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Re: Preseason: Game 4: Portland Trail Blazers @ Phoenix Suns l Monday l 7:00pm l NBATV 

Post#81 » by garrick » Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:52 am

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100 percent between cp3 walking the ball up the court every time and lack 9f ball movement I wasn't enjoying watching the team as much as I had previously. Hate to say it because he was great for the Suns but I'm glad cp3 is gone.
to be fair though, during the 64 win season, we were plenty fun to watch, especially during the 18 win streak. all the clutch wins we had that year were exciting as ****, and CP was a big part of that. we will need that clutch gene again this year after we seemingly lost the ability to win close games as well last season.

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Ya it was a scrapy bunch but they won about 20 games in the last minute never felt like a dominant team. I just don't enjoy watching the ball walked up the court and playing half court basketball all the time. Not my jam.

But for sure the last 5 minutes was exciting because every damn game was close that year.


I think we shot ourselves in the foot going for the best record that season because we limped into the finals with a bunch of injuries.

In hindsight we really should have done better load management for CP3 but either Monty didn't believe in it or CP3 was too competitive to sit games.
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Post#82 » by grumpysaddle » Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:55 am

Yeah, we can find a better two way end of bench PG than Saben Lee.
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Post#84 » by bwgood77 » Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:04 am

Who are the 2 way players?
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Post#85 » by grumpysaddle » Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:18 am

bwgood77 wrote:Who are the 2 way players?

Saben Lee and Azubuike
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Post#86 » by SunsRback4Good » Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:18 am

Preseason should be 3-4 games max. Nobody cares about 8 games where 20 players play 5 to 20 minutes while 80% of stars sit out.
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Post#87 » by grumpysaddle » Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:20 am

SunsRback4Good wrote:Preseason should be 3-4 games max. Nobody cares about 8 games where 20 players play 5 to 20 minutes while 80% of stars sit out.

It's only 5 games, most teams only play 4 games.
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Post#88 » by SlovenianDragon » Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:35 am

Good game...

Allen and Goodwin look like our 6th men and fan favorites...

Saben Lee can go...

That is all.
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Post#89 » by sashaturiaf » Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:40 am

SlovenianDragon wrote:Good game...

Allen and Goodwin look like our 6th men and fan favorites...

Saben Lee can go...

That is all.



Don't forget about Yuta.

Looks like Okogie will be the 5th starter so it'll be EG, Allen, Goodwin and Yuta off the bench.

Were totally stacked at the guard spots. Would like one more true big or a big wing who are an upgrade on what we got, but that's mostly for the playoffs. In the regular season well run teams off the floor that with amount of shooting

Unfortunately I think it's bye bye Bol Bol.
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Post#90 » by Jdiddy701 » Tue Oct 17, 2023 5:16 am

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NE1Care wrote:When are we going to see the KD we were sold?


Every game they say “he’s not gonna shoot like this again” and then he does.

KD is not the same player he once was.

Our best player is booker. People will catch up this season.

What’s pretty crazy is that every game we say that, he ends up with damn near 30pts, 6-8 rebounds, 4-5 assists, couple of blocks and steals AND on great efficiency. He led us in scoring today (after his poor-ish start) shooting 60%.

Father time is undefeated for sure but he’s going to get a ton of open shots on this team and he will make them. The only thing he’s consistently struggled is turnovers. I think that will get worse as he gets older. The good news is that his workload will probably be the lowest his career playing alongside Book and Beal (and even Nurk if you factor in his passing abilities).

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Post#91 » by Revived » Tue Oct 17, 2023 5:29 am

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NE1Care wrote:When are we going to see the KD we were sold?


Every game they say “he’s not gonna shoot like this again” and then he does.

KD is not the same player he once was.

Our best player is booker. People will catch up this season.

What’s pretty crazy is that every game we say that, he ends up with damn near 30pts, 6-8 rebounds, 4-5 assists, couple of blocks and steals AND on great efficiency. He led us in scoring today (after his poor-ish start) shooting 60%.

He shot 22% from 3 against the Nuggets and most of those losses weren’t close. This after shooting 33% from 3 in their losing series the previous year with the Nets. For comparison, Booker shot 55% from 3 against the Nuggets.

Against good teams when the defense tightens up, KD just doesn’t have the legs to hit 3s at even half decent efficiency anymore.

The KD that used to walk up and hit a 3 between the eyes of elite defenders in the playoffs with the Warriors is dead. Good news is that with Beal now too, we won’t need that much from him so hopefully he can still hit from outside on good efficiency.

And yeah his turnovers are even worse. He’s never been a very good ball handler but it’s gotten worse as he’s gotten older. But like you mentioned with others on the team who can handle the rock too, hopefully he can control it.
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Post#92 » by Bogyo » Tue Oct 17, 2023 5:30 am

sashaturiaf wrote:
SlovenianDragon wrote:Good game...

Allen and Goodwin look like our 6th men and fan favorites...

Saben Lee can go...

That is all.



Don't forget about Yuta.

Looks like Okogie will be the 5th starter so it'll be EG, Allen, Goodwin and Yuta off the bench.

Were totally stacked at the guard spots. Would like one more true big or a big wing who are an upgrade on what we got, but that's mostly for the playoffs. In the regular season well run teams off the floor that with amount of shooting

Unfortunately I think it's bye bye Bol Bol.


If we had a good(ish) defensive big wing / PF we would be all set. Can we get one for Little+KDB+seconds at the deadline?
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Post#93 » by SunsRback4Good » Tue Oct 17, 2023 5:49 am

Bogyo wrote:
sashaturiaf wrote:
SlovenianDragon wrote:Good game...

Allen and Goodwin look like our 6th men and fan favorites...

Saben Lee can go...

That is all.



Don't forget about Yuta.

Looks like Okogie will be the 5th starter so it'll be EG, Allen, Goodwin and Yuta off the bench.

Were totally stacked at the guard spots. Would like one more true big or a big wing who are an upgrade on what we got, but that's mostly for the playoffs. In the regular season well run teams off the floor that with amount of shooting

Unfortunately I think it's bye bye Bol Bol.


If we had a good(ish) defensive big wing / PF we would be all set. Can we get one for Little+KDB+seconds at the deadline?


Quit trying to upgrade our team. We don’t have an identity anymore because we traded 95% of our roster since 21. I don’t recognize our team and tired of seeing new faces every month. Enough is enough geez.
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Post#94 » by garrick » Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:04 am

SunsRback4Good wrote:
Bogyo wrote:
sashaturiaf wrote:

Don't forget about Yuta.

Looks like Okogie will be the 5th starter so it'll be EG, Allen, Goodwin and Yuta off the bench.

Were totally stacked at the guard spots. Would like one more true big or a big wing who are an upgrade on what we got, but that's mostly for the playoffs. In the regular season well run teams off the floor that with amount of shooting

Unfortunately I think it's bye bye Bol Bol.


If we had a good(ish) defensive big wing / PF we would be all set. Can we get one for Little+KDB+seconds at the deadline?


Quit trying to upgrade our team. We don’t have an identity anymore because we traded 95% of our roster since 21. I don’t recognize our team and tired of seeing new faces every month. Enough is enough geez.


Yeah I hate that we got rid of our entire identity for the pursuit of a championship which is far from guaranteed. We aren't even the favorites to win it due to KD no longer being the same guy from the warrior days.

I do agree PF and PG are our weak links but I don't think we would trade KBD unless he agreed to it since he probably took a big discount to come here. I do expect that half the guys on our roster won't be on the team next year due to the Suns probably not being able to give them as big a contract as other teams.
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Post#95 » by Mulhollanddrive » Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:46 am

Goodwin 6 steals wow

Only disappointment was Okogie and Goodwin didn't make a 3 which they need to do to be consistent.
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Post#96 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:54 am

grumpysaddle wrote:Reath looking pretty good for Portland. He does kind of look like prime Z-Bo.

There's gonna be a bunch of games this season where Blazer fans will question whether their bench C's like Reath, Williams and Brown is better than DA, and why.

Just like we've done over the years with Baynes, Saric, Tank, Jock, McGee etc etc
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Post#97 » by handsome salary » Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:17 pm

Blazers fan with the mic drop:
Too bad Booker didn't try this hard in elimination games
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Post#98 » by Fo-Real » Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:53 pm

Allen fit pretty seamlessly into the starting lineup. It is weird having this much firepower, the last two games it has felt like we were sputtering in the 1st quarters only for me to look down at the end of the quarters and we have high 30s!
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Post#99 » by Saberestar » Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:08 pm

Calvin Klein wrote:
sashaturiaf wrote:
Calvin Klein wrote:
Every game they say “he’s not gonna shoot like this again” and then he does.

KD is not the same player he once was.

Our best player is booker. People will catch up this season.



Chill it's the preseason.


He is 35 and has a massive injury history. You can’t deny time.

We all are gonna die, you can't deny time... so we need to enjoy what we are and what we have every single day. And who do we have on the Suns? Kevin freaking Durant.

KD is a joy to watch, he played a secondary role in the first quarter because Book was COOKING but KD showed his A game in the second quarter.

19 points, 3 boards, 4 assists, 6/10 FG and 6/7 FTs with 0 TOs and 0 fouls.... in 15 minutes!
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Post#100 » by SunsRback4Good » Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:19 pm

Saberestar wrote:
Calvin Klein wrote:
sashaturiaf wrote:

Chill it's the preseason.


He is 35 and has a massive injury history. You can’t deny time.

We all are gonna die, you can't deny time... so we need to enjoy what we are and what we have every single day. And who do we have on the Suns? Kevin freaking Durant.

KD is a joy to watch, he played a secondary role in the first quarter because Book was COOKING but KD showed his A game in the second quarter.

19 points, 3 boards, 4 assists, 6/10 FG and 6/7 FTs with 0 TOs and 0 fouls.... in 15 minutes!


Well said Saberestar. Maybe KD is not the same KD we saw in OKC or GS but he’s still pretty damn good and we should be grateful that he’s on our team. Without Durant, no way does Booker average near 40 ppg last year in the playoffs. Booker had an easier time scoring since KD would get double teamed or you can’t sag off him cause he will make you pay.

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