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College basketball and 2017 draft - One more poll after last game

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If we have the 1st or 2nd pick, and take Ball, how will you feel

Feel VERY good about the pick
7
17%
OK with the pick
14
34%
Not particularly happy with it
8
20%
Pissed
9
22%
OK at 2, but at one 1 am not happy and will explain this pick in thread
3
7%
 
Total votes: 41

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Post#81 » by DirtyDez » Sat Sep 17, 2016 6:12 pm

Fischella wrote:Come on how in hell is Rawle declaring? he doesnt like a OAD at all


It was 50/50 he'd declare for college and still needs to keep it up during the season. Kids that aren't ready declare for the NBA every year.
fromthetop321 wrote:I got Lebron number 1, he is also leading defensive player of the year. Curry's game still reminds me of Jeremy Lin to much.
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Post#83 » by DirtyDez » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:06 pm

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P12 is lit this year. Just looking at DX...

Fultz
Markkanen
Trier
Ball (who I think will dominate right away)
Rabb

Then you have a lot of fringe NBA guys at Arizona and Oregon and UCLA. Washington and Arizona already have the #1 and #2 player for 2018 already... I think ASU will be much improved as well.
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Post#85 » by DirtyDez » Sat Oct 1, 2016 7:57 pm

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fromthetop321 wrote:I got Lebron number 1, he is also leading defensive player of the year. Curry's game still reminds me of Jeremy Lin to much.
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Post#86 » by ATTL » Sat Oct 1, 2016 8:26 pm

I don't know what prospect level to really pay attention to, we could be drafting anywhere from 1-14.
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Post#87 » by Justwar » Mon Oct 3, 2016 1:10 am

Derek willis will be available in the second rd since you guys love your ky guys
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Post#89 » by ATTL » Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:00 pm

Bam
Ball
Thomas Bryant
For late lotto picks, BPA regardless of position. Maybe not a shooting guard.
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Post#90 » by kennydorglas » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:20 pm

I want Josh Jackson
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Post#92 » by ATTL » Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:29 am

BPA but we appear to be good from 2-4 for the future. Need better pg an center.
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Re: Early look at 2017 draft & college basketball 

Post#93 » by kennydorglas » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:19 pm

ATTL wrote:BPA but we appear to be good from 2-4 for the future. Need better pg an center.


PG is super stacked this year.

Bolden is a freaking mammoth, Bam is super raw but he can get UPPPPP, same with Jarrett Allen.
I guess my favorite guy is Jeanne tho... GOBERT style.
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Post#94 » by bwgood77 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:35 pm

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ATTL wrote:BPA but we appear to be good from 2-4 for the future. Need better pg an center.


PG is super stacked this year.

Bolden is a freaking mammoth, Bam is super raw but he can get UPPPPP, same with Jarrett Allen.
I guess my favorite guy is Jeanne tho... GOBERT style.


It's too bad we don't have our own pick and the Lakers pick this year. :nonono: I guess there is a pretty good chance it is protected again, but to have two possible top 5 or 7 picks in this draft would have been great.
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Post#95 » by kennydorglas » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:46 pm

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ATTL wrote:BPA but we appear to be good from 2-4 for the future. Need better pg an center.


PG is super stacked this year.

Bolden is a freaking mammoth, Bam is super raw but he can get UPPPPP, same with Jarrett Allen.
I guess my favorite guy is Jeanne tho... GOBERT style.


It's too bad we don't have our own pick and the Lakers pick this year. :nonono: I guess there is a pretty good chance it is protected again, but to have two possible top 5 or 7 picks in this draft would have been great.


Yeah, I think it'll be protected again but it's hard for me to root for the Lakers to win anything.
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Post#96 » by Damkac » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:48 pm

Frank Ntilikina is the youngest guy in this draft right? Maybe McD will try this tactic 3rd time in a row?
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Post#97 » by kennydorglas » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:56 pm

Damkac wrote:Frank Ntilikina is the youngest guy in this draft right? Maybe McD will try this tactic 3rd time in a row?


Yeahhh
All the Rubio lovers are going to love this guy.
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Post#98 » by bwgood77 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:17 pm

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Damkac wrote:Frank Ntilikina is the youngest guy in this draft right? Maybe McD will try this tactic 3rd time in a row?


Yeahhh
All the Rubio lovers are going to love this guy.


Well, I first and foremost want a true floor general and distributor. I haven't seen enough of Markelle Fultz or Dennis Smith to judge, but when I mostly read about Fultz and Smith is their ability to attack the rim and score, and I see mention of combo guard, etc, it leaves me a little concerned we'd end up with another guy who values scoring over passing and getting others involved.

When I read this about Ntilikina, it sounds pretty damn good to me.

Frank Ntilikina, 6'5, Strasbourg, France, 1998

Jonathan Givony

Strengths:
-Has excellent size for a point guard at 6'5, to go along with a nice frame and a very long wingspan (possibly close to 7-feet).
-Plays with terrific pace. Never looks rushed. Has the ball on a string. Knows when to speed up and when to slow down. Has outstanding potential on the pick and roll.
-Terrific passer with exquisite court vision. Distributes in many different ways. Constantly looking to find open man. Extremely unselfish.
-Seems to be making progress with his outside shot. Knocked down jumpers all camp long, particularly shooting off the dribble. Shooting 85% from the free throw line this season, which is encouraging.
-Multi-positional defender. Has excellent tools to lock down either guard spot with size and length, but also puts great pride in his work on this end of the floor. Can put strong pressure on the ball. Does a great job of staying in front.
-Gets blocks, steals and rebounds with his physical tools and feel for the game
-Terrific intangibles and family background. Looks like a coach's dream.


http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Frank-Ntilikina-77051/

Lonzo Ball sounds intriguing for passing and activeness as well, though he is now 14th on DX.

Strengths:
-Great size and solid length for a point guard prospect
-Outstanding vision – 8.7 assists per 40 minutes pace adjusted. Creative passer with either hand. Delivers the ball from different angles. Excellent timing hitting cutters, shooters and rim runners.
-Master of the quick outlet pass, especially with one hand.
-Active on the offensive and defensive glass. Has a nose for the ball. Not afraid to mix it up inside. 16.0 rebounds per 40 minutes pace adjusted.
-Outstanding instincts on the defensive end. Excellent anticipation. Thin but has the size, length, quickness and instincts to be a very good defender when motivated. 3.6 steals and 2.5 blocks per 40 minutes pace adjusted.
-Very unorthodox release point on his jumper but shoots it with range and confidence, and gets good rotation, all things considered.


http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Lonzo-Ball-7229/
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Re: Early look at 2017 draft & college basketball 

Post#99 » by PackSuns » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:36 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
kennydorglas wrote:
Damkac wrote:Frank Ntilikina is the youngest guy in this draft right? Maybe McD will try this tactic 3rd time in a row?


Yeahhh
All the Rubio lovers are going to love this guy.


Well, I first and foremost want a true floor general and distributor. I haven't seen enough of Markelle Fultz or Dennis Smith to judge, but when I mostly read about Fultz and Smith is their ability to attack the rim and score, and I see mention of combo guard, etc, it leaves me a little concerned we'd end up with another guy who values scoring over passing and getting others involved.

When I read this about Ntilikina, it sounds pretty damn good to me.

Frank Ntilikina, 6'5, Strasbourg, France, 1998

Jonathan Givony

Strengths:
-Has excellent size for a point guard at 6'5, to go along with a nice frame and a very long wingspan (possibly close to 7-feet).
-Plays with terrific pace. Never looks rushed. Has the ball on a string. Knows when to speed up and when to slow down. Has outstanding potential on the pick and roll.
-Terrific passer with exquisite court vision. Distributes in many different ways. Constantly looking to find open man. Extremely unselfish.
-Seems to be making progress with his outside shot. Knocked down jumpers all camp long, particularly shooting off the dribble. Shooting 85% from the free throw line this season, which is encouraging.
-Multi-positional defender. Has excellent tools to lock down either guard spot with size and length, but also puts great pride in his work on this end of the floor. Can put strong pressure on the ball. Does a great job of staying in front.
-Gets blocks, steals and rebounds with his physical tools and feel for the game
-Terrific intangibles and family background. Looks like a coach's dream.


http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Frank-Ntilikina-77051/

Lonzo Ball sounds intriguing for passing and activeness as well, though he is now 14th on DX.

Strengths:
-Great size and solid length for a point guard prospect
-Outstanding vision – 8.7 assists per 40 minutes pace adjusted. Creative passer with either hand. Delivers the ball from different angles. Excellent timing hitting cutters, shooters and rim runners.
-Master of the quick outlet pass, especially with one hand.
-Active on the offensive and defensive glass. Has a nose for the ball. Not afraid to mix it up inside. 16.0 rebounds per 40 minutes pace adjusted.
-Outstanding instincts on the defensive end. Excellent anticipation. Thin but has the size, length, quickness and instincts to be a very good defender when motivated. 3.6 steals and 2.5 blocks per 40 minutes pace adjusted.
-Very unorthodox release point on his jumper but shoots it with range and confidence, and gets good rotation, all things considered.


http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Lonzo-Ball-7229/


Looking forward to watching all these freshman PG's this year!
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Post#100 » by kennydorglas » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:40 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
kennydorglas wrote:
Damkac wrote:Frank Ntilikina is the youngest guy in this draft right? Maybe McD will try this tactic 3rd time in a row?


Yeahhh
All the Rubio lovers are going to love this guy.


Well, I first and foremost want a true floor general and distributior. I haven't seen enough of Markelle Fultz or Dennis Smith to judge, but when I mostly read about Fultz and Smith is their ability to attack the rim and score, and I see mention of combo guard, etc, it leaves me a little concerned we'd end up with another guy who values scoring over passing and getting others involved.

When I read this about Ntilikina, it sounds pretty damn good to me.

Frank Ntilikina, 6'5, Strasbourg, France, 1998

Jonathan Givony

Strengths:
-Has excellent size for a point guard at 6'5, to go along with a nice frame and a very long wingspan (possibly close to 7-feet).
-Plays with terrific pace. Never looks rushed. Has the ball on a string. Knows when to speed up and when to slow down. Has outstanding potential on the pick and roll.
-Terrific passer with exquisite court vision. Distributes in many different ways. Constantly looking to find open man. Extremely unselfish.
-Seems to be making progress with his outside shot. Knocked down jumpers all camp long, particularly shooting off the dribble. Shooting 85% from the free throw line this season, which is encouraging.
-Multi-positional defender. Has excellent tools to lock down either guard spot with size and length, but also puts great pride in his work on this end of the floor. Can put strong pressure on the ball. Does a great job of staying in front.
-Gets blocks, steals and rebounds with his physical tools and feel for the game
-Terrific intangibles and family background. Looks like a coach's dream.


http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Frank-Ntilikina-77051/

Lonzo Ball sounds intriguing for passing and activeness as well, though he is now 14th on DX.

Strengths:
-Great size and solid length for a point guard prospect
-Outstanding vision – 8.7 assists per 40 minutes pace adjusted. Creative passer with either hand. Delivers the ball from different angles. Excellent timing hitting cutters, shooters and rim runners.
-Master of the quick outlet pass, especially with one hand.
-Active on the offensive and defensive glass. Has a nose for the ball. Not afraid to mix it up inside. 16.0 rebounds per 40 minutes pace adjusted.
-Outstanding instincts on the defensive end. Excellent anticipation. Thin but has the size, length, quickness and instincts to be a very good defender when motivated. 3.6 steals and 2.5 blocks per 40 minutes pace adjusted.
-Very unorthodox release point on his jumper but shoots it with range and confidence, and gets good rotation, all things considered.


http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Lonzo-Ball-7229/


Fultz looks like the real deal tho. Think about a bouncier D'Angelo Russell.
Dennis Smith has the rare combination of elite athleticism & elite handles. God help his knees!

I dont like Lonzo too much, he just screams MCW too much for me. His shooting motion is really weird but somehow it works... let's see if it'll keep working in the college.

Nkitilina screams Rubio (i loved Rubio as a prospect and thought he'd take the league by storm.)
I think he's a great prospect but I guess the league is heading to another direction.
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