8kxgdeo

We give up Warren to the Pacers but instead of trading any Suns picks we just give up the 2 Miami picks, additionally, we still keep Josh Jackson. We also unburden Knight to the Pacers. Yes I know nobody wants Knight, but in this case why not? I'll tell you why, because Knight may be able to command the Pacers tank into a top 3 pick, so bam.

It also frees up the potential salary cap space that Warren was projected to get.

[rsavaj]

What was Stephen A talking about this morning when he said the Suns were interested in Love and Bledsoe going to the Cavs? Bledsoe is a better fit than Love at this time. What type of three-way trade would benefit us now?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8kxgdeo

We give up Warren to the Pacers but instead of trading any Suns picks we just give up the 2 Miami picks, additionally, we still keep Josh Jackson. We also unburden Knight to the Pacers. Yes I know nobody wants Knight, but in this case why not? I'll tell you why, because Knight may be able to command the Pacers tank into a top 3 pick, so bam.

It also frees up the potential salary cap space that Warren was projected to get.

I'd be very okay with that deal

[matt131]

What was Stephen A talking about this morning when he said the Suns were interested in Love and Bledsoe going to the Cavs? Bledsoe is a better fit than Love at this time. What type of three-way trade would benefit us now?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8kxgdeo

We give up Warren to the Pacers but instead of trading any Suns picks we just give up the 2 Miami picks, additionally, we still keep Josh Jackson. We also unburden Knight to the Pacers. Yes I know nobody wants Knight, but in this case why not? I'll tell you why, because Knight may be able to command the Pacers tank into a top 3 pick, so bam.

It also frees up the potential salary cap space that Warren was projected to get.

I'd be very okay with that deal

Wait is there any truth to that trade machine trade or is that just you coming up with ideas?

[Qwigglez]

Trade machine is just for fun.
Just adjusting the trade that was supposedly turned down on draft night where the Suns trade Bledsoe and #4 for Irving.

[Qwigglez]

This is hilarious.

[Kerrsed]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8kxgdeo

We give up Warren to the Pacers but instead of trading any Suns picks we just give up the 2 Miami picks, additionally, we still keep Josh Jackson. We also unburden Knight to the Pacers. Yes I know nobody wants Knight, but in this case why not? I'll tell you why, because Knight may be able to command the Pacers tank into a top 3 pick, so bam.

It also frees up the potential salary cap space that Warren was projected to get.

I'd be very okay with that deal

Wait is there any truth to that trade machine trade or is that just you coming up with ideas?

Its pretty much based on the deal that got David Griffin fired in Cleveland.

Supposedly he wanted to ship out Irving to the Suns (Along with Frye) and Cleveland would end up getting George and Bledsoe (Pacers were set to receive a package wrapped around our #4). Cavs owner was scared and rightfully so, because George and Lebron wont commit to resigning in 2019, so they could possibly walk and the Cavs would be left without their young budding all-star and be stuck with a crap roster headlined by Love.

If i was the Owner (In Cleveland), i would have put a stop to it as well.

[bwgood77]

I see the Qwigglez Spidey picture but hadn't seen the details posted..

The Houston Rockets have reached an agreement on a trade for LA Clippers All-Star point guard Chris Paul, sources told ESPN.

The Rockets will send Sam Dekker, Patrick Beverley and Lou Williams and a top-three protected 2018 first-round pick to the Clippers in exchange for Paul.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19758509/la-clippers-trade-chris-paul-houston-rockets

[JMac1]

Something is gonna happen with Bledsoe. He is a solid player with a good attitude and a competing team needs him. I'd be okay with getting a good pick and moving Knight and Chandler in receipt of some bad expiring contracts.

[BobbieL]

Barbosa is available if done by Friday - -waived by 7/3

send us Capela

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[AtheJ415]

Barbosa is available if done by Friday - -waived by 7/3

send us Capela

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Capela is their 3rd best player after Harden and Paul and is on a rookie deal. They would never include him. If they were willing to include him the Clippers would be demanding him.

Much more reasonable to ask for somebody like Harrell, but realistically it probably would be a straight up cash for player trade.

[gaspar]

Bogdan update:

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[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Bogdan update:

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As soon as Bogdan refused to come over last year, his rights became next-to-worthless. $12 mil per is at best a zero value contract, seems to me. Good riddance. Good, also, on his agent.

[rsavaj]

I think Bogdan's gonna be pretty good. Curious to see how Chriss, Bogdan and Skal develop over the next few years....seems we're not gonna know who won the Chriss trade until 2020ish