The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2

[BobbieL]

It's likely going to be the Spurs for KD. He probably wants to go there and finish out his career. Suns will do him a solid by sending him there. Hopefully Nets get in on it and we at least get Cam Johnson back.

I can see Ishbia being hypnotized by the allure of KAT

Does KAT have any ties to Michigan?

He has ties to Booker which will be good enough for Ishbia

Ishbia wants to make a splash I think. Go big baby!!

And KAT would be worse fit than KD

[KdoubleDees23]

I can see Ishbia being hypnotized by the allure of KAT

Does KAT have any ties to Michigan?

He has ties to Booker which will be good enough for Ishbia

Ishbia wants to make a splash I think. Go big baby!!

And KAT would be worse fit than KD

Why do you hate KAT so much haha he would be better to have than KD with Booker. KD was silent, at least Booker and KAT will have fun

[SlovenianDragon]

I think it would be cool if trades weren't a thing. Just play the hand you dealt yourself.

I think this would have the added benefit of working with players and investing in them since you cant just throw them away...

Im also not a fan of mercenary teams...

If the Suns traded everything next year for Doncic, SGA, and Jokic and won the championship...It would feel hollow.... Just a random group of guys...

IDK...Theres something to be said about having a connection with the players/team.

**** KD. Suns suck.

[BobbieL]

Does KAT have any ties to Michigan?

He has ties to Booker which will be good enough for Ishbia

Ishbia wants to make a splash I think. Go big baby!!

And KAT would be worse fit than KD

Why do you hate KAT so much haha he would be better to have than KD with Booker. KD was silent, at least Booker and KAT will have fun

I don't hate him. He is a good player
He is just a terrible fit next to Booker. I think he is worse next to Booker than Durant. Towns is slow and would be a major liability on defense when Booker is already a liability on defense. It would be the TWolves of Ant and Towns without Gobert. Not fun to watch

Yep - they will have fun making $120m - each scoring over 20ppg and the team winning like 36 games --

[KdoubleDees23]

I think it would be cool if trades weren't a thing. Just play the hand you dealt yourself.

I think this would have the added benefit of working with players and investing in them since you cant just throw them away...

Im also not a fan of mercenary teams...

If the Suns traded everything next year for Doncic, SGA, and Jokic and won the championship...It would feel hollow.... Just a random group of guys...

IDK...Theres something to be said about having a connection with the players/team.

**** KD. Suns suck.

I wonder how the NBA would be if it was like this. No trades, whoever you draft, you ride with till their contract is over. Big teams would still get the stars with contracts.

[KdoubleDees23]

I would take an under .500 without KD and Beal over what we have right now. This team was put together by a kid, who doesn't know how to build a team.

[bwgood77]

If this is true, that's alarming. It could mean he didn't like all these rounds of interviews (if you don't already know you want me then you don't want me).
Or maybe he recognizes how poorly run the circus is and wants no part of it.

Read on Twitter

He probably saw Devin Booker sitting in on the interview and thought "I don't want any part of that."

[bwgood77]

Ishiba is a horrible owner.

For those who wants to enjoy watching basketball as a form of entertainment, save yourself heart ache and head ache by just dumping the Suns and watching another team until this whole thing boils over. It might take a decade or so though. But life is too short to wait.

Being a long time fan of the Suns and watching most all the games until the later stages of this year, I would in a way like to get interested in anothe team, and I really like a lot of the other teams, including the two in the finals. But with these playoffs, I find I have a hard time sitting down and wasting 3 hours on a basketball game that I don't have a totally vested interest in. With the Suns I had/have that, but knowing they won't go anywhere meaningful for years OR be entertaining (in all likelihood) makes it not really worth watching.

But even teams I think are well built, I love the players, think they are a good team to watch, it's still hard to watch an entire basketball game, particularly with all the stoppages for minor fouls and stuff. I do usually have the playoff games on and really pay attention if it's close down the stretch but that's about it.

I can't see randomly watching regular season games of another team. Though I imagine I'm not as big of an NBA fan as a whole as many..I still follow everything closely, watch the ends of close games, follow players, #s, stats, etc. But watching mostly meaningless games during the regular season of another team is kind of tough for me.

[KdoubleDees23]

Ishiba is a horrible owner.

For those who wants to enjoy watching basketball as a form of entertainment, save yourself heart ache and head ache by just dumping the Suns and watching another team until this whole thing boils over. It might take a decade or so though. But life is too short to wait.

Being a long time fan of the Suns and watching most all the games until the later stages of this year, I would in a way like to get interested in anothe team, and I really like a lot of the other teams, including the two in the finals. But with these playoffs, I find I have a hard time sitting down and wasting 3 hours on a basketball game that I don't have a totally vested interest in. With the Suns I had/have that, but knowing they won't go anywhere meaningful for years OR be entertaining (in all likelihood) makes it not really worth watching.

But even teams I think are well built, I love the players, think they are a good team to watch, it's still hard to watch an entire basketball game, particularly with all the stoppages for minor fouls and stuff. I do usually have the playoff games on and really pay attention if it's close down the stretch but that's about it.

I can't see randomly watching regular season games of another team. Though I imagine I'm not as big of an NBA fan as a whole as many..I still follow everything closely, watch the ends of close games, follow players, #s, stats, etc. But watching mostly meaningless games during the regular season of another team is kind of tough for me.

Go to a home game in OKC. It will make you love that team.

Also I feel like NBA is no longer a team fan sport. Its more of a player first fandom. Players move, teams change, but if you like following certain players, thats ok.

[bwgood77]

I hope for the sake of the PHX Suns it’s not Ott

He was assistant for the Nets and always gave half time interviews, this guy didn’t know what he was talking about 80% of the time

What I get from him he was a YES man to higher authority ( read front office ) , he’s not a guy with the backbone like Carlisle , Spoelstra , rather a hard worker in the regime but I don’t see how he can be a great HC candidate, I just don’t

Sounds like he'll fit perfectly with rest of FO so it's him.

I hope you hire someone else and that’s wishing Suns well , maybe Ishbia needs a Yes men , but Suns needs someone like Atkinson , Spo, Carlisle even Jordi , not Ott , Ott is going backwards

Yeah, but I wouldn't be surprised if they just wanted a yes man. But I don't think the Suns are going anywhere for quite some time no matter who is coach.

You must be stoked about the Pacers. We all wanted haliburton here in the draft (or most of us) not only because he was falling but bevcause we needed a PG of the future for years (we knew Paul was just at the tale end of his career and not our long term guy) but alas, we took Jalen Smith, who I guess you know well too.

A lot of us liked Toppin too. And wanted Siakam in trade.

Anyway, I've pulled for the Pacers in the east for years. I think they will obviously have a tough time with the Thunder was would anyone, but hope they put up a fight, I know the Pacers were one of the best teams in the league after they started 16-18 or whatever it was.

ETA - I just realized you are someone who has posted here before and is a Nets fan and likely just changed your logo to the Pacers for the finals (or playoffs)....oops....well my comments are still all true.

[bwgood77]

Here's the quote from the article.

This is not to say the Rockets and Suns are not in communication. On the contrary, Phoenix is aggressive in pursuit of a) trading Kevin Durant and b) regaining full control of their draft capital starting with the No. 10 pick in next month’s draft, team sources said. Since the conclusion of the season, Houston has fielded several calls from Phoenix, who have since gradually lowered their asking price for Durant, those sources said. There is a price where the Rockets would be interested, but with a fear of breaking up their roster for a 36-year-old coming off injury, doubt remains over a deal materializing.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6396071/2025/06/03/rockets-steven-adams-giannis-antetokounmpo-nba-draft/

I'd rather just get our 27 and 29 picks than the 10 pick. This draft isn't that great. But I doubt they will give us both of those back for KD.

[bwgood77]

I think it would be cool if trades weren't a thing. Just play the hand you dealt yourself.

I think this would have the added benefit of working with players and investing in them since you cant just throw them away...

Im also not a fan of mercenary teams...

If the Suns traded everything next year for Doncic, SGA, and Jokic and won the championship...It would feel hollow.... Just a random group of guys...

IDK...Theres something to be said about having a connection with the players/team.

**** KD. Suns suck.

That would be cool and we kept our team prior to the KD trade, and had drafted Haliburton, especially since we wouldn't have had Paul or Rubio.

[BobbieL]

Here's the quote from the article.

This is not to say the Rockets and Suns are not in communication. On the contrary, Phoenix is aggressive in pursuit of a) trading Kevin Durant and b) regaining full control of their draft capital starting with the No. 10 pick in next month’s draft, team sources said. Since the conclusion of the season, Houston has fielded several calls from Phoenix, who have since gradually lowered their asking price for Durant, those sources said. There is a price where the Rockets would be interested, but with a fear of breaking up their roster for a 36-year-old coming off injury, doubt remains over a deal materializing.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6396071/2025/06/03/rockets-steven-adams-giannis-antetokounmpo-nba-draft/

I'd rather just get our 27 and 29 picks than the 10 pick. This draft isn't that great. But I doubt they will give us both of those back for KD.

Knicks just fired Thibodeau
Interesting to see if they go after Durant

Could Durant, Brunson and Towns co-exist?

[Bogyo]

Here's the quote from the article.



https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6396071/2025/06/03/rockets-steven-adams-giannis-antetokounmpo-nba-draft/

I'd rather just get our 27 and 29 picks than the 10 pick. This draft isn't that great. But I doubt they will give us both of those back for KD.

Knicks just fired Thibodeau
Interesting to see if they go after Durant

Could Durant, Brunson and Towns co-exist?

Just for shts and giggles I would LOVE to see Bookers face in real time if we hired Thibs as coach
It would never happen in real life, but a hardasss coach would be good for an ego/mindset check. Not that he would listen to him (or any other coach by now), but it would be funny

[bwgood77]

Here's the quote from the article.



https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6396071/2025/06/03/rockets-steven-adams-giannis-antetokounmpo-nba-draft/

I'd rather just get our 27 and 29 picks than the 10 pick. This draft isn't that great. But I doubt they will give us both of those back for KD.

Knicks just fired Thibodeau
Interesting to see if they go after Durant

Could Durant, Brunson and Towns co-exist?

Oh, did Bliss pull out of our search too? I wouldn't be surprised if Quinn (and Bliss if he did) pulled out because the Knicks job opened up and/or they were contacted about it.

It makes sense for the Knicks to hire a coach more like Bliss who is used to working with a younger team. Now NY isn't super young but they have some young players and their core is still pretty young.

I don't see why they'd trade KAT for KD, though I don't know what their cap concerns may be. Or any of their players for KD. I don't think teams are typically nearly as antsy Ishbia is or as many here seem to believe a team that just started being a contender would kind of blow up a very solid pretty young nice core to throw a 37 year old KD into the mix.

I do think he would want to play there though. Minnesota makes a little more sense to me as a team wanting him because they likely would give up Randle, Reid and a pick...though I guess they can't if those guys opt out. Plus they are a small market that probably would be a bit more desperate.

[BobbieL]

I'd rather just get our 27 and 29 picks than the 10 pick. This draft isn't that great. But I doubt they will give us both of those back for KD.

Knicks just fired Thibodeau
Interesting to see if they go after Durant

Could Durant, Brunson and Towns co-exist?

Oh, did Bliss pull out of our search too? I wouldn't be surprised if Quinn (and Bliss if he did) pulled out because the Knicks job opened up and/or they were contacted about it.

It makes sense for the Knicks to hire a coach more like Bliss who is used to working with a younger team. Now NY isn't super young but they have some young players and their core is still pretty young.

I don't see why they'd trade KAT for KD, though I don't know what their cap concerns may be. Or any of their players for KD. I don't think teams are typically nearly as antsy Ishbia is or as many here seem to believe a team that just started being a contender would kind of blow up a very solid pretty young nice core to throw a 37 year old KD into the mix.

I do think he would want to play there though. Minnesota makes a little more sense to me as a team wanting him because they likely would give up Randle, Reid and a pick...though I guess they can't if those guys opt out. Plus they are a small market that probably would be a bit more desperate.

I think Houston would be a good partner because they have the Suns picks..

But Ishbia I can see wanting towns straight up for Durant

[bwgood77]

Knicks just fired Thibodeau
Interesting to see if they go after Durant

Could Durant, Brunson and Towns co-exist?

Oh, did Bliss pull out of our search too? I wouldn't be surprised if Quinn (and Bliss if he did) pulled out because the Knicks job opened up and/or they were contacted about it.

It makes sense for the Knicks to hire a coach more like Bliss who is used to working with a younger team. Now NY isn't super young but they have some young players and their core is still pretty young.

I don't see why they'd trade KAT for KD, though I don't know what their cap concerns may be. Or any of their players for KD. I don't think teams are typically nearly as antsy Ishbia is or as many here seem to believe a team that just started being a contender would kind of blow up a very solid pretty young nice core to throw a 37 year old KD into the mix.

I do think he would want to play there though. Minnesota makes a little more sense to me as a team wanting him because they likely would give up Randle, Reid and a pick...though I guess they can't if those guys opt out. Plus they are a small market that probably would be a bit more desperate.

I think Houston would be a good partner because they have the Suns picks..

But Ishbia I can see wanting towns straight up for Durant

Ishbia and Booker, that is.

While a Book/KAT team would be fun to watch a lot....I also get the feeling they would be...

[BobbieL]

Oh, did Bliss pull out of our search too? I wouldn't be surprised if Quinn (and Bliss if he did) pulled out because the Knicks job opened up and/or they were contacted about it.

It makes sense for the Knicks to hire a coach more like Bliss who is used to working with a younger team. Now NY isn't super young but they have some young players and their core is still pretty young.

I don't see why they'd trade KAT for KD, though I don't know what their cap concerns may be. Or any of their players for KD. I don't think teams are typically nearly as antsy Ishbia is or as many here seem to believe a team that just started being a contender would kind of blow up a very solid pretty young nice core to throw a 37 year old KD into the mix.

I do think he would want to play there though. Minnesota makes a little more sense to me as a team wanting him because they likely would give up Randle, Reid and a pick...though I guess they can't if those guys opt out. Plus they are a small market that probably would be a bit more desperate.

I think Houston would be a good partner because they have the Suns picks..

But Ishbia I can see wanting towns straight up for Durant

Ishbia and Booker, that is.

While a Book/KAT team would be fun to watch a lot....I also get the feeling they would be...

Defense would be terrible.

[thamadkant]

Booker and Towns just means both score 25ppg each while Suns win 32 games with worst defense in the league.

[KdoubleDees23]

Thibodeau to the Suns.