2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III

BobbieL · Post #81 » by **BobbieL** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 1:42 am

TeamTragic wrote:What are DColdest and Flex saying about current potential trades?

DColdest - nothing since the Blaxers rumor

flex - nothing but “he trusts the management and these things take time”

Flex fluffing Ishbia to the fans

BobbieL · Post #82 » by **BobbieL** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 1:44 am

Slim Charless wrote:
TeamTragic wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
Why is it that every trade has the Suns sending three, THREE, First round picks for Butler?

Do these people really think he is worth that at this stage of his career? I get they are later in the first round picks but still --

Beal is cock blocking most trades. You can blame him.

Mercifully.

I agree. Thankfully he is blocking trades

TeamTragic · Post #83 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 1:48 am

BobbieL wrote:
TeamTragic wrote:What are DColdest and Flex saying about current potential trades?

DColdest - nothing since the Blaxers rumor

flex - nothing but “he trusts the management and these things take time”

Flex fluffing Ishbia to the fans

This cracks me up. At least Flex got the KD trade right.

Post #84 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:01 am

Qwigglez wrote:
SunsRback4Good wrote:Remember with great power comes great responsibility.

Remember also, with no power comes no responsibility.

Too bad you're a moderator on the Suns foreum with all that power! Lots of responsibility! SunsRback4Good on OTOH...

Post #85 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:05 am

sunsbg wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:AI in basktball analysis? crazy how far we've come.

Q: Are the Suns a true contender ?

AI: Right now, I don't see the Phoenix Suns as a true championship contender. While they have elite talent in Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, and Bradley Beal, their inconsistency, injury concerns, and lack of depth make them vulnerable against teams like the Nuggets, Celtics, or even the Thunder. They can win a playoff series or two, but I wouldn’t bet on them making the Finals unless something drastically changes.

Good when NI and AI are in agreement.

It would be interesting to have a thread and ask AI questions like "who will win the championship" and other things "like who will the Suns trade for" and see how the answers are and if they come close to fruition.

I just asked ChatGPT who the Suns will trade for and got:

As of now, there’s no specific trade that’s confirmed for the Phoenix Suns, but there are a few players they could look to acquire based on their current needs. The Suns might target a solid wing defender or a backup point guard to complement their core of Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, and Bradley Beal.

Some names that could be floating around in trade rumors include:

OG Anunoby (Toronto Raptors): A strong two-way player who could help the Suns with defense and scoring on the wing.
Matisse Thybulle (Portland Trail Blazers): A defensive specialist who could provide some depth on the perimeter.
Jrue Holiday (Boston Celtics): If the Suns look to add a more experienced, all-around guard, Jrue Holiday could be a potential target, although he might be more expensive in terms of trade assets.

That's obviously the free version of chatgpt given their knowledge of O.G. (surprising)

Post #86 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:08 am

Slim Charless wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
TeamTragic wrote:
I think we have a winner from the Heat perspective!

Why would the Kings want Beal

Why would the Suns send out three FRPs for Butler

Deal or No Deal Howie!

NO DEAL!!

Why is Beal waving his NTC to go play in SAC? Ishbia would do the picks for Butler if he's able to though.

If the Kings wanted him, why not? It's better than going to Minnesota, Detroit or Milwaukee.

SunsRback4Good · Post #87 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:14 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:
SunsRback4Good wrote:Remember with great power comes great responsibility.

Remember also, with no power comes no responsibility.

Too bad you're a moderator on the Suns foreum with all that power! Lots of responsibility! SunsRback4Good on OTOH...

SunsRback4good OTOH is a bum.

Post #88 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:19 am

ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
TeamTragic wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Big trade column today on ESPN from Bobby Marks going through each team. Here our some trades he mentioned the Suns could maybe do:

This is some disgusting garbage. No thanks.

People dying from hunger and you want to pay $200 million to watch Grayson Allen play basketball.

I knew inflation was bad, but damn!

I know I posted this reading it since I hadn't checked the thread and then saw King4Day already posted it but said he would hate to trade Allen for a first. I think it would be great to get first a for him AND get under BOTH aprons. I hate giving away a first for Nurkic but at least it's likely a very last one and it seems like we are probably getting a better one sooner in the other trade. And then being under both aprons have more trade flexibility.

Though I don't really care how much money Ishbia saves.

Post #89 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:22 am

BobbieL wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:

Beal is cock blocking most trades. You can blame him.

Mercifully.

I agree. Thankfully he is blocking trades

He hasn't blocked any. Can you name which trade he blocked and where he said he didn't want to play for a cold weather team? People just making stuff up.

No one wants him. Not to say he wouldn't block a trade but there hasn't been one agreed to that he's blocked. He hasn't even been approached about waiving it.

Post #90 » by **lilfishi22** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:23 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:
SunsRback4Good wrote:Remember with great power comes great responsibility.

Remember also, with no power comes no responsibility.

Too bad you're a moderator on the Suns foreum with all that power! Lots of responsibility! SunsRback4Good on OTOH...

Post #91 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:24 am

SunsRback4Good wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:Remember also, with no power comes no responsibility.

Too bad you're a moderator on the Suns foreum with all that power! Lots of responsibility! SunsRback4Good on OTOH...

SunsRback4good OTOH is a bum.

Noooo...far from it. A valued member of the prestigious Suns forum.

SunsRback4Good · Post #92 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:27 am

bwgood77 wrote:
SunsRback4Good wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Too bad you're a moderator on the Suns foreum with all that power! Lots of responsibility! SunsRback4Good on OTOH...

SunsRback4good OTOH is a bum.

Noooo...far from it. A valued member of the prestigious Suns forum.

Valued members don’t have a million strikes. I need to learn how to control my temper.

Slim Charless · Post #93 » by **Slim Charless** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:27 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
Why would the Kings want Beal

Why would the Suns send out three FRPs for Butler

Deal or No Deal Howie!

NO DEAL!!

Why is Beal waving his NTC to go play in SAC? Ishbia would do the picks for Butler if he's able to though.

If the Kings wanted him, why not? It's better than going to Minnesota, Detroit or Milwaukee.

Disagree.

Detroit is on the upswing in a very weak conference while Sac is trending down in a much tougher conference. Detroit has a ton cap room and a massive hole at SG where Beal would fit right in next to a potential super star in Cade Cunningham.

While the Kings have Sabonis and-despite his fan club here, I think if you polled any GM in the league and asked them who they'd rather have Cade or Dominas, all of them would say Cade. Including Sacramento's. Also, they happen to have their own Thompson Twin who can probably do alot of what his brother can.

Add in there the high tax bracket in CA and the fact that you're not in LA but you're paying near LA prices and it's not close to me. But this is mostly a basketball decision. Detroit now that they got rid of Moronty are a much better team.

Post #94 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:28 am

SunsRback4Good wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
SunsRback4Good wrote:
SunsRback4good OTOH is a bum.

Noooo...far from it. A valued member of the prestigious Suns forum.

Valued members don’t have a million strikes. I need to learn how to control my temper.

Well, those are on other forums. On this one you're good.

sunskerr · Post #95 » by **sunskerr** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:29 am

bwgood77 wrote:
SunsRback4Good wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Too bad you're a moderator on the Suns foreum with all that power! Lots of responsibility! SunsRback4Good on OTOH...

SunsRback4good OTOH is a bum.

Noooo...far from it. A valued member of the prestigious Suns forum.

Indeed. The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I've just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away. This Suns forum is now the ultimate power in the universe.

Slim Charless · Post #96 » by **Slim Charless** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:31 am

SunsRback4Good wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
SunsRback4Good wrote:
SunsRback4good OTOH is a bum.

Noooo...far from it. A valued member of the prestigious Suns forum.

Valued members don’t have a million strikes. I need to learn how to control my temper.

Mods on the GB and the trade forum are just soft and have biases against Suns fans. They're quick to hit us with strikes for doing nothing.

Post #97 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:31 am

Slim Charless wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:
Why is Beal waving his NTC to go play in SAC? Ishbia would do the picks for Butler if he's able to though.

If the Kings wanted him, why not? It's better than going to Minnesota, Detroit or Milwaukee.

Disagree.

Detroit is on the upswing in a very weak conference while Sac is trending down in a much tougher conference. Detroit has a ton cap room and a massive hole at SG where Beal would fit right in next to a potential super star in Cade Cunningham.

While the Kings have Sabonis and-despite his fan club here, I think if you polled any GM in the league and asked them who they'd rather have Cade or Dominas, all of them would say Cade. Including Sacramento's. Also, they happen to have their own Thompson Twin who can probably do alot of what his brother can.

Add in there the high tax bracket in CA and the fact that you're not in LA but you're paying near LA prices and it's not close to me. But this is mostly a basketball decision. Detroit now that they got rid of Moronty are a much better team.

I agree. About Cade.

I'm not talking about what team is good. I'm talking about where him and his family want to live.

Anyway, if you negotiate a NTC into your contract you should absolutely exercise it if a team is trying to trade you somewhere you don't want to go.

I don't think anyone is saying they want Beal though and that he is shutting anything down like people, or at least one person, is saying.

Post #98 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:32 am

Slim Charless wrote:
SunsRback4Good wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Noooo...far from it. A valued member of the prestigious Suns forum.

Valued members don’t have a million strikes. I need to learn how to control my temper.

Mods on the GB and the trade forum are just soft and have biases against Suns fans. They're quick to hit us with strikes for doing nothing.

The GB mods are really good now. I don't think there are many Suns fans who get in trouble over there, and if you do, I doubt they are being unreasonable. I don't know about the trade board. I haven't even been there in ages but I can imagine a lot of people over there laughing at Suns posters if they are putting Beal in trades and we are getting back Jimmy.

Post #99 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:40 am

Just watched the first 27 minutes of Simmons/Russillo trade value rankings on youtube. I think it's safe to say Simmons would HATE Ishbia if he was a Suns fan. He HATED that trade of our pick...said something like trading a $2 bill for 3 quarters or something like that. I'll have to finish it.

They are super high on Amen Thompson.

Slim Charless · Post #100 » by **Slim Charless** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:52 am

bwgood77 wrote:Just watched the first 27 minutes of Simmons/Russillo trade value rankings on youtube. I think it's safe to say Simmons would HATE Ishbia if he was a Suns fan. He HATED that trade of our pick...said something like trading a $2 bill for 3 quarters or something like that. I'll have to finish it.

They are super high on Amen Thompson.

Dude. I'm literally listening to it now.

Did you hear the part about Scottie Barnes? Simmons puts him at a super low value like 50 or so. I personally would trade Booker there with 0 hesitation for Barnes, Gradey Dick and a pick. Like, let's say the Dinos land at #6 this year. Either they give that to us or roll it over to next year.

Would you do that one?