The 2016 Offseason Thread

[DirtyDez]

Devin took 2 dumps yesterday.... Average NBA players take one.

He is special

And Frank dumps all day - making him an extra special poster

I take 3-4 massive (and I mean -MASSIVE-) **** a day.

Morning - 30 minutes after I wake up. This is the biggest **** of my day.

Afternoon - lunch time

And then 1-2 more at night, one usually when I get home from work and one before I go to bed.

Taco Bell diet eh?

[thamadkant]

Devin took 2 dumps yesterday.... Average NBA players take one.

He is special

I heard the smell is also above average.

[Frank Lee]

The doldrums of summer....

[letsgosuns]

If the Suns want in on next year's superstar free agents, it is critical the team plays well this coming season. No big time free agent is interested in going to a team that is not at least a decent team. Imo, the target is most likely Westbrook. The reason I say that is because Earl Watson played with Westbrook during Westbrook's rookie year, so they should already have a relationship with each other. Assuming they got along, that connection could help dramatically towards the Suns becoming a serious suitor for Westbrook. We already saw how paramount Watson was in the negotiation process involving Aldridge and the same could prove true with Westbrook. Again, this is predicated on the Suns playing at a high level and looking like a team on the rise. Hopefully that happens. Otherwise, Westbrook or any of the other free agents are not going to want to sign with the Suns.

[LukasBMW]

And Frank dumps all day - making him an extra special poster

I take 3-4 massive (and I mean -MASSIVE-) **** a day.

Morning - 30 minutes after I wake up. This is the biggest **** of my day.

Afternoon - lunch time

And then 1-2 more at night, one usually when I get home from work and one before I go to bed.

Taco Bell diet eh?

Nah, just a lot of meat a fiber. I'm trying to get back into playing shape. LOL.

I'm 5'9". If Tyler Ulis is 5'10", then I think I have a shot at camp next year.

[bwgood77]

If the Suns want in on next year's superstar free agents, it is critical the team plays well this coming season. No big time free agent is interested in going to a team that is not at least a decent team. Imo, the target is most likely Westbrook. The reason I say that is because Earl Watson played with Westbrook during Westbrook's rookie year, so they should already have a relationship with each other. Assuming they got along, that connection could help dramatically towards the Suns becoming a serious suitor for Westbrook. We already saw how paramount Watson was in the negotiation process involving Aldridge and the same could prove true with Westbrook. Again, this is predicated on the Suns playing at a high level and looking like a team on the rise. Hopefully that happens. Otherwise, Westbrook or any of the other free agents are not going to want to sign with the Suns.

I like Westbrook and watching him, but I'd rather him not be on the Suns. I want Booker to get as many shots as possible and be our focal point. I want a pass first pg. He ends up with a ton of assists, but he also takes a lot of shots that should not be taken. I think he's taken the most 3 pt shots ever by a player who shoots under 30%..or if not the most, he close and has a lot of career left. I think our chances at him are extremely slim though and I really don't think he will even be a target.

[LukasBMW]

If the Suns want in on next year's superstar free agents, it is critical the team plays well this coming season. No big time free agent is interested in going to a team that is not at least a decent team. Imo, the target is most likely Westbrook. The reason I say that is because Earl Watson played with Westbrook during Westbrook's rookie year, so they should already have a relationship with each other. Assuming they got along, that connection could help dramatically towards the Suns becoming a serious suitor for Westbrook. We already saw how paramount Watson was in the negotiation process involving Aldridge and the same could prove true with Westbrook. Again, this is predicated on the Suns playing at a high level and looking like a team on the rise. Hopefully that happens. Otherwise, Westbrook or any of the other free agents are not going to want to sign with the Suns.

I think we are keeping our season flexible. If we come out of the gate strong and are fighting for a playoff spot, I'd expect a midseason trade where we ship off some assets for a star to make a playoff push. Then we try to add another star or two via free agency.

If we stumble out of the gate or injuries prevent us from being in the playoff mix, I bet we trade some of our older guys for younger guys and tank to get a high pick in a loaded draft.

[letsgosuns]

If the Suns want in on next year's superstar free agents, it is critical the team plays well this coming season. No big time free agent is interested in going to a team that is not at least a decent team. Imo, the target is most likely Westbrook. The reason I say that is because Earl Watson played with Westbrook during Westbrook's rookie year, so they should already have a relationship with each other. Assuming they got along, that connection could help dramatically towards the Suns becoming a serious suitor for Westbrook. We already saw how paramount Watson was in the negotiation process involving Aldridge and the same could prove true with Westbrook. Again, this is predicated on the Suns playing at a high level and looking like a team on the rise. Hopefully that happens. Otherwise, Westbrook or any of the other free agents are not going to want to sign with the Suns.

I like Westbrook and watching him, but I'd rather him not be on the Suns. I want Booker to get as many shots as possible and be our focal point. I want a pass first pg. He ends up with a ton of assists, but he also takes a lot of shots that should not be taken. I think he's taken the most 3 pt shots ever by a player who shoots under 30%..or if not the most, he close and has a lot of career left. I think our chances at him are extremely slim though and I really don't think he will even be a target.

I felt the same way about Kyrie Irving and then he won the championship. Of course he had Lebron but Irving is a pure scoring point guard and hardly passes the ball sometimes. So it is possible for an offense with a score first point guard to win the title, granted there are other stars on the team. The other thing is that I would rather have Westbrook than Bledsoe/Knight for obvious reasons. If the Suns could legitimately sign Westbrook, how could you pass up on him? The guy is a top five player in the league. His stats are ridiculous. I think a Westbrook/Booker backcourt could be amazing.

[bwgood77]

If the Suns want in on next year's superstar free agents, it is critical the team plays well this coming season. No big time free agent is interested in going to a team that is not at least a decent team. Imo, the target is most likely Westbrook. The reason I say that is because Earl Watson played with Westbrook during Westbrook's rookie year, so they should already have a relationship with each other. Assuming they got along, that connection could help dramatically towards the Suns becoming a serious suitor for Westbrook. We already saw how paramount Watson was in the negotiation process involving Aldridge and the same could prove true with Westbrook. Again, this is predicated on the Suns playing at a high level and looking like a team on the rise. Hopefully that happens. Otherwise, Westbrook or any of the other free agents are not going to want to sign with the Suns.

I like Westbrook and watching him, but I'd rather him not be on the Suns. I want Booker to get as many shots as possible and be our focal point. I want a pass first pg. He ends up with a ton of assists, but he also takes a lot of shots that should not be taken. I think he's taken the most 3 pt shots ever by a player who shoots under 30%..or if not the most, he close and has a lot of career left. I think our chances at him are extremely slim though and I really don't think he will even be a target.

I felt the same way about Kyrie Irving and then he won the championship. Of course he had Lebron but Irving is a pure scoring point guard and hardly passes the ball sometimes. So it is possible for an offense with a score first point guard to win the title, granted there are other stars on the team. The other thing is that I would rather have Westbrook than Bledsoe/Knight for obvious reasons. If the Suns could legitimately sign Westbrook, how could you pass up on him? The guy is a top five player in the league. His stats are ridiculous. I think a Westbrook/Booker backcourt could be amazing.

OK, I would love to have Westbrook over Bledsoe and Knight, and would love having him on our team (once we had him) but I don't think our team is near ready to get over any sort of hump, and his usage is SO high that he could take away a bit from what I think Booker can become. I know this post is contradictory to my earlier post, and if we did sign him I'd be super excited, but I don't think that is really the right way to go with this team right now and I don't think we would have a chance anyway. He may leave OKC, but I don't see ANY way he leaves that team for this one at this point. I think we need to grow organically mostly if we really plan on contending...and then add that impact free agent when we are close.

And Kyrie gets nowhere without LeBron, and despite Curry's recent success, LeBron is the best player in the league and probably one of the top 5 or maybe 3 players ever.

[letsgosuns]

I like Westbrook and watching him, but I'd rather him not be on the Suns. I want Booker to get as many shots as possible and be our focal point. I want a pass first pg. He ends up with a ton of assists, but he also takes a lot of shots that should not be taken. I think he's taken the most 3 pt shots ever by a player who shoots under 30%..or if not the most, he close and has a lot of career left. I think our chances at him are extremely slim though and I really don't think he will even be a target.

I felt the same way about Kyrie Irving and then he won the championship. Of course he had Lebron but Irving is a pure scoring point guard and hardly passes the ball sometimes. So it is possible for an offense with a score first point guard to win the title, granted there are other stars on the team. The other thing is that I would rather have Westbrook than Bledsoe/Knight for obvious reasons. If the Suns could legitimately sign Westbrook, how could you pass up on him? The guy is a top five player in the league. His stats are ridiculous. I think a Westbrook/Booker backcourt could be amazing.

OK, I would love to have Westbrook over Bledsoe and Knight, and would love having him on our team (once we had him) but I don't think our team is near ready to get over any sort of hump, and his usage is SO high that he could take away a bit from what I think Booker can become. I know this post is contradictory to my earlier post, and if we did sign him I'd be super excited, but I don't think that is really the right way to go with this team right now and I don't think we would have a chance anyway. He may leave OKC, but I don't see ANY way he leaves that team for this one at this point. I think we need to grow organically mostly if we really plan on contending...and then add that impact free agent when we are close.

And Kyrie gets nowhere without LeBron, and despite Curry's recent success, LeBron is the best player in the league and probably one of the top 5 or maybe 3 players ever.

Well that is why I said if the Suns play well and at a high level this coming season he could be interested. If the team is not good then he is not going to come to the Suns. But if the Suns can surprise people and make the playoffs or at least look like a good team, a guy like Westbrook might think he can take them over the top. Personally, I am so much higher on this Suns team than probably most fans on this board. I certainly think they are far more talented than the 48 win Suns team from a few years ago. I never liked that team at all and always thought it was a fluke they won that many games.

Look at the difference from last year to this year just on paper:
Out- Markieff, Leuer, Teletovich, Price, Budinger, Weems
In- Bender, Chriss, Ulis, Dudley, Barbosa, probably Williams is back too
Returning from injury- Bledsoe, Warren, Knight

Based on who is off the team and who is on the team now, that alone should make the Suns much better. Nobody cares about the guys that left. If the Suns can show a potential similar to what the 2003-04 team did after Marbury and Hardaway were traded, then maybe they can get Westbrook the way the Suns got Nash, only this time it will hopefully lead to winning a championship.

[DRK]

Devin took 2 dumps yesterday.... Average NBA players take one.

He is special

And Frank dumps all day - making him an extra special poster

I take 3-4 massive (and I mean -MASSIVE-) **** a day.

Morning - 30 minutes after I wake up. This is the biggest **** of my day.

Afternoon - lunch time

And then 1-2 more at night, one usually when I get home from work and one before I go to bed.

Why dont you **** to completion before bed, instead of going a massive **** before bed and another massive **** right after you wake up?

If you just empty your bowels at night to completion, there would be no reason for you to have to take another massive **** right after you wake up ( assuming you havent eaten anything between you two allocated **** times)

[bwgood77]

I felt the same way about Kyrie Irving and then he won the championship. Of course he had Lebron but Irving is a pure scoring point guard and hardly passes the ball sometimes. So it is possible for an offense with a score first point guard to win the title, granted there are other stars on the team. The other thing is that I would rather have Westbrook than Bledsoe/Knight for obvious reasons. If the Suns could legitimately sign Westbrook, how could you pass up on him? The guy is a top five player in the league. His stats are ridiculous. I think a Westbrook/Booker backcourt could be amazing.

OK, I would love to have Westbrook over Bledsoe and Knight, and would love having him on our team (once we had him) but I don't think our team is near ready to get over any sort of hump, and his usage is SO high that he could take away a bit from what I think Booker can become. I know this post is contradictory to my earlier post, and if we did sign him I'd be super excited, but I don't think that is really the right way to go with this team right now and I don't think we would have a chance anyway. He may leave OKC, but I don't see ANY way he leaves that team for this one at this point. I think we need to grow organically mostly if we really plan on contending...and then add that impact free agent when we are close.

And Kyrie gets nowhere without LeBron, and despite Curry's recent success, LeBron is the best player in the league and probably one of the top 5 or maybe 3 players ever.

Well that is why I said if the Suns play well and at a high level this coming season he could be interested. If the team is not good then he is not going to come to the Suns. But if the Suns can surprise people and make the playoffs or at least look like a good team, a guy like Westbrook might think he can take them over the top. Personally, I am so much higher on this Suns team than probably most fans on this board. I certainly think they are far more talented than the 48 win Suns team from a few years ago. I never liked that team at all and always thought it was a fluke they won that many games.

Look at the difference from last year to this year just on paper:
Out- Markieff, Leuer, Teletovich, Price, Budinger, Weems
In- Bender, Chriss, Ulis, Dudley, Barbosa, probably Williams is back too
Returning from injury- Bledsoe, Warren, Knight

Based on who is off the team and who is on the team now, that alone should make the Suns much better. Nobody cares about the guys that left. If the Suns can show a potential similar to what the 2003-04 team did after Marbury and Hardaway were traded, then maybe they can get Westbrook the way the Suns got Nash, only this time it will hopefully lead to winning a championship.

Well Bender, Chriss and Barbosa will not contribute much to the team at all if they are trying hard to win games, and probably not Ulis either.

If we even sniff that the total wins of that 48 win team that would be a miracle. I know that team was a miracle but I would be pretty shocked. We don't have a real PF on the team at all...I mean not one who is ready to meaningfully contribute in an NBA game.

[NTB]

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[sleepyvato]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/757226421873876992[/tweet]

Good for him, I wish him the best in Memphis.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

I'm hoping we manage to trade PJ before the beginning of the season. He deserves to play, but I think our SF minutes are better spent on TJ, Devin, Jared and the rookies. I would prefer a vet forward who doesn't mind being glued to the bench.

[DirtyDez]

[youtube]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5lcQrvmKanA[/youtube]

The next Dragan in our own back yard?

Edit: I give up trying to post videos and tweets

[Saberestar]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/757226421873876992[/tweet]

I think that we want to start the season with fourteen players on the roster (including Alan Williams getting one spot in September) to have flexibility regarding trades or absorbing contracts.

[Saberestar]

OK, I would love to have Westbrook over Bledsoe and Knight, and would love having him on our team (once we had him) but I don't think our team is near ready to get over any sort of hump, and his usage is SO high that he could take away a bit from what I think Booker can become. I know this post is contradictory to my earlier post, and if we did sign him I'd be super excited, but I don't think that is really the right way to go with this team right now and I don't think we would have a chance anyway. He may leave OKC, but I don't see ANY way he leaves that team for this one at this point. I think we need to grow organically mostly if we really plan on contending...and then add that impact free agent when we are close.

And Kyrie gets nowhere without LeBron, and despite Curry's recent success, LeBron is the best player in the league and probably one of the top 5 or maybe 3 players ever.

Well that is why I said if the Suns play well and at a high level this coming season he could be interested. If the team is not good then he is not going to come to the Suns. But if the Suns can surprise people and make the playoffs or at least look like a good team, a guy like Westbrook might think he can take them over the top. Personally, I am so much higher on this Suns team than probably most fans on this board. I certainly think they are far more talented than the 48 win Suns team from a few years ago. I never liked that team at all and always thought it was a fluke they won that many games.

Look at the difference from last year to this year just on paper:
Out- Markieff, Leuer, Teletovich, Price, Budinger, Weems
In- Bender, Chriss, Ulis, Dudley, Barbosa, probably Williams is back too
Returning from injury- Bledsoe, Warren, Knight

Based on who is off the team and who is on the team now, that alone should make the Suns much better. Nobody cares about the guys that left. If the Suns can show a potential similar to what the 2003-04 team did after Marbury and Hardaway were traded, then maybe they can get Westbrook the way the Suns got Nash, only this time it will hopefully lead to winning a championship.

Well Bender, Chriss and Barbosa will not contribute much to the team at all if they are trying hard to win games, and probably not Ulis either.

If we even sniff that the total wins of that 48 win team that would be a miracle. I know that team was a miracle but I would be pretty shocked. We don't have a real PF on the team at all...I mean not one who is ready to meaningfully contribute in an NBA game.

If Barbosa played 15 minutes per game last season on a legendary team he is gonna play at least around those minutes on our team.

I think that our team is gonna surprise a ton of people... I sincerely think that we are going to fight for a playoff spot until the end of the regular season and I wouldn't be shocked if we end seventh or eighth in the West and finally go to the playoffs.

[carey]

I think that we want to start the season with fourteen players on the roster (including Alan Williams getting one spot in September) to have flexibility regarding trades or absorbing contracts.

That would mean not keeping Jenkins as well.

[Fo-Real]

Would not be sad to see Jenkins go.