The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 1

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Coaching the Suns is the best HC's job in the world, no doubt about it. You receive all the resources and a long term deal and you can be successful (nice) or fail and get your big bag of money. Win-Win always and don't waste any time.

I really like Ishbia and how badly he wants the Suns to be great. It hasn't worked so far but the intentions are good for real.

You have to be doing some kind of a bit right? There’s no way you actually believe the idiotic nonsense you post, is there?

“but the intentions are good for real”.

Let me ask you this…if a broke criminal sees your wife or mom walking out of the bank with some cash in their hand/purse and he goes up to them and kills them and takes the cash to buy food for himself and use for rent, would you “really like” that person too?

I have a weird feeling you actually would. You would say “it’s okay at least his intentions were good and I’m sure my wife or mom can understand and they’d be happy with the effort he showed to provide for himself”.

NBA is a results oriented league. What are the results since Ishbia has taken over? Absolute dog ***.

Fans like you are enablers. And a part of the reason that the Suns are the second biggest fcking laughing stock in the entire league.

[BobbieL]

Jones probably gone too per WT. I'm more interested in next GM hire than coach. Will Ishbia bring someone respected or another puppet.

Who is WT?

And yes, I agree -- the decision about GM is more important than HC
What GM can look at the cap, the roster, the draft picks and have a vision to rebuild

Realgm Wiretap. I tried to paste the link but for whatever reason it's to Bud getting fired article. It says Jones' contract expires in June and his future is uncertain.

Ishbia will just do what Sarver did with Kerr, let it expire right as Free agency starts so there is no GM -that was the offseason
of signing Childress and Warrick to long term deals
trading Barbosa for Hedo
signing Frye
one of those decisions worked

[sunsbg]

Who is WT?

And yes, I agree -- the decision about GM is more important than HC
What GM can look at the cap, the roster, the draft picks and have a vision to rebuild

Realgm Wiretap. I tried to paste the link but for whatever reason it's to Bud getting fired article. It says Jones' contract expires in June and his future is uncertain.

Ishbia will just do what Sarver did with Kerr, let it expire right as Free agency starts so there is no GM -that was the offseason
of signing Childress and Warrick to long term deals
trading Barbosa for Hedo
signing Frye
one of those decisions worked

Exactly, Suns will become one of those mediocre teams nobody is excited to watch, but as Saber said it's all with good intentions so all good.

[Djedefre]

If he hires a legit, proper GM, he won't be able to meddle in every effin thing and that's a no go. I'm expecting another spineless yes-man.

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He'll probably try to hire 70 year old Tom Izzo.

This actually would a ton of sense because Ishbia has proven that he loves old and/or washed up players…and that’s worked so well so why wouldn’t he try the same pattern with his next HC too?

Plus yeah the Michigan State connection and all.

I’m actually going to try and see if I can bet $$ on this and if it’s possible then I’m gonna put some $$ down on Izzo as next Suns HC.

[BobbieL]

Realgm Wiretap. I tried to paste the link but for whatever reason it's to Bud getting fired article. It says Jones' contract expires in June and his future is uncertain.

Ishbia will just do what Sarver did with Kerr, let it expire right as Free agency starts so there is no GM -that was the offseason
of signing Childress and Warrick to long term deals
trading Barbosa for Hedo
signing Frye
one of those decisions worked

Exactly, Suns will become one of those mediocre teams nobody is excited to watch, but as Saber said it's all with good intentions so all good.

BWG said it in the other thread - fans will be excited with Booker back for about 20 games before reality sets in the team is bad and they missed an opportunity to trade him.

If the goal is winning 36-40 games and being better and maybe a play-in game... thats one thing if you have a good young core. Suns don't have that anymore

[Saberestar]

Coaching the Suns is the best HC's job in the world, no doubt about it. You receive all the resources and a long term deal and you can be successful (nice) or fail and get your big bag of money. Win-Win always and don't waste any time.

I really like Ishbia and how badly he wants the Suns to be great. It hasn't worked so far but the intentions are good for real.

You have to be doing some kind of a bit right? There’s no way you actually believe the idiotic nonsense you post, is there?

“but the intentions are good for real”.

Let me ask you this…if a broke criminal sees your wife or mom walking out of the bank with some cash in their hand/purse and he goes up to them and kills them and takes the cash to buy food for himself and use for rent, would you “really like” that person too?

I have a weird feeling you actually would. You would say “it’s okay at least his intentions were good and I’m sure my wife or mom can understand and they’d be happy with the effort he showed to provide for himself”.

NBA is a results oriented league. What are the results since Ishbia has taken over? Absolute dog ***.

Fans like you are enablers. And a part of the reason that the Suns are the second biggest fcking laughing stock in the entire league.

What an example lol.

Ishbia has made big time moves that hasn't worked well so far for the team but I admire the intentions, the passion and the fact that he is putting all the money in the world to put a successful team on the court.

You don't like him? Nice, I don't give a ****.

[SunsRback4Good]

Coaching the Suns is the best HC's job in the world, no doubt about it. You receive all the resources and a long term deal and you can be successful (nice) or fail and get your big bag of money. Win-Win always and don't waste any time.

I really like Ishbia and how badly he wants the Suns to be great. It hasn't worked so far but the intentions are good for real.

You have to be doing some kind of a bit right? There’s no way you actually believe the idiotic nonsense you post, is there?

“but the intentions are good for real”.

Let me ask you this…if a broke criminal sees your wife or mom walking out of the bank with some cash in their hand/purse and he goes up to them and kills them and takes the cash to buy food for himself and use for rent, would you “really like” that person too?

I have a weird feeling you actually would. You would say “it’s okay at least his intentions were good and I’m sure my wife or mom can understand and they’d be happy with the effort he showed to provide for himself”.

NBA is a results oriented league. What are the results since Ishbia has taken over? Absolute dog ***.

Fans like you are enablers. And a part of the reason that the Suns are the second biggest fcking laughing stock in the entire league.

Saber is the biggest enabler on this site. He believes everything is rainbow & unicorns and Suns along with Ishbia will figure things out. Just because Ishbia has a nice bankroll doesn’t mean he’ll figure things out.

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Honestly after Ted Stepien, Ishbia has to be the dumbest owner in NBA history.

He's kind of like the guy deciding what to do with tariffs.

Whenever I hear Ishbia talk, I do see a lot of similarities with the person you’re speaking of. Both are smug and think their smarter than they actually are and only want people around them who bow down to them and kiss their ass.

[sunsbg]

Coaching the Suns is the best HC's job in the world, no doubt about it. You receive all the resources and a long term deal and you can be successful (nice) or fail and get your big bag of money. Win-Win always and don't waste any time.

I really like Ishbia and how badly he wants the Suns to be great. It hasn't worked so far but the intentions are good for real.

You have to be doing some kind of a bit right? There’s no way you actually believe the idiotic nonsense you post, is there?

“but the intentions are good for real”.

Let me ask you this…if a broke criminal sees your wife or mom walking out of the bank with some cash in their hand/purse and he goes up to them and kills them and takes the cash to buy food for himself and use for rent, would you “really like” that person too?

I have a weird feeling you actually would. You would say “it’s okay at least his intentions were good and I’m sure my wife or mom can understand and they’d be happy with the effort he showed to provide for himself”.

NBA is a results oriented league. What are the results since Ishbia has taken over? Absolute dog ***.

Fans like you are enablers. And a part of the reason that the Suns are the second biggest fcking laughing stock in the entire league.

Saber is the biggest enabler on this site. He believes everything is rainbow & unicorns and Suns along with Ishbia will figure things out. Just because Ishbia has a nice bankroll doesn’t mean he’ll figure things out.

Saberstar is hoping Ishbia reads forums and makes him next yes-man and Suns GM. Smart guy. We all can keep hating.

[BobbieL]

Honestly after Ted Stepien, Ishbia has to be the dumbest owner in NBA history.

He's kind of like the guy deciding what to do with tariffs.

Whenever I hear Ishbia talk, I do see a lot of similarities with the person you’re speaking of. Both are smug and think their smarter than they actually are and only want people around them who bow down to them and kiss their ass.

This off-season will tell a lot about Ishbia
Is he willing to eat some humble pie or just keep going in

Like if he trades Durant but for a player like Markkanen - like the Pincus trade where the Jazz end up with a lot of assets from Houston and the Suns get Lauri and one FRP -- but Markkanen is signed for 4 more years. So the cap isn't helped. And what does he do with Beal - like stretching Beal is stupid when you can just deal with him for two years

Or does he make a sensible move with Beal (buying out), getting under the apron, and making a good trade with Durant

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Todd Golden

One wildcard for the Suns to consider is Florida Gators head coach Todd Golden, who just won a national championship in the NCAA. Golden had a tremendously successful campaign in the men's college basketball season and could look to build on that by taking the next step to the NBA. Golden is originally from Phoenix, so his connection to Arizona could make him an especially intriguing candidate.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2025/04/14/mike-budenholzer-fired-steve-nash-phoenix-suns-next-head-coach-odds/83082714007/

This could actually be a smart hire imo. Guy is very young (39) but he’s shown he can be a good teacher and leader for a young team which what the Suns will be when they start rebuilding.

Florida is in talks with him on an extension though so Suns would have to move fast if he’s a potential target.

[Ghost of Kleine]

I’m sure good HC candidates will be lining up to coach for a team that’s fired 3 coaches in 2.5 years.

I'd take 4 years of pay for a year of work.

Maybe that is why Bud took the job -- hey if I am terrible for a year I will get fired

[BobbieL]

Todd Golden

One wildcard for the Suns to consider is Florida Gators head coach Todd Golden, who just won a national championship in the NCAA. Golden had a tremendously successful campaign in the men's college basketball season and could look to build on that by taking the next step to the NBA. Golden is originally from Phoenix, so his connection to Arizona could make him an especially intriguing candidate.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2025/04/14/mike-budenholzer-fired-steve-nash-phoenix-suns-next-head-coach-odds/83082714007/

This could actually be a smart hire imo. Guy is very young (39) but he’s shown he can be a good teacher and leader for a young team which what the Suns will be when they start rebuilding.

Florida is in talks with him on an extension though so Suns would have to move fast if he’s a potential target.

I think it was some guy names ZONA on Twitter but the five names they had

Willie Green
Cassell
Quinn
Dudley
Royal Ivey - with Durant leaving, not sure this one makes sense

I liked those options -- my guys are still Dudley and Cassell

But to me, its the GM job...

[mkot]

After watching the Nuggets owner Josh Kroenke press conference on firing Michael Malone and Calvin Booth, my belief of that the owner has a lot to do with building the culture and vision of the team is as strong as ever, especially for a owner like Matt Ishibia, who's been involved in making all the decisions of hiring, trading etc., It will be very interesting to hear what he will say about the team and the firing of Bud and possibly James Jones in coming days, or he will pull a Vivek Ranadivé from the Kings, hide from fans and media and let his intern HC and players answer the questions he should be answering. No class no balls.

[Sunsdeuce]

Ishbia has fired 3 coaches in under 26 months. He is an unserious owner.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Josh Bartelstein:

Isn't he the guy that really needs to get fired. After all, didn't he negotiate the trade for Bradley Beal due to his son being Beal's agent. I may have the son and father's role reversed but still it really happened because of the Bartelstein family. So, Matt while you are cleaning house dump the Bartelstein family from the organization. We are probably going to lose KD due to Beal as well as Booker. I truly believe the KD trade was horrible, but the Beal trade was even worse.

Exactly this! Bartlestein has to go!! along with Jones. This franchise needs a profound culture change and an entirely new empowered, EXPERIENCED, SAVVY, PROVEN front office and a GM with an actual track record of success in trades, the draft, and value assessment. No more convoluted, insulatory, faux front office "Yes men" shamelessly capitulating to horrifically egregious shortsighted decisions. Also no more nepotism hires or best buddy Michigan boys club clown silent partners/ consultants liked Isaiah "franchise killer" Thomas either!

All front office hirings need to be top tier, by the book, and well-established!

[Ghost of Kleine]

Todd Golden

One wildcard for the Suns to consider is Florida Gators head coach Todd Golden, who just won a national championship in the NCAA. Golden had a tremendously successful campaign in the men's college basketball season and could look to build on that by taking the next step to the NBA. Golden is originally from Phoenix, so his connection to Arizona could make him an especially intriguing candidate.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2025/04/14/mike-budenholzer-fired-steve-nash-phoenix-suns-next-head-coach-odds/83082714007/

This could actually be a smart hire imo. Guy is very young (39) but he’s shown he can be a good teacher and leader for a young team which what the Suns will be when they start rebuilding.

Florida is in talks with him on an extension though so Suns would have to move fast if he’s a potential target.

I think it was some guy names ZONA on Twitter but the five names they had

Willie Green
Cassell
Quinn
Dudley
Royal Ivey - with Durant leaving, not sure this one makes sense

I liked those options -- my guys are still Dudley and Cassell

But to me, its the GM job...

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[SunsRback4Good]

I'd take 4 years of pay for a year of work.

Maybe that is why Bud took the job -- hey if I am terrible for a year I will get fired