lilfishi22 wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:BobbieL wrote:
Any interesting trade ideas
Actually pretty much all were incomplete or short of equitable value. And of course a lot of recieving teams fans showed their implicit biases by downplaying KDs potential value in trades as if he was Landry Shamet or Paul George on his current contract or something ridiculous like that!
Short of equitable value? The Rockets trade will get us 2 FRP and a swap plus Jabari/Reed and salary filler. Reed was the #3 pick so that's virtually a 3rd FRP. I think that's a very solid trade
Yes! Short of equitable value which should be obvious to most! So what if Sheppard was a top 5 pick, he hasn't shown much of anything during his time in the league so far, he's averaged what again? 4 points 1 rebound, 1 assist on 35% FG/ 33% 3 PT shooting, and had a 1.7 BPM and a 0.1 VORP.
By that logic that he has value because virtue of the fact that he's a # 3 pick, James Wiseman was a #2 pick, Patrick Williams was # 4, should we trade KD forva package with those players by virtue of pick range?
Johnny Davis was a top 10 lottery pick, Jalil Okafor a # 3 pick too, Alex Len was a top 5 pick, Dragan Bender a top 4 pick, Would you accept any of them as a quality value pieces by virtue of their draft range in a KD trade? you get the picture....right??
Throughout NBA history we've had countless high picks that never really turned out to contribute much, offered any measurable impact, or flat out busted and are out of the league already! Pick range does not substantiate value. Hence the popular phrase " The draft is a crapshoot"!!!
Sheppard was brought in to do one thing, SHOOT! AND SCORE!! and he can't even do that or hasn't shown that yet? His value is at best a 10 million salary filler not a positive value asset, maybe a neutral currently??
Landale is an end of bench big who couldn't score or do much of anything in out last game against them, and a pick swap!............really??
Which team do people really think will be worse down the road, rockets already a top 2 team with an elite defense, and now adding KD, or us giving up KD, only having Booker and some young pieces when we couldn't even make the play in with our big three.
Now we're giving up the best player in the trade and losing not only a HOF elite level impact player, but almost triple double efficiency and the gravity he commanded to keep double and triple teams off of Booker most nights. Who exactly do we pick up that's really going to help replace that output/ impact??
So giving up a pick swap would obviously only return value back to Houston in getting a very likely better pick than whatever there's would be in that swap year. That swap then reduces the overall return value of that KD trade.
Why should Houston get a " best of pick outcome (swap) when we're the team giving up the best asset in the deal and obviously going to get worse in the immediate future by virtue of lost production/ impact?
Which of course would benefit Houston greatly with that swap? Did we learn nothing yet about the potential damage of pick swaps given our current outcome ??Surely upon further reflection you and those that agreed with you here can see this right?? The only real value we're actually getting here would be D Brooks as a defensive agitator, Smith Jr as a young floor spacing 3 & D forward and the 2 picks.
But a pick swap basically returns that value of one of those picks by virtue of us obviously being much worse than a top 2 playoff team adding KD in the coming years, so they'd get the much higher pick!
And Sheppard is so far just unrealized potential on very disappointing production and efficiency that may or MAY NOT ever pan out??? We HAVE TO nail every move from here on out to avoid a very long painful rebuild sooner rather than later!
This trade falls short of equitable value. Take out the pick swap altogether and switch Sheppard with Eason or Whitmore and then it's solid and equitable for sure by comparison.
