The One And Only Offseason Thread 4

[JTrain]

4 year, 50 million plus one million incentive for every year he plays in 70+ games.

[JTrain]

We're not likely going to get it done with the $48m/4 offer and it does neither party any good just sitting on it.

It seems like the deal will get done if the Suns sit on it because what else could happen? He won't touch the QO.

The Suns may budge, but not out of necessity.

[RunDogGun]

I still say we start lowering the offer by months. Either 4/$46 or 4/$44 starting in August. If he goes for the QO, then start IT.

[DirtyDez]

Maybe the Suns think Bledsoe playing out his QO wouldn't be the worst thing. He'll be in a contract year and if he proves to be worth it we can afford to extend both he and Dragic. If he gets injured again we're not locked in longterm. I don't think the bridges have been burned despite some frustration from both sides.

[lilfishi22]

We're not likely going to get it done with the $48m/4 offer and it does neither party any good just sitting on it.

It seems like the deal will get done if the Suns sit on it because what else could happen? He won't touch the QO.

The Suns may budge, but not out of necessity.

We wouldn't be doing it out of necessity. We would be doing it because it's in the interest of both parties and so we can move on from this and get to work.

[JTrain]

Might not be in Sarver's best interest. Unless they are really convinced Bledsoe will pout and jeopardize the team's success.

We could offer him a very slight increase like $50M contingent on him accepting within one week. Might be a way to get it done fast.

[JTrain]

We're not likely going to get it done with the $48m/4 offer and it does neither party any good just sitting on it.

It seems like the deal will get done if the Suns sit on it because what else could happen? He won't touch the QO.

The Suns may budge, but not out of necessity.

We wouldn't be doing it out of necessity. We would be doing it because it's in the interest of both parties and so we can move on from this and get to work.

What did you mean by "not likely to get it done"?

[JDLAW]

Maybe the Suns think Bledsoe playing out his QO wouldn't be the worst thing. He'll be in a contract year and if he proves to be worth it we can afford to extend both he and Dragic. If he gets injured again we're not locked in longterm. I don't think the bridges have been burned despite some frustration from both sides.

You're thought on the QO is interesting and I am sure it has crossed the minds of the Suns brain trust. But I don't think there is a whole lot of frustration on the Suns side of this negotiation. They are in the best position they could have hoped for.

Here is one other thing to consider. On Oct 1, the QO expires. The Suns must re-offer a QO. If they do not, Bledsoe becomes unrestricted, but without Bird rights. If the Suns re-offer a QO they retain the right to match. If Bledsoe does not accept a the re-offered QO or sign a contract, he can sit out the year but the Suns will retain RFA status and the right to match.

[JTrain]

I see roughly a zero percent chance he takes the QO. He would be jeopardizing $44M+ in the case of a serious knee injury. No way he or Rich Paul are that dumb.

[lilfishi22]

Might not be in Sarver's best interest. Unless they are really convinced Bledsoe will pout and jeopardize the team's success.

Sarver's best interest is putting on the court an exciting and successful product. Bledsoe has proven when he's on the court, we're a much better team. Wins = playoffs = dat playoff cash. That playoff revenue may not cover Bledsoe's salary so that's something to be considered though.

What did you mean by "not likely to get it done"?

I think Bledsoe's camp need a bit more of a nudge for them to feel they've gotten enough of a win to sign.

[JTrain]

I think Bledsoe's camp need a bit more of a nudge for them to feel they've gotten enough of a win to sign.

But what are their other options since no other team is offering? Do you think they would take the QO? My point is that the 48 million is the only reasonable option and they will end up taking it even if they think it sucks.

[Sunsdeuce]

I see roughly a zero percent chance he takes the QO. He would be jeopardizing $44M+ in the case of a serious knee injury. No way he or Rich Paul are that dumb.

Yeah, I doubt the QO is even a choice for him.


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[lilfishi22]

But what are their other options since no other team is offering? Do you think they would take the QO? My point is that the 48 million is the only reasonable option and they will end up taking it even if they think it sucks.

There isn't but we want Bledsoe to show up to training camp happy and feel like we've taken care of him. Why wouldn't you go a little further, give his camp a feeling they've "won" and move on?

You're right that there are no other options out there and $48m/4 is more than reasonable but do we want to pay $48m/4 to a guy that signed begrudgingly?

[JTrain]

But what are their other options since no other team is offering? Do you think they would take the QO? My point is that the 48 million is the only reasonable option and they will end up taking it even if they think it sucks.

There isn't but we want Bledsoe to show up to training camp happy and feel like we've taken care of him. Why wouldn't you go a little further, give his camp a feeling they've "won" and move on?

You're right that there are no other options out there and $48m/4 is more than reasonable but do we want to pay $48m/4 to a guy that signed begrudgingly?

Yeah I'm just saying, the deal will get done (even if begrudgingly).

[JTrain]

The next question is, if we raise the offer for pout prevention, how do we know what number we need to go to? Will he still pout at 52 but not at 54? And how the hell do we know? He may sign angrily but then not pout at all come October. Or he may give in and sign happily but then build up resentment and pout like crazy. Impossible to tell.

[lilfishi22]

Yeah I'm just saying, the deal will get done (even if begrudgingly).

I agree except for the bolded part

[kingstyyyle]

I don't know about you guys but I think offering "pout prevention" is like the most sissy uncompetitive sh*t I've ever heard. I miss the days where basketball players were men.

I really don't think we should offer him any more money then our offer. if we up our offer where does it stop? When the next player needs an extension he's just going to pout to get more money. Lets not reward pouting please.

[King4Day]

Maybe the Suns think Bledsoe playing out his QO wouldn't be the worst thing. He'll be in a contract year and if he proves to be worth it we can afford to extend both he and Dragic. If he gets injured again we're not locked in longterm. I don't think the bridges have been burned despite some frustration from both sides.

You can bet your ass if Bledsoe takes the QO, he will take the first offer out of Phoenix next Summer.
If he does take the QO, he will be traded before the season is over.

[Revived]

Maybe the Suns think Bledsoe playing out his QO wouldn't be the worst thing. He'll be in a contract year and if he proves to be worth it we can afford to extend both he and Dragic. If he gets injured again we're not locked in longterm. I don't think the bridges have been burned despite some frustration from both sides.

You can bet your ass if Bledsoe takes the QO, he will take the first offer out of Phoenix next Summer.
If he does take the QO, he will be traded before the season is over.

Yea I think if Bledsoe takes the QO and has a great year then he absolutely leaves PHX even if the Suns were to offer him the 5 year max and other teams only offer 4 year max.

However if I'm the Suns, that's absolutely a risk that I'm willing to take.

[Jdiddy701]

QO is out the picture. No way Bled's agent agrees to that even if Eric wants that.. No way.

I still stand come November, Bledsoe will be a Phoenix Sun. Just don't know at what price.


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