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NotTraxxe wrote:The twins, Plumlee, IT, Green, and Dragic are on the block.
The Suns are set keeping Wright/Len, Tucker, and Bledsoe.
They are not tied to Warren/Ennis/etc for the right deal.
We've put calls into Chicago, Houston, and Orlando I heard of.
Don't know anything else. And I won't know as much this year as in years' previous. The Suns are controlling what gets out at this juncture.
NotTraxxe wrote:The twins, Plumlee, IT, Green, and Dragic are on the block.
The Suns are set keeping Wright/Len, Tucker, and Bledsoe.
They are not tied to Warren/Ennis/etc for the right deal.
We've put calls into Chicago, Houston, and Orlando I heard of.
Don't know anything else. And I won't know as much this year as in years' previous. The Suns are controlling what gets out at this juncture.
NotTraxxe wrote:The twins, Plumlee, IT, Green, and Dragic are on the block.
The Suns are set keeping Wright/Len, Tucker, and Bledsoe.
They are not tied to Warren/Ennis/etc for the right deal.
We've put calls into Chicago, Houston, and Orlando I heard of.
Don't know anything else. And I won't know as much this year as in years' previous. The Suns are controlling what gets out at this juncture.
wonder if Tobias Harris is the target with Orlando. Seems like the type if high upside guy the suns want. Issue with him is some team might throw crazy money at him this offseason.NotTraxxe wrote:The twins, Plumlee, IT, Green, and Dragic are on the block.
The Suns are set keeping Wright/Len, Tucker, and Bledsoe.
They are not tied to Warren/Ennis/etc for the right deal.
We've put calls into Chicago, Houston, and Orlando I heard of.
Don't know anything else. And I won't know as much this year as in years' previous. The Suns are controlling what gets out at this juncture.
WeekapaugGroove wrote:wonder if Tobias Harris is the target with Orlando. Seems like the type if high upside guy the suns want. Issue with him is some team might throw crazy money at him this offseason.
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NotTraxxe wrote:The twins, Plumlee, IT, Green, and Dragic are on the block.
The Suns are set keeping Wright/Len, Tucker, and Bledsoe.
They are not tied to Warren/Ennis/etc for the right deal.
We've put calls into Chicago, Houston, and Orlando I heard of.
Don't know anything else. And I won't know as much this year as in years' previous. The Suns are controlling what gets out at this juncture.
NotTraxxe wrote:The twins, Plumlee, IT, Green, and Dragic are on the block.
The Suns are set keeping Wright/Len, Tucker, and Bledsoe.
They are not tied to Warren/Ennis/etc for the right deal.
We've put calls into Chicago, Houston, and Orlando I heard of.
Don't know anything else. And I won't know as much this year as in years' previous. The Suns are controlling what gets out at this juncture.
JDLAW wrote:NotTraxxe wrote:The twins, Plumlee, IT, Green, and Dragic are on the block.
The Suns are set keeping Wright/Len, Tucker, and Bledsoe.
They are not tied to Warren/Ennis/etc for the right deal.
We've put calls into Chicago, Houston, and Orlando I heard of.
Don't know anything else. And I won't know as much this year as in years' previous. The Suns are controlling what gets out at this juncture.
Sorry not buying this for a minute.
letsgosuns wrote:I think the Suns might be fed up with the Morris twins attitudes now. The organization can cover up all they want about the Marcus Morris incident not being a big deal or how Markieff blowing off reporters after the game is over with but I am not buying it. Not to mention their large amount of technical fouls. And more importantly, they are and always have been inconsistent. Some nights Markieff dominates his opponents like he did against the Cavaliers with 35 points. Other games like the previous two against the Grizzlies and Spurs, he gets dominated. 17 points and 6 rebounds against the Grizzlies while Randolph had 27 points and 17 rebounds. Then against the Spurs he had 3 points and 8 rebounds. It is hard to rely on him because you never know how he is going to play. Everybody saw Randolph abusing him literally the whole game against the Grizzlies and Randolph had just come back from injury. Markieff is not a good rebounder, not a good defender, and not all that athletic. He has a good mid range game and hits some clutch shots. I also remember last year he dominated Kevin Love when he was on the Wolves just like he dominated him this time. So while he was great this most recent game, I also remember how bad he was against the Spurs.
Bledsoe, Len, Tucker, and Wright are the Suns best defenders. It is not a coincidence those are the players Traxxe mentioned as being the untouchables. McDonough came from an organization that sported the best defense in the NBA for years. I can see him wanting to put together a team with a pure defensive mentality. That is not the makeup of the current roster.
I believe the team is treading water and they have two many low IQ players. I also think the Suns realize a three point guard lineup and probably even a dual point guard starting lineup is ridiculous and no way to win in this league. Sounds like they have already made a decision on which point guard they want to keep. I also gotta say this about Dragic. I know he is held in high regard by many fans and had a great year last year but he has not duplicated that success this year. At this point, you cannot really blame anyone else but him. He disappears too often for long stretches. Against the Cavaliers in the second half, I forgot he was even out there. He only had three points in the second half of that game. I personally would not give him anything close to a max deal and that is what he is probably going to get offered. He is the Suns most talented trade chip and the Suns do not want to let him go for nothing. Now I am not saying I want him off the team, I am just speaking rationally about the situation based on the circumstances and what I think might happen.
it's all how you interpret traxx message. I don't think anyone should be surprised plumlee, green, or IT are very available. Dragic and the twins are a little more surprising but **** at this point in the team building process ANYONE should be available for the right price if it makes the team better long term.ginobiliflops wrote:JDLAW wrote:NotTraxxe wrote:The twins, Plumlee, IT, Green, and Dragic are on the block.
The Suns are set keeping Wright/Len, Tucker, and Bledsoe.
They are not tied to Warren/Ennis/etc for the right deal.
We've put calls into Chicago, Houston, and Orlando I heard of.
Don't know anything else. And I won't know as much this year as in years' previous. The Suns are controlling what gets out at this juncture.
Sorry not buying this for a minute.
I don't either.
letsgosuns wrote:I think the Suns might be fed up with the Morris twins attitudes now. The organization can cover up all they want about the Marcus Morris incident not being a big deal or how Markieff blowing off reporters after the game is over with but I am not buying it. Not to mention their large amount of technical fouls. And more importantly, they are and always have been inconsistent. Some nights Markieff dominates his opponents like he did against the Cavaliers with 35 points. Other games like the previous two against the Grizzlies and Spurs, he gets dominated. 17 points and 6 rebounds against the Grizzlies while Randolph had 27 points and 17 rebounds. Then against the Spurs he had 3 points and 8 rebounds. It is hard to rely on him because you never know how he is going to play. Everybody saw Randolph abusing him literally the whole game against the Grizzlies and Randolph had just come back from injury. Markieff is not a good rebounder, not a good defender, and not all that athletic. He has a good mid range game and hits some clutch shots. I also remember last year he dominated Kevin Love when he was on the Wolves just like he dominated him this time. So while he was great this most recent game, I also remember how bad he was against the Spurs.
letsgosuns wrote:I think the Suns might be fed up with the Morris twins attitudes now. The organization can cover up all they want about the Marcus Morris incident not being a big deal or how Markieff blowing off reporters after the game is over with but I am not buying it. Not to mention their large amount of technical fouls. And more importantly, they are and always have been inconsistent. Some nights Markieff dominates his opponents like he did against the Cavaliers with 35 points. Other games like the previous two against the Grizzlies and Spurs, he gets dominated. 17 points and 6 rebounds against the Grizzlies while Randolph had 27 points and 17 rebounds. Then against the Spurs he had 3 points and 8 rebounds. It is hard to rely on him because you never know how he is going to play. Everybody saw Randolph abusing him literally the whole game against the Grizzlies and Randolph had just come back from injury. Markieff is not a good rebounder, not a good defender, and not all that athletic. He has a good mid range game and hits some clutch shots. I also remember last year he dominated Kevin Love when he was on the Wolves just like he dominated him this time. So while he was great this most recent game, I also remember how bad he was against the Spurs.
Bledsoe, Len, Tucker, and Wright are the Suns best defenders. It is not a coincidence those are the players Traxxe mentioned as being the untouchables. McDonough came from an organization that sported the best defense in the NBA for years. I can see him wanting to put together a team with a pure defensive mentality. That is not the makeup of the current roster.
I believe the team is treading water and they have two many low IQ players. I also think the Suns realize a three point guard lineup and probably even a dual point guard starting lineup is ridiculous and no way to win in this league. Sounds like they have already made a decision on which point guard they want to keep. I also gotta say this about Dragic. I know he is held in high regard by many fans and had a great year last year but he has not duplicated that success this year. At this point, you cannot really blame anyone else but him. He disappears too often for long stretches. Against the Cavaliers in the second half, I forgot he was even out there. He only had three points in the second half of that game. I personally would not give him anything close to a max deal and that is what he is probably going to get offered. He is the Suns most talented trade chip and the Suns do not want to let him go for nothing. Now I am not saying I want him off the team, I am just speaking rationally about the situation based on the circumstances and what I think might happen.
WeekapaugGroove wrote:it's all how you interpret traxx message. I don't think anyone should be surprised plumlee, green, or IT are very available. Dragic and the twins are a little more surprising but **** at this point in the team building process ANYONE should be available for the right price if it makes the team better long term.ginobiliflops wrote:JDLAW wrote:
Sorry not buying this for a minute.
I don't either.
As far as the teams: Chicago and Houston are the two most obvious Dragic destinations if they decide to move him. And Orlando has some young pieces the suns could covet.
Don't think anything he posted is that shocking. But I wouldn't interpret it as the suns are looking to give away the guys on the block.
Really it's after this crazy hard stretch of games the suns should make trade decisions. If they are still in it come the 1st week in February then maybe you make a win now move. But if they tailspin and get passed by the thunder then maybe it's time to punt on this year and make a move or two with next year in mind.
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Qwigglez wrote:
Agreed. IT/Morris bros/Green very low b-ball IQ.
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