The One And Only Offseason Thread 3

[WeekapaugGroove]

Sure he "wants" 80 million but yeah that's not happening. I still don't think there's any chance he plays for the QO; it just doesn't make financial sense. If the 4-48 has a ETO which most of these do it's really 3-36 that he's locked into. His QO is 3.7 mil so he loses 8.3 mil next season; to just break even he would need to sign a deal over 16 mil next offseason. That's right about where his max contract would be for an outside team. Taking the QO has huge financial risks (getting hurt and losing 44 mil) and very little to no financial upside.

It's all posturing at this point. I don't blame a player for trying to get what they can in free agency but yeah 80 mil is crazy.

[Revived]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/489898641633849344[/tweet]

[Saberestar]

Source: Cleveland Cavaliers now willing to include Andrew Wiggins in Kevin Love trade offer

http://www.news-herald.com/sports/20140 ... rade-offer
Here we go!

[ChillitzPhil]

just scrolling through bledsoe's twitter and he only has 3 favorite tweets, this being one.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/SportsRedneck/status/472198984161693697[/tweet]

5 years for 80 mill ..uh no.

I absolutely hate how Bledsoe favorited this post. Makes me feel that his heart is still in LA and that the only way he'd want to play in the desert is if he obtained a max. As each day goes by, I'm accepting the fact that Bledsoe will be gone and overall, I think Suns will be ok.

[bwgood77]

McD to Bledsoe and his agent:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlxPXH37xVI[/youtube]

Perfect

[matt131]

just scrolling through bledsoe's twitter and he only has 3 favorite tweets, this being one.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/SportsRedneck/status/472198984161693697[/tweet]

5 years for 80 mill ..uh no.

I absolutely hate how Bledsoe favorited this post. Makes me feel that his heart is still in LA and that the only way he'd want to play in the desert is if he obtained a max. As each day goes by, I'm accepting the fact that Bledsoe will be gone and overall, I think Suns will be ok.

Wow, that's pretty weird. If we do lose Bledsoe, I hope we get something really good back in return. Work your magic McD!

[spanishninja]

yeah, now it's all about getting back the most possible. And give Dragic his money next year.

[bwgood77]

just scrolling through bledsoe's twitter and he only has 3 favorite tweets, this being one.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/SportsRedneck/status/472198984161693697[/tweet]

5 years for 80 mill ..uh no.

The max the Lakers can offer is 4/63 - same as Hayward I believe.

But the Lakers have these on the books
Kobe -23.5
Randle - 2
Young - 5
HIll - 9
Boozer - 3
Lin - 8.3
Clarkson - 1m
Nash - 10m

My math: 61m.

Salary cap is 63.
They cannot offer the MLE as they are under the cap

JDLAW correct me if wrong - but the Redneck is wrong.

They don't have the cap space to offer him anything right now. Look at the date of that tweet.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I'm sorry but I'm not as patient as you guys. Whole wait for a superstar or star to come around while collecting assets and your team develops, gets older is like watching paint dry, not fun regardless of love for the game, and this whole system makes me sick.

what's your solution? A magic unicorn granting the suns a super star?

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**** off with sarcasm. For them to actually to DO IT.

Now, don't get me wrong last yr was great and fun. I love this team's potential, seeing them develop but thought of waiting em out to be a contender...and will anyone of em actually want to come here? But that's what you want as a fan, a championship. To be good enough to watch your team win one. And this is how the league is to compete for one.

You didn't answer my question. What's your plan?

I think we all want the Suns to compete for a championship. I like that their are differing opinions on how they should go about accomplishing this goal; it leads to intelligent debate on this board.

What I get sick of is people simply complaining without a solution. That's just not productive and gets old.

[JTrain]

KEEP OUR COMPOSURE

[Moochthemonkey]

just scrolling through bledsoe's twitter and he only has 3 favorite tweets, this being one.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/SportsRedneck/status/472198984161693697[/tweet]

5 years for 80 mill ..uh no.

The max the Lakers can offer is 4/63 - same as Hayward I believe.

But the Lakers have these on the books
Kobe -23.5
Randle - 2
Young - 5
HIll - 9
Boozer - 3
Lin - 8.3
Clarkson - 1m
Nash - 10m

My math: 61m.

Salary cap is 63.
They cannot offer the MLE as they are under the cap

JDLAW correct me if wrong - but the Redneck is wrong.

Correct now- look at the date of the tweet.

EDIT: bwgood beat me to the punch.

Couldn't the Lakers just waive Nash and offer Bledsoe a backloaded contract?

[letsgosuns]

If Bledsoe is really demanding 5 years, 80 million, then I think he does not want to be here. That is ridiculous. He has done nothing to deserve that contract. Sounds to me like he just wants off the team and wants the Suns to trade him. If that is the case, fine with me. He can leave and go be happy somewhere else. The Suns should work out a sign and trade for him with someone. I would rather have a player that wants to be on the Suns instead of a player that does not want to be here. The Suns have so many young players so I think they will be fine.

[Saberestar]

just scrolling through bledsoe's twitter and he only has 3 favorite tweets, this being one.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/SportsRedneck/status/472198984161693697[/tweet]

5 years for 80 mill ..uh no.

wow...not good...not good

Great find Wordsenuff

[bwgood77]

It's absolutely crazy they are reporting to Broussard (if they are) that they want 5 year, $80 million. They are making Bledsoe look absurd.

He can't even get an offer sheet from another team and he is demandingTHE FIVE YEAR MAX? A guy that the first year became a starter played in thirty something games?

If McD moves any higher for no reason, it will be ridiculous.

Assuming all this that Broussard is saying is true, which of course, we all know it could be pretty far from the truth.

[kennydorglas]

**** off, bledsoe
4/48 is the same contract that curry got.
wtf

[streetballdude]

I wouldn't even be mad if he got a higher contract than Dragic's future one, but the max? Come on...

[bwgood77]

Couldn't the Lakers just waive Nash and offer Bledsoe a backloaded contract?

They could waive him via the stretch but he would still take a 3.17 of cap room. The max the could offer him is whatever they could afford during the first year + 4.5% raises.

[Bulk]

48M for 4 years is absolutely fine, the correct offer IMO considering production, potencial and how short time he has played as a starter. McD and Babby should keep the current offer as nobody will offer him more.

Seems like a desperation move from Rich Paul. He should've paid more attention to Bledsoe early in FA rather than LBJ.

[bhawk]

BAAAD Offseason so far for Bledsoe...

Here is a guy that was cagey, aloof and non-committal last season because he was posturing for a BIG payday. The result so far is NO SOUP FOR YOU!

Where did he go wrong?

1) Bad agent advice.
2) Aligning with Lebron's agent has hurt him and he had to wait for Lebron decision.
3) Lebron relationship has done him NO FAVORS. Seriously, if they are buds, why isn't Cleveland calling?
4) He underestimated his injury.
5) He overestimated the market for PGs. No offers from other teams.
6) Suns have been masterful with Isaiah Thomas signing. Insurance and set the market low for Bledsoe.

Bottom Line: There is no max offer in sight for Bledsoe and he is looking at an offer from the Suns which is significantly under what he expected.

What next?

1) He signs for 4 @ 44M with the Suns and is happy / thankful about it.
2) He signs for 4 @ 44M with the Suns and pouts all season.
3) He signs for 4 @ 44M with the Suns and fakes an injury.
4) He takes the qualifying offer and becomes unrestricted next season. VERY risky with knees.
5) Sign and Trade still possible? Maybe?

I'm not sure what to make of the situation. This is a guy who has yet to say that he wants to be here long term.

I don't believe the market improves for Bledsoe. Let's say he takes the QO. That means he plays as a Sun next year as a PG on a team with 2 other really GOOD Point Guards. He may not be the best player on the Suns next year and that will NOT help his value as a UFA. Also, what if he gets injured?

The guy is in a bad, bad place right now and this situation may not end well.

Question: Can he hold out?

Fire your agent. Now! Bledsoe is going to be a goat if they don't fix this. Just waiting for the Bledsoe internet meme to be spawned... this could get ugly, ugly, ugly.

[JDLAW]

If Bledsoe is really demanding 5 years, 80 million, then I think he does not want to be here. That is ridiculous. He has done nothing to deserve that contract. Sounds to me like he just wants off the team and wants the Suns to trade him. If that is the case, fine with me. He can leave and go be happy somewhere else. The Suns should work out a sign and trade for him with someone. I would rather have a player that wants to be on the Suns instead of a player that does not want to be here. The Suns have so many young players so I think they will be fine.

No! Each side in the CBA negotiated their rights. Everybody knows the rules. If you own the team, you don't give up your rights just because a player might want to be elsewhere and still get paid and throws (or his agent) throws a tantrum. You stick to your guns because you realize you are holding all the face cards and you do not want to send the message that if a player in a contract negotiation does not get his way, he can stomp his feet and the team will send him away. This is just juvenile.

If Bledsoe wants to get paid next year, he will sign a deal, if not, he can play on the QO and then leave and go wherever he wants. However, if he does so the most some team can offer him would be is 4 years and $63M assuming someone wants to pay him that and assuming a team wants to deal with his idiot agent.