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Re: Preseason: Spurs @ Suns 

Post#81 » by phrazbit » Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:45 pm

BurningHeart wrote:Hey Sarver, Suns fans don't give a **** about not seeing those piddly ass, fugly, thug Spur jabronis. In fact, we love any time we bludgeon their bitchmade team.

No need to apologize. Just sit down and shut up.


Jesus... seriously, if this was an owner of another franchise and he was calling out the Spurs for this BS that they've repeatedly pulled people would here would be lauding it and popping off on Sarver for being cheap and not having the guts to do something like that. Sarver does it... and people rag on him anyway.
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Re: Preseason: Spurs @ Suns 

Post#82 » by BurningHeart » Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:53 pm

I'm not ragging or bagging Sarver. I don't give a ****.

The point of my post was to convey my hatred of the Spurs.
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Re: Preseason: Spurs @ Suns 

Post#83 » by JMac1 » Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:13 pm

phrazbit wrote:
BurningHeart wrote:Hey Sarver, Suns fans don't give a **** about not seeing those piddly ass, fugly, thug Spur jabronis. In fact, we love any time we bludgeon their bitchmade team.

No need to apologize. Just sit down and shut up.


Jesus... seriously, if this was an owner of another franchise and he was calling out the Spurs for this BS that they've repeatedly pulled people would here would be lauding it and popping off on Sarver for being cheap and not having the guts to do something like that. Sarver does it... and people rag on him anyway.



I wish you would not quote him. I have him on ignore so I don't have to read his played out garbage mouth comments :nonono:
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Re: Preseason: Spurs @ Suns 

Post#84 » by phrazbit » Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:20 pm

BurningHeart wrote:I'm not ragging or bagging Sarver. I don't give a ****.

The point of my post was to convey my hatred of the Spurs.


Which is why you told Sarver to "sit down and shut up"?

If your point was to convey your hate of the Spurs then you should be proud of your owner publicly calling them out on their garbage.
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Re: Preseason: Spurs @ Suns 

Post#85 » by Jdiddy701 » Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:53 pm

If Suns gave tickets away for downloading the mobile app from yesterday's game, do you think we can mail those in too?


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Re: Preseason: Spurs @ Suns 

Post#86 » by BurningHeart » Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:35 am

phrazbit wrote:
BurningHeart wrote:I'm not ragging or bagging Sarver. I don't give a ****.

The point of my post was to convey my hatred of the Spurs.


Which is why you told Sarver to "sit down and shut up"?

If your point was to convey your hate of the Spurs then you should be proud of your owner publicly calling them out on their garbage.


You can look at it that way, no problem with that at all.

Personally, I'd rather it go unacknowledged and let the result speak and do it again and again and again and again when it matters.
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Re: Preseason: Spurs @ Suns 

Post#87 » by Cicero » Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:15 am

It's all bull anyway. Everyone knows the preseason is meaningless and meant for roster tinkering and experimentation. It's in the name, like, it's the specific purpose of the PRE-season. If you complain about entertainment standards in the PREseason, you're essentially creating the need for a PRE-preseason where teams can practice and prep and play basketball without expectations or pressure yet...because you're a really dumb person and easily manipulated by the NBA owners (like all the people who side against the players in labor disputes because apparently the proper reaction to spoiled pro athletes is giving more money and power to the owners, lol).
Like, why not point a finger back at Sarver and go:
"Hey buddy, you're the owner of an NBA team, you are therefore (I imagine) thoroughly aware of the established trivial preparatory purpose of the NBA preseason and yet you still feel pretty comfortable about charging X and Y for preseason tickets. It is SUPPOSED to be an inferior product, it is the product BEFORE the actual product. I mean, I know you feel SO guilty. :roll: "
Do you get what I'm trying to say here? They inferior nature of the product is established, inherent, commenting on it and highlighting it is just a clever distracting ploy, if you really feel so bleeding heart about it then don't charge as much for this thing that is known and MEANT to be an inferior product because it's the PRE-season not the SEASON.
I don't know if that conveys it well. I'm trying to say he's basically just manufacturing a farce. It's meaningless. Fairy dust. Not actually a thing. I'd nearly call it cynical if it weren't such a throwaway gesture no one will talk about in a week's time.

Dude's not some random new NBA fan on the internet, he knows the preseason is utterly meaningless and meant to finetune rosters, it's hilarious that people actually buy his weepy fan-pandering shtick and artificial attention-seeking. This is a total non-issue (ditto: "tanking" :roll: ) and the dude knows it as does anyone familiar with the NBA. It's only a meaningful statement or gesture to people dumb enough to miss that important fact.
It's a great deflective move from him though, man these owners are a devious clever bunch.
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Re: Preseason: Spurs @ Suns 

Post#88 » by jcsunsfan » Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:01 pm

Pop does this in the regular season too. Its just Sarver's way of pointing it out. I cannot understand why people would rip him for this. Ticket prices are high to begin with. Then they charge full price for meaningless preseason game. The team promotes the preseason game by telling people they can come see Duncan, Manu, etc. Then they just choose not to come. Yeah its just preaseason, but its also a culmination of things that anyone selling a product should be concerned about. In Sarver's mind, the game did not provide appropriate value for the ticket buyers, so he is trying to make it right.

You buy a steak at a nice restaurant and it comes out so-so. The owner walks by your table and gets concerned. He says that the meal he is looking at is not up to his restaurant's standards and he comps you the meal. You do not walk out of the restaurant complaining about what an arrogant SOB he is.

At some point you should just say, "Hey, great, thanks. I was not expecting it, but good on you!"
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Re: Preseason: Spurs @ Suns 

Post#89 » by jcsunsfan » Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:02 pm

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Re: Preseason: Spurs @ Suns 

Post#90 » by Cicero » Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:19 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:Pop does this in the regular season too. Its just Sarver's way of pointing it out. I cannot understand why people would rip him for this. Ticket prices are high to begin with. Then they charge full price for meaningless preseason game. The team promotes the preseason game by telling people they can come see Duncan, Manu, etc. Then they just choose not to come. Yeah its just preaseason, but its also a culmination of things that anyone selling a product should be concerned about. In Sarver's mind, the game did not provide appropriate value for the ticket buyers, so he is trying to make it right.

You buy a steak at a nice restaurant and it comes out so-so. The owner walks by your table and gets concerned. He says that the meal he is looking at is not up to his restaurant's standards and he comps you the meal. You do not walk out of the restaurant complaining about what an arrogant SOB he is.

At some point you should just say, "Hey, great, thanks. I was not expecting it, but good on you!"

I like how you don't attribute any agency or responsibility to the guy charging full price tickets for something you concede is meaningless and trivial. Sarver, the owner of the team, who is completely aware of the fact that the preseason is meaningless and still charges full price. Poor powerless Sarver. :( This is exactly the type of clueless attitude that results in every NBA labor dispute swinging pro-owner and people raising "tanking" as an actual issue.
Go after players and coaches for time management in the PRESEASON instead, lol. :lol: THAT'S the target!

Your analogy is totally off too! Not up to his restaurant's standards? It's the preseason! There are no standards!
That's why the preseason exists, tinkering and no-pressure/expectation basketball! If we remove that, then it's no longer the preseason and we'll need a prepreseason where people can do **** like this without attention-seeking whining. :lol:

It's more like you guys come to his restaurant during the "limited discount buffet", but he charges you full price for it and then blames everyone but himself when the food is sub-par, the guy who charged full price for the discount buffet. Get this: Maybe he shouldn't be charging full price for the discount buffet? He KNOWS it's the discount buffet, he owns the restaurant, this is no surprise to him. He just gets to look good by giving you a refund for the **** food you just ate.
Going to a preseason game is not ordering steak. :crazy: :lol:
It's a great deflective fan-pandering move on his part though, he's a smart man. I mean, look at you, you've totally swallowed it.

Like I said:
Dude's not some random new NBA fan on the internet, he knows the preseason is utterly meaningless and meant to finetune rosters, it's hilarious that people actually buy his weepy fan-pandering shtick and artificial attention-seeking. This is a total non-issue (ditto: "tanking" :roll: ) and the dude knows it as does anyone familiar with the NBA. It's only a meaningful statement or gesture to people dumb enough to miss that important fact.

Like I said, man the owners are really good at okiedoking sheep. I'm not just including Sarver there, all the owners.
You can't just go "yeah it's just preseason" and then keep going with your flawed argument. It ends there. Do you get what I'm saying? You can't just run past that and keep talking. That's the end. It's just the preseason. There's no "and" or "but" afterwards, that's the bullet that kills your argument. It's like arguing about whether or not the earth is round or flat and starting your argument off with "Yeah the world is round, but" as a flat-earther. :lol:

Yeah. It's. Just. Preseason.

The end.



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Gregg Popovich responded Saturday to Robert Sarver, who grabbed a mic late in Thursday’s exhibition game to apologize to the Phoenix Suns' home crowd after five San Antonio Spurs players missed the game.

“As I said, the silliness begins," Popovich said. "Most wise individuals would check facts before they made statements. Unless you’re interested in putting on a show. In that case, the facts get in your way, as in this case.

“We had five guys we didn’t send: Patty Mills had a shoulder operation. Tiago Splitter has been out the whole preseason. Kawhi Leonard was out and is still out for 10 more days. The other two, Duncan and Ginobili, are two of the oldest guys in the league who just came back from a 13-day European trip.

“The only thing that surprises me is that he didn’t say it in a chicken suit. I’ll just leave it at that.”
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Re: Preseason: Spurs @ Suns 

Post#91 » by nevetsov » Sun Oct 19, 2014 3:43 am

From someone who was at the game, I would suggest that Sarver was speaking specifically to the potential sixth man (season ticket/ loyalty members) candidates that were invited to this game. This was the game where the sales team was out in full force, pulling out all the stops to impress the clientele and attempting locking them into a full season commitment. They wanted this one to be picture perfect - strong rivalry, intensity, close win. By conceding this one, the Spurs probably cost him more in season revenue before the tip even happened. I'd be pissed too, but I guess it was stupid to put all your eggs into this basket in the first place.

I got free tickets from downloading the app, but you bet I'll be sending them in.
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Re: Preseason: Spurs @ Suns 

Post#92 » by nevetsov » Sun Oct 19, 2014 3:46 am

^ I should explain that the sixth man folk were treated to pregame canapés, drinks, as well as the opportunity to check out all the different seating options and views. Pulled out all the stops.
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Re: Preseason: Spurs @ Suns 

Post#93 » by Purch » Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:18 am

Pop's reply

“As I said, the silliness begins,” he said. “Most wise individuals would check facts before they made statements. Unless you’re interested in putting on a show. In that case, the facts get in your way, as in this case.

“We had five guys we didn’t send. Patty Mills had a shoulder operation over the summer. Tiago Splitter (calf) has been out the whole preseason. Kawhi Leonard (eye infection) was out and is still out for 10 more days. The other two, Duncan and Ginobili, are two of the oldest guys in the league who just came back from a 13-day European trip.

“The only thing that surprises me is that he didn’t say it in a chicken suit. I’ll just leave it at that.”
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Re: Preseason: Spurs @ Suns 

Post#94 » by Moochthemonkey » Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:39 am

Cicero wrote:Yeah. It's. Just. Preseason.

The end.



Then why are you writing 300 paragraphs concerning the issue? no one cares that much, take it easy dude.
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Re: Preseason: Spurs @ Suns 

Post#95 » by Revived » Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:00 am

This win doesn't mean much, we played against a Spurs team that hardly looked NBA caliber. They weren't even coached by an NBA head coach. This was like a summer league game.

Lot of folks applauding for Pop's response to Sarver's little stunt and saying "This is why Pop and the Spurs are successful and the Spurs and why the Suns are the Suns".

Not the kind of publicity we are going for, I'm sure.
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Re: Preseason: Spurs @ Suns 

Post#96 » by Cicero » Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:56 pm

Moochthemonkey wrote:
Cicero wrote:Yeah. It's. Just. Preseason.

The end.



Then why are you writing 300 paragraphs concerning the issue? no one cares that much, take it easy dude.

You've got like, 823 posts bro ( :lol: ), don't pull that cliche "tl-dr effortpost I'm an internet coolguy bruh" bull lol. It's basketball, we discuss basketball on this internet forum site for discussing basketball, I felt like mocking people for their fixation on a triviality. Sorry I wrote too much for you lol, take it easy dude, I'm done. This whole thing was Sarver just trying to get attention/publicity, and well, look, he did.

SF88 wrote:This win doesn't mean much, we played against a Spurs team that hardly looked NBA caliber. They weren't even coached by an NBA head coach. This was like a summer league game.

Lot of folks applauding for Pop's response to Sarver's little stunt and saying "This is why Pop and the Spurs are successful and the Spurs and why the Suns are the Suns".

Not the kind of publicity we are going for, I'm sure.

Well, it's because everyone suddenly remembered that three out of the five players that missed the game were actually legitimate previously (and still) injured. And the other two are basically a thousand years old.


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Re: Preseason: Spurs @ Suns 

Post#97 » by RaisingArizona » Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:59 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:Pop does this in the regular season too. Its just Sarver's way of pointing it out. I cannot understand why people would rip him for this. Ticket prices are high to begin with. Then they charge full price for meaningless preseason game. The team promotes the preseason game by telling people they can come see Duncan, Manu, etc. Then they just choose not to come. Yeah its just preaseason, but its also a culmination of things that anyone selling a product should be concerned about. In Sarver's mind, the game did not provide appropriate value for the ticket buyers, so he is trying to make it right.

You buy a steak at a nice restaurant and it comes out so-so. The owner walks by your table and gets concerned. He says that the meal he is looking at is not up to his restaurant's standards and he comps you the meal. You do not walk out of the restaurant complaining about what an arrogant SOB he is.

At some point you should just say, "Hey, great, thanks. I was not expecting it, but good on you!"


Agreed. Looks like you ruffled some 'Sterns' feathers on their 30 point loss. Get used to it, Sterns, it's all downhill from here.
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Re: Preseason: Spurs @ Suns 

Post#98 » by RunDogGun » Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:54 pm

Moochthemonkey wrote:
Cicero wrote:Yeah. It's. Just. Preseason.

The end.



Then why are you writing 300 paragraphs concerning the issue? no one cares that much, take it easy dude.


I was thinking the same thing. My favorite part was him quoting himself from two post earlier. :lol:
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Re: Preseason: Spurs @ Suns 

Post#99 » by Frank Lee » Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:04 am

whether or not it matters to us fans, it certainly fuels more dislike between Sarver and Pop. This has been a long standing smite from the days of the chicken dance and foam finger....and its not over. Its genuine.
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