ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:bwgood77 wrote:ImNotMcDiSwear wrote: So instead of throwing another baby PG out there to drag down our squad or nail to the bench, can we please draft a player who can at least fit on our *current* depth chart, and worry about who will be the 2022-23 starting PG maybe, like, some time between now and two years from now?? I just don't get why people are so eager to gamble a lottery pick on a young player who hasn't shown **** like Lewis and Anthony. It's just such a gamble... And in addition to the pick, you have to throw out your current investments in Payne/Jerome/Carter to take them. It's just.... I hate the idea. I hope our FO does too. I'm guessing they do.
So you don't want to throw a baby PG out there now, but want to find one between now and 2 years from now to throw out with them? It's pretty rare you get a franchise type cornerstone PG (or any position for that matter) in FA or trade. So the best way to build is through the draft, like we have with most of our core.
But again, if it comes down to Toppin or Avidja vs a PG, yes, I go for the PF because I think a backup PG is pretty easy to find in FA or maybe trade. But I'd take Halliburton or Hayes over most all of the other options.
A cornerstone PG. Not a cornerstone anything else, we just need to get a cornerstone PG. And they gotta be young for some reason, to boot. I mean, what team has ever won anything with the young cornerstone PG they drafted? Who needs anything else?
WHY that? Why aren't good point guards good enough? Why is it star or bust, and what makes anyone think that Kira Lewis or Grant Riller will be that, but Reed or Pokusevski won't?
I don't care. It's fine. We're just in stark disagreement on this one. I want a player. If it's a star, I don't care what position it's at because a star is a star, and we'll make it work (or deal him for a star's ransom). No one in this draft projects as a star. Give me a useful player first and we'll go from there. Don't care what position--just not point guard, unless it's Haliburton, Ball or Hayes.
I don't expect a star out of this draft. I would be happy with a solid player. Of our young core we have added with our top picks, a SG, SF, SF, C (earlier two bust PFs and a bust SF). Our young core are wings and a C....a center that rebounds well enough to allow you to go a little smaller at PF....but we have 2-3 versatile SFs that can play 3 positions. We keep alternating backup PGs because we get walloped on the court without one.
We couldn't win more than 21 games after Bledsoe and before Rubio....and we are at our worst when Rubio sits.
I mention cornerstone PG is what I think we most want to look for (outside of PF) it's because I feel we have a cornerstone 2, 3 and 5...and backups at 2/3 and guys who CAN play the 4...of our under 25 guys.
But when I say cornerstone, yes "good" is good enough. Jerome, Carter, Okobo, etc, are not "good". Carter is a nice little pesky defender who can shoot, but he's not a guy that is a capable backup PG and obviously no future starter. He doesn't have the handle or court vision. The others might develop into something if they are around...but they didn't look too good so far...I know they are only 22 and 23, but not sure if you want to count on too much. I don't like to give up on anyone, but I do feel like it's our biggest current need...even though I'd prefer taking one of those two PFs I mentioned if there given we don't have a traditional PF under contract for sure going forward and I like their skill sets on offense.
