Official Trade Thread: New Year, New Thread, New Laughs

[Frank Lee]

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Now that is an offensive team!!! And a dream

of·fen·sive
adjective
adjective: offensive

(of a sight or smell) disgusting; repulsive.
"an offensive odor"
synonyms: unpleasant, disagreeable, nasty, distasteful, displeasing, objectionable, off-putting, awful, terrible, dreadful, frightful, obnoxious, abominable, disgusting, repulsive, repellent, repugnant, revolting, abhorrent, loathsome, detestable, odious, vile, foul, sickening, nauseating;

keep it real Kj or at least semi palatable



Of all these trades/potentials mentioned, it seems Brook Lopez would be a likely due to his availability and need filling skill set. If we could somehow land him w/o giving up the Plum, it would certainly be beneficial to our front line. I would imagine the FO would have to believe he could play some along side of Len and/or Plum. I'll try one....
To Boston : IT / Randolf / 3mill / 2nd
To Brooklyn : BWright / AGoodwin / 1st
To Phoenix : BLopez

That said, the simple deal is for BWright for AGoodwin / 1st.

There is little doubt Ainge will move Wright, and there is almost certainty that McDo has Horsetrader Danny on speed dial. Low risk move on our part, but I'm Doubting Thomas will be needed/wanted to be in the deal. If I am Ainge, I'm asking for Warren instead of AGood.

If Cleve gets desperate for a big(they are/will be), they can swap Waiters. I think he may trump what we have to offer.

Its been said a youngster and a pick = the Price is Wright.


PS.... ugh on any Jordan deal. Would much rather let Len develop into the starting C role as envisioned

[Andrew McCeltic]

C's fan here.. We know Ainge likes Thomas, or liked him. We also know he likes first-rounders. Wright for IT, or for a 1st.. Green for IT.. Green/Wright for IT/1st/filler.. I could see any of those working. I think there'll be a market for Wright, though- a career year big, very available, cheap enough to be low risk.. (Our board hates Waiters, FWIW, although I'm a fan- and Ainge has been reported to have interest in the past).

Don't understand the Brook Lopez fascination you guys have- he's a constant injury problem..

[RunDogGun]

C's fan here.. We know Ainge likes Thomas, or liked him. We also know he likes first-rounders. Wright for IT, or for a 1st.. Green for IT.. Green/Wright for IT/1st/filler.. I could see any of those working. I think there'll be a market for Wright, though- a career year big, very available, cheap enough to be low risk.. (Our board hates Waiters, FWIW, although I'm a fan- and Ainge has been reported to have interest in the past).

Don't understand the Brook Lopez fascination you guys have- he's a constant injury problem..

I watched most of the Dallas vs Celts game last night, and really watched Wright to see if he is our missing big. And I was just unimpressed. I would think he would go at Dallas like Rondowent at the Celts, but he just looked like he went through the motions. Tyler looked good,and it was a bummer he didn't get more passes. That dude got himself wide open at least six times, right under the basket.

Overall, it just seems like the whole Celts team lacks plays, and good ball movement.

As for your trades, they aren't bad at all, but I still feel we need a mentor big for Len.

[Andrew McCeltic]

C's fan here.. We know Ainge likes Thomas, or liked him. We also know he likes first-rounders. Wright for IT, or for a 1st.. Green for IT.. Green/Wright for IT/1st/filler.. I could see any of those working. I think there'll be a market for Wright, though- a career year big, very available, cheap enough to be low risk.. (Our board hates Waiters, FWIW, although I'm a fan- and Ainge has been reported to have interest in the past).

Don't understand the Brook Lopez fascination you guys have- he's a constant injury problem..

I watched most of the Dallas vs Celts game last night, and really watched Wright to see if he is our missing big. And I was just unimpressed. I would think he would go at Dallas like Rondowent at the Celts, but he just looked like he went through the motions. Tyler looked good,and it was a bummer he didn't get more passes. That dude got himself wide open at least six times, right under the basket.

Overall, it just seems like the whole Celts team lacks plays, and good ball movement.

As for your trades, they aren't bad at all, but I still feel we need a mentor big for Len.

Ball movement is usually a strength- our team assist average is good- I wouldn't judge by a single game against a contending team.. Zeller has been a huge pick up, and adding muscle this summer did a ton for his game. Great at offensive and defensive positioning, as one of our posters pointed out when we traded for him.

I'm not sure what to make of Wright- remember he doesn't know any of the team's sets very well, and hasn't been getting consistent minutes. It's obvious his numbers were inflated by that Dallas group's chemistry, but I think it shows he can excel in the right situation. I'm hoping his stock stays high because of his beginning to the year as a Maverick, but in this rag-tag Boston lineup, so far he's looked like what he was earlier in his career- a dime a dozen bench big.

[Andrew McCeltic]

I only say that because we're on PretendGM. In reality I hope Boston trades him for Thomas or that he blossoms in our lineup once he knows the system..

[RunDogGun]

I only say that because we're on PretendGM. In reality I hope Boston trades him for Thomas or that he blossoms in our lineup once he knows the system..

His effort was lacking. It wasn't so much not knowing the plays(if they run any, didn't seem like it last night), or the players. He should really know the Dallas bigs well, and he should have out hustled them.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Maybe... To be fair, he just went from a contender to a lotto team, and he's a pending free agent who was excelling in Dallas- so I don't blame him for being a little demoralized.. And I don't know how much he "hustled" as a Maverick- he's got a kind of cat-like vibe where he'd wander around and then suddenly explode to the rim..

[Bogyo]

Maybe... To be fair, he just went from a contender to a lotto team, and he's a pending free agent who was excelling in Dallas- so I don't blame him for being a little demoralized.. And I don't know how much he "hustled" as a Maverick- he's got a kind of cat-like vibe where he'd wander around and then suddenly explode to the rim..

Plus if you add the fact that he probably expects to be traded again in a month or so, while his current team is trying to give playing the youngsters in his position. Easy to understand why he is not busting his balls off. We wouldn't need him to be our starting C, just a solid bench guy to rebound and do the dirty work around the basket, and get some veteran help to Len to improve his game...

[Saberestar]

I know that Larry Sanders is not a very coachable player, he likes weed, he has issues on and off the court....but he is available like never ever has been in this league. Any interest? I think I would pass, but he WAS exactly the type of C that we need here.

[Andrew McCeltic]

I know that Larry Sanders is not a very coachable player, he likes weed, he has issues on and off the court....but he is available like never ever has been in this league. Any interest? I think I would pass, but he WAS exactly the type of C that we need here.

Huge risk, IMO. From Boston, I'd trade Gerald Wallace and an asset (Sullinger, maybe) for him. But this summer's going to be drowning in decent centers, in the draft and in free agency.. You could probably extract something from MIL just to take his money off their hands..

[MalonesElbows]

Would the Suns entertain trading Thomas? It seems you have another PG that can't get any minutes (Ennis). Any of these could probably be had:

Kanter
Burke
Hood
Future 1st (doubtfully this years though)

[gaspar]

Player A - 7.5 pts, 6.6 reb, 1.6 blk, .493 TS% in 23.4 minutes
Player B - 6.9 pts, 6.9 reb, 2.6 blk, .576 TS% in 21.7 minutes

Player A is Larry Sanders over the last 2 seasons, Player B is Alex Len as a starter this year. Len is 5 years younger than Sanders. This is all I have to say about this matter.

[Bogyo]

Would the Suns entertain trading Thomas? It seems you have another PG that can't get any minutes (Ennis). Any of these could probably be had:

Kanter
Burke
Hood
Future 1st (doubtfully this years though)

Out of this pile I'd likely have the first pls. But I'm not too excited, plus that would put you confortably ahead of the Lakers, so we might shoot ourselves in the foot. Pass...

[carey]

Player A - 7.5 pts, 6.6 reb, 1.6 blk, .493 TS% in 23.4 minutes
Player B - 6.9 pts, 6.9 reb, 2.6 blk, .576 TS% in 21.7 minutes

Player A is Larry Sanders over the last 2 seasons, Player B is Alex Len as a starter this year. Len is 5 years younger than Sanders. This is all I have to say about this matter.

And boom goes the dynamite.

[toucansma]

I know that Larry Sanders is not a very coachable player, he likes weed, he has issues on and off the court....but he is available like never ever has been in this league. Any interest? I think I would pass, but he WAS exactly the type of C that we need here.

So Michael Beasley #2?

[NavLDO]

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Now that is an offensive team!!! And a dream

of·fen·sive
adjective
adjective: offensive

(of a sight or smell) disgusting; repulsive.
"an offensive odor"
synonyms: unpleasant, disagreeable, nasty, distasteful, displeasing, objectionable, off-putting, awful, terrible, dreadful, frightful, obnoxious, abominable, disgusting, repulsive, repellent, repugnant, revolting, abhorrent, loathsome, detestable, odious, vile, foul, sickening, nauseating;

keep it real Kj or at least semi palatable



Of all these trades/potentials mentioned, it seems Brook Lopez would be a likely due to his availability and need filling skill set. If we could somehow land him w/o giving up the Plum, it would certainly be beneficial to our front line. I would imagine the FO would have to believe he could play some along side of Len and/or Plum. I'll try one....
To Boston : IT / Randolf / 3mill / 2nd
To Brooklyn : BWright / AGoodwin / 1st
To Phoenix : BLopez

That said, the simple deal is for BWright for AGoodwin / 1st.

There is little doubt Ainge will move Wright, and there is almost certainty that McDo has Horsetrader Danny on speed dial. Low risk move on our part, but I'm Doubting Thomas will be needed/wanted to be in the deal. If I am Ainge, I'm asking for Warren instead of AGood.

If Cleve gets desperate for a big(they are/will be), they can swap Waiters. I think he may trump what we have to offer.

Its been said a youngster and a pick = the Price is Wright.


PS.... ugh on any Jordan deal. Would much rather let Len develop into the starting C role as envisioned

So Frank, you'd rather trade for a broken down C in Lopez or a backup PF in BWright, but don't want Jordan? No thanks in overpaying for Lopez, and while Wright would be ok, he wouldn't solve our problem in upgrading Plumlee. Wright would be a "nice to have"...a guy that could get some minutes at the 4 in backing up Kieff and/or Mook.

But Jordan would give us a presence in the paint that right now, only Len gives us consistently. If we could pair up Jordan and Len, meaning have one backing up the other, we'd have a force in the middle that isn't there when Len is off the court, and I don't think Lopez or Wright can give us the level of play that Jordan can give us. Again, Lopez is always hurt, and has missed upwards of 80+ games in the past 2 and a half seasons, and almost missed all of the '11/'12 season to boot. He's never been much of a rebounder, and is mostly an offensive minded Center.

All that said, I'm fine with not getting Jordan, but it sure would be nice to get a defensive presence in the paint outside of Len, because right now, we don't have it--at least consistently--with Plumlee.

[RunDogGun]

Maybe... To be fair, he just went from a contender to a lotto team, and he's a pending free agent who was excelling in Dallas- so I don't blame him for being a little demoralized.. And I don't know how much he "hustled" as a Maverick- he's got a kind of cat-like vibe where he'd wander around and then suddenly explode to the rim..

I didn't say he sucked, just wasn't impressed. What I saw of him in Dallas, he played with more intensity. Maybe it's going from a good team to bad team, but one would think he would try to earn a starting job on that bad team?

Would the Suns entertain trading Thomas? It seems you have another PG that can't get any minutes (Ennis). Any of these could probably be had:

Kanter
Burke
Hood
Future 1st (doubtfully this years though)

Kanter would be interesting.

[Frank Lee]

Yup NavLo... would much rather have BLo ... injury bug be damned. He'd be a top notch C off the bench. People forget how effective he was before being derailed. Good mentor for Len as well. BTW, we do have a pretty decent med staff. Keep BLo healthy and he would pay even bigger dividends next yr than either Wright or Jordan, who both will be FA's.

BLo is miles ahead of all three of them skill wise. May be a high risk pick up, but could be a very high reward. Roll the dice on this former all star.

[thamadkant]

Brook Lopez + Alex Len front court covers both offense and defense... Not to mention massive size.

And of course Brook Lopez can come off the bench too for minutes.

Rather see some post plays than the continuous reliance on jacking 3s and long 2s.

DeAndre Jordan is looking for max contract something to the tune of 75 million plus for 4 years.... If Suns couldn't justify 15 million for Marion back in the days when he was putting up 21-11-2-1.5-1.5.... How could you justify that much money on a player you can't put in close games as he is a sub-40% FT shooter. Clippers are balking on maxing him for a reason.

At 12-13 million (max) a year, wouldn't mind DeAndre.

Lopez can be resigned way cheaper too due to his injury history... But Suns staff can make him relatively healthy I'm confident.

[youngthegiant]

Posted earlier but what would you guys want for Warren. Would you pull the trigger on a mozgov for Warren swap?