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Post#801 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:30 pm

Jdiddy701 wrote:I wouldn’t mind to see this drag out long to then get traded to a bad team. Ever since that tweet, i can’t stand Eric Bledsoe. People coming down on the suns organization is not right to me. Bledsoe could have handled this so much better.


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I understand this line of thinking and I imagine McD is upset with Bledsoe and it would feel good to stick it to him and his crew. But part of being a good leader is making decisions that make intellectual sense that might not be emotionally gratifying. And to me getting this mess behind them is whats best for the franchise. Take your PR beating this week and move on. By letting this drag out it only guarantees this will continue to be talked about and dissected.

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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#803 » by JMac1 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:40 pm

What ever we get for Bledsoe is a win in my book. We already have two guys that could be our 1-2 punch and could add a third in 2018, with Chriss and Bender still trying to show that they may have the ability to be big contributors and TJ being a 6th man, I am happy with that. Add in the fact that Bledsoe could bring something in a trade is just bonus.
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#804 » by RunDogGun » Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:36 pm

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Nah, we're keeping Frank ... as far as I know. :lol:

That doesn’t mean you won’t do it though, since neither you nor I make any team descisions. Our second rounder was pretty high this last draft, which means you could still get a decent player, that doesn’t have to be guaranteed. Lee for us is not needed, we still have Knight, Reed, and currently Daniels, all behind Booker as it is. And TJ and Jackson taking all the sf mins, with Bender being able to take spot up minutes at that position.

Although I really like O’Quinn, you really aren’t giving me much to work with for Bledsoe. Plus you are trying to keep KP, so I think the trade is pretty even currently.


I'd be shocked if we traded Frank without even seeing him on the court. Plus, Bledsoe's health history isn't exactly inspiring.

I think your view of Bledsoe's value around the league is a little inflated. What other offers are you guys getting from other teams around the league for him?

I’m not part of the admin, so I don’t know what other offers we are getting, but I doubt we take back Lee in a trade unless we get something better than O’Quinn.

I get the injury concern, but I never said anything about value for Bledsoe, I just said what I would ask for. But I totally understand if you wanted to see more than eight minutes from Frank. I’d be concerned if you can’t get talent around KP soon. Have a good day, no need to continue with it.
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#805 » by jbk1234 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:14 pm

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Just an FYI - Haynes was basically run out of Cleveland because he served as Klutch's mouthpiece while writing for the local paper.

I think McDonough has done plenty wrong, Bledsoe has as well, but Haynes is not a reliable reporter when it comes to matters involving Klutch.
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#806 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:36 pm

RunDogGun wrote:
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RunDogGun wrote:That doesn’t mean you won’t do it though, since neither you nor I make any team descisions. Our second rounder was pretty high this last draft, which means you could still get a decent player, that doesn’t have to be guaranteed. Lee for us is not needed, we still have Knight, Reed, and currently Daniels, all behind Booker as it is. And TJ and Jackson taking all the sf mins, with Bender being able to take spot up minutes at that position.

Although I really like O’Quinn, you really aren’t giving me much to work with for Bledsoe. Plus you are trying to keep KP, so I think the trade is pretty even currently.


I'd be shocked if we traded Frank without even seeing him on the court. Plus, Bledsoe's health history isn't exactly inspiring.

I think your view of Bledsoe's value around the league is a little inflated. What other offers are you guys getting from other teams around the league for him?

I’m not part of the admin, so I don’t know what other offers we are getting, but I doubt we take back Lee in a trade unless we get something better than O’Quinn.

I get the injury concern, but I never said anything about value for Bledsoe, I just said what I would ask for. But I totally understand if you wanted to see more than eight minutes from Frank. I’d be concerned if you can’t get talent around KP soon. Have a good day, no need to continue with it.


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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#807 » by kennydorglas » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:47 pm

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Just an FYI - Haynes was basically run out of Cleveland because he served as Klutch's mouthpiece while writing for the local paper.

I think McDonough has done plenty wrong, Bledsoe has as well, but Haynes is not a reliable reporter when it comes to matters involving Klutch.


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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#808 » by Kerrsed » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:48 pm

I'd do Kanter/Frank. :dontknow:
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#809 » by jcsunsfan » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:50 pm

kennydorglas wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
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Just an FYI - Haynes was basically run out of Cleveland because he served as Klutch's mouthpiece while writing for the local paper.

I think McDonough has done plenty wrong, Bledsoe has as well, but Haynes is not a reliable reporter when it comes to matters involving Klutch.


I figured it out pretty quickly. It's amazing how much power Klutch already has.


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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#810 » by Blackification » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:11 pm

McD must really hate Bledsoe and Rich Paul, he is really trashing him at every opportunity
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#811 » by jcsunsfan » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:33 pm

Blackification wrote:McD must really hate Bledsoe and Rich Paul, he is really trashing him at every opportunity


Its not about hate. He is just telling the truth. Bledsoe signed a four year deal and now wants out. He has an obligation to honor his deal. He is getting bad advice. I think McD likes Bledsoe, but believe Rich Paul is ruining him.
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Post#812 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:43 pm

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What's the difference between star potential and huge upside?

High ceiling, low risk vs High ceiling, high risk?
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#813 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:55 pm

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bwgood77 wrote:Hadn't seen this yet...

Frustrated with the direction of the team, its whiffs in free agency and questionable personnel moves during his four years with the franchise, Bledsoe expressed that it was time he moved on, sources said. Bledsoe was then told by management, according to sources, that the team had underperformed ever since he was given starting point guard responsibilities.


http://www.espn.com/blog/nba/post/_/id/32536/suns-gm-calls-out-bledsoe-and-agent-rich-paul

And it is absolutely true.

Even if it was true, it's a stunningly stupid thing to say and part ways with a player. I mean, it's mind-blowing that our front office would be this unprofessional.

Could've easily just agreed with Bledsoe that it was time for both parties to move on and left it at that. The fact that this extra tidbit had been leaked just adds insult to injury to the Suns' once great reputation.
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Post#814 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:58 pm

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I've only ever seen his tweets and for some reason I always thought he was a white dude
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#815 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:59 pm

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Blackification wrote:McD must really hate Bledsoe and Rich Paul, he is really trashing him at every opportunity


Its not about hate. He is just telling the truth. Bledsoe signed a four year deal and now wants out. He has an obligation to honor his deal. He is getting bad advice. I think McD likes Bledsoe, but believe Rich Paul is ruining him.

Dealing with Rich Paul the first time around was a nightmare and I don't think that relationship has ever improved.
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#816 » by Blackification » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:31 am

jcsunsfan wrote:
Blackification wrote:McD must really hate Bledsoe and Rich Paul, he is really trashing him at every opportunity


Its not about hate. He is just telling the truth. Bledsoe signed a four year deal and now wants out. He has an obligation to honor his deal. He is getting bad advice. I think McD likes Bledsoe, but believe Rich Paul is ruining him.

In some cases the truth is better left unsaid, I would think most GMs would give a more political answer until the situation was resolved, but it seems like he really wants to make it known that bledsoe lied and the comments about Bledsoe starting and his leadership although true are not helping his trade value.

On top of that this is the GM who has had three players demand a trade in messy situations
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#817 » by ryanball » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:58 am

lilfishi22 wrote:Even if it was true, it's a stunningly stupid thing to say and part ways with a player. I mean, it's mind-blowing that our front office would be this unprofessional.

Could've easily just agreed with Bledsoe that it was time for both parties to move on and left it at that. The fact that this extra tidbit had been leaked just adds insult to injury to the Suns' once great reputation.


Personally I'm fed up with these players and perhaps even more with their agents. I think McD is also and I congratulate him for calling it out.

Reputation is overrated in my view. What is the reputation anyway, that we roll over to every whim of these divas? The Suns are one of a very few entities in this world offering to pay these clowns tens of millions of dollars to move a ball around, no further incentive is warranted.

When a clown is unhappy and wants to cry in public about it then professionalism is already out the window. Just usher in the next clown and hope it works out better, we will find no shortage of them.
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#818 » by bwgood77 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:00 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
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What's the difference between star potential and huge upside?

High ceiling, low risk vs High ceiling, high risk?


Yeah, reading that just now after clicking on your notification I thought. "Huge upside means more that currently you probably suck or have proven zilch." He could apply that to all sorts of people. Beasley, Wilson, Mudiay.

I was reading about Beasley today (Malik Beasley) as a potential piece of a Nuggets trade. He sounds somewhat intriguing even though we have three shooting guards. When I started looking, I was only thinking we had Daniels for this year. Didn't realize he had another two. But the read on Beasley is pretty good.

Now 23 games into his freshman season at Florida State, Beasley has steadily become one of the most productive and efficient freshmen in all of college basketball. Among RSCI 2015 Top 100 recruits, Beasley is third in points per game behind likely No. 1 pick Ben Simmons and potential lottery pick Jamal Murray. Beasley is scoring at an extremely efficient clip, and doing so in the storied Atlantic Coast Conference. He scored 23 points (16 shots) against Louisville, the second-best defense in the country according to KenPom.com. He scored 17 points (10 shots) on defensive juggernaut Virginia, and 20 points (17 shots) on Iowa, the 11th-best defensive team in the country, efficiency-wise.

Beasley has scored 20 points or more nine times this season and has scored in double figures in all of his collegiate games. Needless to say, Beasley has been consistent, efficient, and productive, and NBA scouts are certainly starting to take notice of the freshman from Alpharetta, GA.

Beasley is scoring at a historically efficient rate uncommon among players his age in the ACC (stats from the DraftExpress Database): • Since 1992, only two ACC guards have averaged more than 17 points per game while posting a true shooting percentage over 60 percent: Kyrie Irving (11 games played) and Malik Beasley. • Since 2000, only nine ACC guards under the age of 20 have averaged more 17 points per game. Of those nine, only three shot over 50 percent from 2-point range and 40 percent from 3-point range: Irving, Beasley and Rashad McCants. • Beasley is the only freshman guard in the country scoring more than 20 points per 40 minutes while shooting over 55 percent from 2-point range and 40 percent from 3-point range. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Malik-Beasley-76405/ ©DraftExpress


I know we don't really NEED another SG, but we do need shooters. More importantly, we need an asset with that upside. So if we do a deal with Denver, and can't get Juancho, I'd insist this guy be included. Of course it's tough with a full roster.
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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#819 » by bwgood77 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:02 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
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I've only ever seen his tweets and for some reason I always thought he was a white dude


If you see his tweets, how do you figure he is a white dude? Here is an example tweet:

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Re: Eric Bledsoe 

Post#820 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:13 am

bwgood77 wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
Saberestar wrote:
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I've only ever seen his tweets and for some reason I always thought he was a white dude


If you see his tweets, how do you figure he is a white dude? Here is an example tweet:

Read on Twitter

I don't really use Twitter and sometimes only see the contained text.

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