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Post#801 » by bwgood77 » Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:32 pm

Revived wrote:Definitely recommend Money Heist on Netflix. Brilliant show.


I've watched it all..right when each season comes out. Very entertaining...has it's faults but very fun. If you like (or don't mind) international shows, I have a big list...check Media Lounge and threads "TV shows currently watching" and "Underrated/under the radar shows" and top ten lists for 2018 and 2019 threads.

Better than Us on Netflix very fun to watch....just watched Wild District too which was entertaining. Bad Blood was good as well. Quite a few others it seems.
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Post#802 » by Revived » Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:22 pm

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Revived wrote:Definitely recommend Money Heist on Netflix. Brilliant show.


I've watched it all..right when each season comes out. Very entertaining...has it's faults but very fun. If you like (or don't mind) international shows, I have a big list...check Media Lounge and threads "TV shows currently watching" and "Underrated/under the radar shows" and top ten lists for 2018 and 2019 threads.

Better than Us on Netflix very fun to watch....just watched Wild District too which was entertaining. Bad Blood was good as well. Quite a few others it seems.

I enjoy international shows quite a bit. I watch it in the original foreign language and use subtitles as this helps me learn a little bit of a new language as well.

Wild District is next on my list of shows to watch as I have an affinity for Colombian shows after watching Narcos.
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Post#803 » by bwgood77 » Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:02 am

If anyone is just in the mood for a fun action movie that will keep you entertained all the way through, watch 6 Underground on Netflix.

You might think it starts out cheesy to some extent, though it's a long car chase, but it gets better and is really entertaining. Not a high quality movie but when it comes to wanting to just chill and watch something fun and be entertained, if you are in the mood for something like that, it's worth checking out.
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Post#804 » by Dual » Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:59 am

I just finished The Witcher from Netflix.
Pretty disappointing I must say, they were comparing it with GOT all these months, some media saying it will be better.
Not in same level at all.
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Post#805 » by MrMiyagi » Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:21 am

Dual wrote:I just finished The Witcher from Netflix.
Pretty disappointing I must say, they were comparing it with GOT all these months, some media saying it will be better.
Not in same level at all.
Whoever compared it to GOT is an idiot who just saw the fantasy genre attached. I really liked the show, but I'm also a big fan of the books and games.
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Post#806 » by bwgood77 » Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:47 pm

MrMiyagi wrote:
Dual wrote:I just finished The Witcher from Netflix.
Pretty disappointing I must say, they were comparing it with GOT all these months, some media saying it will be better.
Not in same level at all.
Whoever compared it to GOT is an idiot who just saw the fantasy genre attached. I really liked the show, but I'm also a big fan of the books and games.


So do you think someone who is not a big fan of the books and games would like it?
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Post#807 » by MrMiyagi » Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:08 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:
Dual wrote:I just finished The Witcher from Netflix.
Pretty disappointing I must say, they were comparing it with GOT all these months, some media saying it will be better.
Not in same level at all.
Whoever compared it to GOT is an idiot who just saw the fantasy genre attached. I really liked the show, but I'm also a big fan of the books and games.


So do you think someone who is not a big fan of the books and games would like it?

The biggest complaint I've seen people have about the show is that it doesn't make it very clear that there are two timelines happening. I personally didn't have that problem because I'm familiar with the story, but I also feel that it shouldn't be too much of an issue because it's basically just giving you each of the main character's backstory. I'd personally recommend the show to people who haven't read the books or played the games because I think there is a lot to like about the show, but I'd also be interested in why Dual was disappointed other than expecting something more in line with GOT. Basically, I'd warn about some possible slow-goings and slight confusion, but overall I think there is more than enough to hold a new person's interest to see how things play out.

Edit: It has more in common with The Mandalorian than GOTs, and I could see how some people might feel some redundancy between the two or perfer Mando because of Star Wars. I personally prefer The Witcher's first season because it's already dealing with themes that are interesting and much better character development and dynamics whereas Mando is much more of an adventure without much thematics or character work going on.
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Post#808 » by Dual » Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:44 pm

MrMiyagi wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:Whoever compared it to GOT is an idiot who just saw the fantasy genre attached. I really liked the show, but I'm also a big fan of the books and games.


So do you think someone who is not a big fan of the books and games would like it?

The biggest complaint I've seen people have about the show is that it doesn't make it very clear that there are two timelines happening. I personally didn't have that problem because I'm familiar with the story, but I also feel that it shouldn't be too much of an issue because it's basically just giving you each of the main character's backstory. I'd personally recommend the show to people who haven't read the books or played the games because I think there is a lot to like about the show, but I'd also be interested in why Dual was disappointed other than expecting something more in line with GOT. Basically, I'd warn about some possible slow-goings and slight confusion, but overall I think there is more than enough to hold a new person's interest to see how things play out.

In my case it was for all the hype mostly. And yes, the treatment of the timelines was so poor that first time I didnt know we were in the past after some minutes in hehe.
I guess is ok, also didnt like much the acting, starting with the main character.
And last but not least:
Spoiler:
the history didnt advance much in those 8 episodes, for me there was a lot of filling minutes that didnt add much to the history
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Post#809 » by wheezy » Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:23 pm

MrMiyagi wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:Whoever compared it to GOT is an idiot who just saw the fantasy genre attached. I really liked the show, but I'm also a big fan of the books and games.


So do you think someone who is not a big fan of the books and games would like it?


Edit: It has more in common with The Mandalorian than GOTs, and I could see how some people might feel some redundancy between the two or perfer Mando because of Star Wars. I personally prefer The Witcher's first season because it's already dealing with themes that are interesting and much better character development and dynamics whereas Mando is much more of an adventure without much thematics or character work going on.


Mando feels very middle of the road to me for the most part. Almost the epitome of a show I can put on in the background while I work and not have to worry about missing anything.
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Post#810 » by MrMiyagi » Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:40 am

wheezy wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
So do you think someone who is not a big fan of the books and games would like it?


Edit: It has more in common with The Mandalorian than GOTs, and I could see how some people might feel some redundancy between the two or perfer Mando because of Star Wars. I personally prefer The Witcher's first season because it's already dealing with themes that are interesting and much better character development and dynamics whereas Mando is much more of an adventure without much thematics or character work going on.


Mando feels very middle of the road to me for the most part. Almost the epitome of a show I can put on in the background while I work and not have to worry about missing anything.
I feel similarly, but that's why I prefer The Witcher. I felt like it did a good job introducing the characters their dynamics that'll be recurring throught the series (though I am biased since I know the characters and where things are going). Most of Mando's characters seems superficial and don't have much reason to stick together other than Baby Yoda is cute and interesting. I compare the two because they've got similar dynamics in a lone adventurer takes responsibility for a young person with powers, but they also do a job (bounty hunting, hunting monsters) so the shows try to balance one-off adventures and progressing a longer central narrative. I think Witcher is more successful at balancing the two. Give it a shot, just know that the 2 timelines don't really get established until episode 4.
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Post#811 » by MrMiyagi » Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:50 am

Dual wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
So do you think someone who is not a big fan of the books and games would like it?

The biggest complaint I've seen people have about the show is that it doesn't make it very clear that there are two timelines happening. I personally didn't have that problem because I'm familiar with the story, but I also feel that it shouldn't be too much of an issue because it's basically just giving you each of the main character's backstory. I'd personally recommend the show to people who haven't read the books or played the games because I think there is a lot to like about the show, but I'd also be interested in why Dual was disappointed other than expecting something more in line with GOT. Basically, I'd warn about some possible slow-goings and slight confusion, but overall I think there is more than enough to hold a new person's interest to see how things play out.

In my case it was for all the hype mostly. And yes, the treatment of the timelines was so poor that first time I didnt know we were in the past after some minutes in hehe.
I guess is ok, also didnt like much the acting, starting with the main character.
And last but not least:
Spoiler:
the history didnt advance much in those 8 episodes, for me there was a lot of filling minutes that didnt add much to the history


I'm not really sure exactly what your spoiler tagged comment means or why it is tagged as a spoiler. I guess I can see how someone can walk away from watching this and think "wow, not much happened" but I personally would disagree.
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Post#812 » by bwgood77 » Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:55 am

MrMiyagi wrote:
Dual wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:The biggest complaint I've seen people have about the show is that it doesn't make it very clear that there are two timelines happening. I personally didn't have that problem because I'm familiar with the story, but I also feel that it shouldn't be too much of an issue because it's basically just giving you each of the main character's backstory. I'd personally recommend the show to people who haven't read the books or played the games because I think there is a lot to like about the show, but I'd also be interested in why Dual was disappointed other than expecting something more in line with GOT. Basically, I'd warn about some possible slow-goings and slight confusion, but overall I think there is more than enough to hold a new person's interest to see how things play out.

In my case it was for all the hype mostly. And yes, the treatment of the timelines was so poor that first time I didnt know we were in the past after some minutes in hehe.
I guess is ok, also didnt like much the acting, starting with the main character.
And last but not least:
Spoiler:
the history didnt advance much in those 8 episodes, for me there was a lot of filling minutes that didnt add much to the history


I'm not really sure exactly what your spoiler tagged comment means or why it is tagged as a spoiler. I guess I can see how someone can walk away from watching this and think "wow, not much happened" but I personally would disagree.


I don't really care about two timelines, as I have no problem following that stuff. But is it compelling, interesting. It's weird reading about the Mandalorian. I am a big Star Wars fan and I haven't watched it but I hear people saying it's not that great except the little Yoda is cute. That sounds very strange to me. Doesn't sound like that would be enough to keep watching it. Do either of them really leave you wondering at the end of the episode "I really want to see what's going to happen next" or "This is really interesting...lets see how this develops."?
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Post#813 » by Dual » Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:13 am

MrMiyagi wrote:
Dual wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:The biggest complaint I've seen people have about the show is that it doesn't make it very clear that there are two timelines happening. I personally didn't have that problem because I'm familiar with the story, but I also feel that it shouldn't be too much of an issue because it's basically just giving you each of the main character's backstory. I'd personally recommend the show to people who haven't read the books or played the games because I think there is a lot to like about the show, but I'd also be interested in why Dual was disappointed other than expecting something more in line with GOT. Basically, I'd warn about some possible slow-goings and slight confusion, but overall I think there is more than enough to hold a new person's interest to see how things play out.

In my case it was for all the hype mostly. And yes, the treatment of the timelines was so poor that first time I didnt know we were in the past after some minutes in hehe.
I guess is ok, also didnt like much the acting, starting with the main character.
And last but not least:
Spoiler:
the history didnt advance much in those 8 episodes, for me there was a lot of filling minutes that didnt add much to the history


I'm not really sure exactly what your spoiler tagged comment means or why it is tagged as a spoiler. I guess I can see how someone can walk away from watching this and think "wow, not much happened" but I personally would disagree.

I'm very careful on not making spoilers at all, I agree that's not a spoiler, but just in case :lol:
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Post#814 » by MrMiyagi » Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:32 am

bwgood77 wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:
Dual wrote:In my case it was for all the hype mostly. And yes, the treatment of the timelines was so poor that first time I didnt know we were in the past after some minutes in hehe.
I guess is ok, also didnt like much the acting, starting with the main character.
And last but not least:
Spoiler:
the history didnt advance much in those 8 episodes, for me there was a lot of filling minutes that didnt add much to the history


I'm not really sure exactly what your spoiler tagged comment means or why it is tagged as a spoiler. I guess I can see how someone can walk away from watching this and think "wow, not much happened" but I personally would disagree.


I don't really care about two timelines, as I have no problem following that stuff. But is it compelling, interesting. It's weird reading about the Mandalorian. I am a big Star Wars fan and I haven't watched it but I hear people saying it's not that great except the little Yoda is cute. That sounds very strange to me. Doesn't sound like that would be enough to keep watching it. Do either of them really leave you wondering at the end of the episode "I really want to see what's going to happen next" or "This is really interesting...lets see how this develops."?


I enjoy both, but differently. Mando is easy watching. There's not a lot to keep track of, you just get to tune in and see some cool Star Wars stuff for 40ish minutes. It's kind of like a mobile game on your phone. It's simple, enjoyable, passes the time, usually easy to navigate (tap tap tap). Witcher is a little more work (it's not hard to follow per se, but there are more characters and dynamics great and small), which I would say is more akin to a PC/Console game. You might need to remember which button does what thing because it's been a while and you need a refresher before you progress in the actual game, but once you're in it there's a bit more satisfaction than the tap tap tap of a mobile game.

I'd say that Witcher, for me, would probably be more likely to enduce those questions/reactions than Mando. This is just one man's biased opinion, of course. I've already been hooked by the other mediums of Witcher tales and I think the series captures much of the allure of it's source materials, whereas Mando is brand new and the first episode hit much differently than each successive one has, just because it could have gone in so many different directions after episode 1. It has since narrowed, and I'm not quite as compelled.
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anyone want to talk star wars? I have to say the new trilogy blew the original out of the water.
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SuperSunsFan wrote:anyone want to talk star wars? I have to say the new trilogy blew the original out of the water.
I disagree, but I'm glad you enjoyed it.
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Post#817 » by SuperSunsFan » Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:05 pm

MrMiyagi wrote:
SuperSunsFan wrote:anyone want to talk star wars? I have to say the new trilogy blew the original out of the water.
I disagree, but I'm glad you enjoyed it.

The original was never popular because of its amazing story or characterization, it is only now that a star wars is being judged solely on its story and if it doesn't adhered to a very specific way hardcore fans wanted it to be exactly it gets trashed. how about enjoying for its amazing editing, photography, art direction, and the soundtrack? simple and basic functional story structure with light humors and likeable characters as a backdrop to showcase state of the art SFX has always been the way the original was designed. For Christ sake in episode 4 clearly by design there was a love triangle between all the principle characters, Lucas changed course in the second and forced onto us this leia is Luke's sister bs and somehow the original is now being treated as the pinnacle of story telling? give me a break. did we know anything about Han Solo besides him being a cynical outside but heroic inside space pirate who used to only look out for himself until he made friend with Luke and Leia and reluctantly join the resistance, but no all of a sudden new star wars films are being judged by these very unfair criteria. nostalgia has skewed the way people's perception on their favorite movies, when they used this indestructible skewed version to judge new entries of the franchise of course they were all garbage.
I really like the reverse hero arc of the trilogy that Kylo Ren had to complete his sith training by severing all his ties to the light side in the form seeking out his blood relatives and killing them one by one, that is an amazing idea and despite some hiccups it was most realized successfully. somehow the fans hated the last jedi because of the bold moves they took (Luke tempted by the dark side which causes Ben to fall, Kylo Ren join forces with Rey in the middle of trilogy to take down the supposedly end boss and became the end boss himself, Luke using his spirit form to fight Kylo Ren from afar) and hated it again for playing too safely this time around (the last arc is pretty much a conglomeration of all the best elements of recent disney successes in case you don't notice - rey's parentage - star lord, allies showing up to save the day - end game)
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SuperSunsFan wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:
SuperSunsFan wrote:anyone want to talk star wars? I have to say the new trilogy blew the original out of the water.
I disagree, but I'm glad you enjoyed it.

The original was never popular because of its amazing story or characterization, it is only now that a star wars is being judged solely on its story and if it doesn't adhered to a very specific way hardcore fans wanted it to be exactly it gets trashed. how about enjoying for its amazing editing, photography, art direction, and the soundtrack? simple and basic functional story structure with light humors and likeable characters as a backdrop to showcase state of the art SFX has always been the way the original was designed. For Christ sake in episode 4 clearly by design there was a love triangle between all the principle characters, Lucas changed course in the second and forced onto us this leia is Luke's sister bs and somehow the original is now being treated as the pinnacle of story telling? give me a break. did we know anything about Han Solo besides him being a cynical outside but heroic inside space pirate who used to only look out for himself until he made friend with Luke and Leia and reluctantly join the resistance, but no all of a sudden new star wars films are being judged by these very unfair criteria. nostalgia has skewed the way people's perception on their favorite movies, when they used this indestructible skewed version to judge new entries of the franchise of course they were all garbage.
I really like the reverse hero arc of the trilogy that Kylo Ren had to complete his sith training by severing all his ties to the light side in the form seeking out his blood relatives and killing them one by one, that is an amazing idea and despite some hiccups it was most realized successfully. somehow the fans hated the last jedi because of the bold moves they took (Luke tempted by the dark side which causes Ben to fall, Kylo Ren join forces with Rey in the middle of trilogy to take down the supposedly end boss and became the end boss himself, Luke using his spirit form to fight Kylo Ren from afar) and hated it again for playing too safely this time around (the last arc is pretty much a conglomeration of all the best elements of recent disney successes in case you don't notice - rey's parentage - star lord, allies showing up to save the day - end game)


The Last Jedi was so bad (with some great parts) that there is no way I will feel this way, even having not seen the new one. The early ones might be a bit more overrated, at least in comparison to some of the others, only because they were groundbreaking at the time and many of us saw them as little kids so it's just memories of something amazing..the only thing close to it out there.

I did love The Force Awakens though as it brought back so much nostalgia and I loved the lead character...she is one of my favorites in the series, if not THE favorite.
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Post#819 » by wheezy » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:22 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:
Dual wrote:In my case it was for all the hype mostly. And yes, the treatment of the timelines was so poor that first time I didnt know we were in the past after some minutes in hehe.
I guess is ok, also didnt like much the acting, starting with the main character.
And last but not least:
Spoiler:
the history didnt advance much in those 8 episodes, for me there was a lot of filling minutes that didnt add much to the history


I'm not really sure exactly what your spoiler tagged comment means or why it is tagged as a spoiler. I guess I can see how someone can walk away from watching this and think "wow, not much happened" but I personally would disagree.


I don't really care about two timelines, as I have no problem following that stuff. But is it compelling, interesting. It's weird reading about the Mandalorian. I am a big Star Wars fan and I haven't watched it but I hear people saying it's not that great except the little Yoda is cute. That sounds very strange to me. Doesn't sound like that would be enough to keep watching it. Do either of them really leave you wondering at the end of the episode "I really want to see what's going to happen next" or "This is really interesting...lets see how this develops."?

Honestly it's like watching a version of Star Trek in the Star Wars universe. Not bad by any means, but not exactly compelling either.
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Post#820 » by MrMiyagi » Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:06 am

SuperSunsFan wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:
SuperSunsFan wrote:anyone want to talk star wars? I have to say the new trilogy blew the original out of the water.
I disagree, but I'm glad you enjoyed it.

The original was never popular because of its amazing story or characterization, it is only now that a star wars is being judged solely on its story and if it doesn't adhered to a very specific way hardcore fans wanted it to be exactly it gets trashed. how about enjoying for its amazing editing, photography, art direction, and the soundtrack? simple and basic functional story structure with light humors and likeable characters as a backdrop to showcase state of the art SFX has always been the way the original was designed. For Christ sake in episode 4 clearly by design there was a love triangle between all the principle characters, Lucas changed course in the second and forced onto us this leia is Luke's sister bs and somehow the original is now being treated as the pinnacle of story telling? give me a break. did we know anything about Han Solo besides him being a cynical outside but heroic inside space pirate who used to only look out for himself until he made friend with Luke and Leia and reluctantly join the resistance, but no all of a sudden new star wars films are being judged by these very unfair criteria. nostalgia has skewed the way people's perception on their favorite movies, when they used this indestructible skewed version to judge new entries of the franchise of course they were all garbage.
I really like the reverse hero arc of the trilogy that Kylo Ren had to complete his sith training by severing all his ties to the light side in the form seeking out his blood relatives and killing them one by one, that is an amazing idea and despite some hiccups it was most realized successfully. somehow the fans hated the last jedi because of the bold moves they took (Luke tempted by the dark side which causes Ben to fall, Kylo Ren join forces with Rey in the middle of trilogy to take down the supposedly end boss and became the end boss himself, Luke using his spirit form to fight Kylo Ren from afar) and hated it again for playing too safely this time around (the last arc is pretty much a conglomeration of all the best elements of recent disney successes in case you don't notice - rey's parentage - star lord, allies showing up to save the day - end game)
That was quite the diatribe. All I said is I disagree that it blows the original trilogy out of the water. I didn't say I hated it, or that you were wrong for having your opinion. I think the new trilogy okay, much like the prequels are okay (to me).

The thing that irks me about the new Star Wars movies (and I'm including Rogue One and Solo as well as 7, 8, and 9) is that they haven't really illicited any sort of emotional reaction from me when their characters succeed or fail, and I don't think it's because I'm just a heartless bastard now, I just don't think that the new movies do a good enough job of establishing their own characters, but instead keep thrusting nostalgia into my face, which is a shame because the cast of the new trilogy are all wonderful actors.
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