The One And Only Offseason Thread 4

[Revived]

Only thing I want the Suns to do regarding this situation is to not cave in.

I don't want them to offer a penny more than what they have already offered. If Bledsoe and his agent really want to play hardball, then let's play it.

If the Suns cave in then their sending a message across the league that with the Suns, all you have to do is not accept their reasonable offer and just wait to get more $$.

[wordsenuff]

found this on sheridanhoops

How will the negotiations between Eric Bledsoe and the Phoenix Suns play out?

SHERIDAN: It will be tough for Bledsoe to leave $48 million on the table, but this is a guy who can be a max player one year from now, and the Lakers will be flush with cap room along with a need for a point guard to supplant Jeremy Lin as the starter for the long-term. Next year’s free agent class is nothing like this year’s free agent class, and Bledsoe can be No. 1 or No. 2 on the list if he can find a way to produce decent numbers in Phoenix despite its point guard glut. So I think he will take the qualifying offer.

BERNUCCA: GM Ryan McDonough’s offer of $48 million for four years is the same the Raptors gave Kyle Lowry and seems fair. And Bledsoe’s request of a maximum $80 million for five years is on par with the deals given John Wall and Kyrie Irving and seems a bit much. But Bledsoe is the only player on Phoenix’s roster who has a chance to be truly special. You would think cooler heads would prevail and the sides could meet in the middle, perhaps at $65 million for five years. But if McDonough isn’t just posturing and truly pinching pennies, he could lose Bledsoe to Atlanta, Milwaukee or Philadelphia, all of whom either have or can create the cap room to make bigger offers.

SPRUNG: Atlanta as a possible destination is a good one. The Hawks have the requisite cap space, tried to trade Jeff Teague for much of last season and have a good platform for Bledsoe to make plays. With Isaiah Thomas, Goran Dragic, Archie Goodwin and rookie Tyler Ennis already on the payroll, the Suns don’t really need Bledsoe. Sure, Bledsoe is the only current Phoenix player who has the potential to be transcendent, but the need isn’t there to overpay. I see this playing out until another team signs Bledsoe to an offer sheet and sets the market for the Suns. Once they see an offer, the Suns will have three days to make an extremely important decision. If there’s a team that wants Bledsoe for the max, it seems like he’s there for the taking.


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[Puff]

If we have offered 4 and $48M as has been reported there is not much else we should do.

I would love to be a fly on the wall in McDonough's office.

I Imagine that Sarver is not very pleased with this agent as well. We not only did not get Lebron we did not get a chance to make our presentation face to face to Lebron. We had a pretty powerful story to tell if we would have got the chance.

Bledsoe really needs to dump his agent. For him not to get an offer from anyone should not be blamed on the Suns. His agent is supposed to be the guy with all the NBA contacts, isn't he?

[Jdiddy701]

I agree.. Bledsoe should dump his agent. It's clear that Rich Paul took care of Lebron before even thinking of Bledsoe and rightfully so because of teams going after him and holding free agency up BUT if I'm Eric Bledsoe I am livid. That's not good business.

An agent should take care of all his clients equally and that clearly didn't happen for Bledsoe and his family.

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[Frank Lee]

Sign the QO and trade him to Cleve for Thompson. Let lebron deal with his little buddy. If Cleve can land Love, Thompson may be moveable. He's one of those Long strong bigs that could be a double double machine here.

50% of something is better than 100% of nothing

Obviously I am in the Trade the Baby camp.
No time for love Dr Jones

[lilfishi22]

You can bet your ass if Bledsoe takes the QO, he will take the first offer out of Phoenix next Summer.
If he does take the QO, he will be traded before the season is over.

Bledsoe will have a no-trade clause if he takes the QO. We would lose almost all leverage other than the fact that we could offer the 5 year max but I doubt the 5 year max is in our plans anyway. If he signs a QO, he's outta here this time next year.

[JDLAW]

found this on sheridanhoops

How will the negotiations between Eric Bledsoe and the Phoenix Suns play out?

SHERIDAN: It will be tough for Bledsoe to leave $48 million on the table, but this is a guy who can be a max player one year from now, and the Lakers will be flush with cap room along with a need for a point guard to supplant Jeremy Lin as the starter for the long-term. Next year’s free agent class is nothing like this year’s free agent class, and Bledsoe can be No. 1 or No. 2 on the list if he can find a way to produce decent numbers in Phoenix despite its point guard glut. So I think he will take the qualifying offer.

BERNUCCA: GM Ryan McDonough’s offer of $48 million for four years is the same the Raptors gave Kyle Lowry and seems fair. And Bledsoe’s request of a maximum $80 million for five years is on par with the deals given John Wall and Kyrie Irving and seems a bit much. But Bledsoe is the only player on Phoenix’s roster who has a chance to be truly special. You would think cooler heads would prevail and the sides could meet in the middle, perhaps at $65 million for five years. But if McDonough isn’t just posturing and truly pinching pennies, he could lose Bledsoe to Atlanta, Milwaukee or Philadelphia, all of whom either have or can create the cap room to make bigger offers.

SPRUNG: Atlanta as a possible destination is a good one. The Hawks have the requisite cap space, tried to trade Jeff Teague for much of last season and have a good platform for Bledsoe to make plays. With Isaiah Thomas, Goran Dragic, Archie Goodwin and rookie Tyler Ennis already on the payroll, the Suns don’t really need Bledsoe. Sure, Bledsoe is the only current Phoenix player who has the potential to be transcendent, but the need isn’t there to overpay. I see this playing out until another team signs Bledsoe to an offer sheet and sets the market for the Suns. Once they see an offer, the Suns will have three days to make an extremely important decision. If there’s a team that wants Bledsoe for the max, it seems like he’s there for the taking.


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Clueless - all three of them. Only Phila has the cap room and they are not interested, but this it 10 days old and things changed. As for LA, they had the opportunity to make an offer and elected not to. No one really knows just why, but they passed and took on Lin. They have their eyes on Durant and Westbrook. Do not think Bledsoe is a real target, but you never know. Would be shocked if he takes the QO, it would be epic failure.

There will be further negotiations and both sides will give a little, there will be a compromise.

BTW is Bledsoe really a transcendent player?

[drewsprocket]

I think Bledsoe has great potential to be but it all. Boils down to health. Once his athleticism gives he's trash. I think he's got a good 4 years in him before his abuse wears him out.

[lilfishi22]

BTW is Bledsoe really a transcendent player?

"Potential" transcendent player. I agree with the guy.

[Stix]

Let history repeat itself and make Atlanta overpay for him like they did with JJ. We can probably get back some good prospects in Payne and Schroder. That's definitely in the realm of a McD deal.

[lilfishi22]

Let history repeat itself and make Atlanta overpay for him like they did with JJ. We can probably get back some good prospects in Payne and Schroder. That's definitely in the realm of a McD deal.

That just reminds me how good our starting 5 was with Prime Nash/JJ/QRich/Prime Trix/Pre-Injury Stat.

[carey]

BTW is Bledsoe really a transcendent player?

It's just like the old saying, "If you have to ask how much it costs then you can't afford it." If you have to ask if he's transcendent you already know the answer.

Every single poster on this board knows why he hasn't received a max offer sheet. The reasons are as follows.
1) Two surgeries & three injuries on the same knee.
2) A turnover machine.
3) Jump shot is very nearly a set shot and the release is fairly slow for a score first point guard.
4) Defense was not as advertised. Though probably the best perimeter defender on the team it was nowhere near the realm of "lock down defender" that many claimed.
5) Most importantly, the Suns have indicated for the last 6 months that they will match any offer sheet.

[carey]

found this on Sheridanhoops.

Sheridan is a hack. Please don't post that garbage here. The fact that Dan Bickley thinks Sheridan broke the LeBron to Cleveland decision is just... ridiculous. No one that isn't a personal friend of Sheridan would say that.

[bwgood77]

Maybe the Suns think Bledsoe playing out his QO wouldn't be the worst thing. He'll be in a contract year and if he proves to be worth it we can afford to extend both he and Dragic. If he gets injured again we're not locked in longterm. I don't think the bridges have been burned despite some frustration from both sides.

You can bet your ass if Bledsoe takes the QO, he will take the first offer out of Phoenix next Summer.
If he does take the QO, he will be traded before the season is over.

He's not going to take the QO, so stop it.

[bwgood77]

found this on sheridanhoops

How will the negotiations between Eric Bledsoe and the Phoenix Suns play out?

SHERIDAN: It will be tough for Bledsoe to leave $48 million on the table, but this is a guy who can be a max player one year from now, and the Lakers will be flush with cap room along with a need for a point guard to supplant Jeremy Lin as the starter for the long-term. Next year’s free agent class is nothing like this year’s free agent class, and Bledsoe can be No. 1 or No. 2 on the list if he can find a way to produce decent numbers in Phoenix despite its point guard glut. So I think he will take the qualifying offer.

BERNUCCA: GM Ryan McDonough’s offer of $48 million for four years is the same the Raptors gave Kyle Lowry and seems fair. And Bledsoe’s request of a maximum $80 million for five years is on par with the deals given John Wall and Kyrie Irving and seems a bit much. But Bledsoe is the only player on Phoenix’s roster who has a chance to be truly special. You would think cooler heads would prevail and the sides could meet in the middle, perhaps at $65 million for five years. But if McDonough isn’t just posturing and truly pinching pennies, he could lose Bledsoe to Atlanta, Milwaukee or Philadelphia, all of whom either have or can create the cap room to make bigger offers.

SPRUNG: Atlanta as a possible destination is a good one. The Hawks have the requisite cap space, tried to trade Jeff Teague for much of last season and have a good platform for Bledsoe to make plays. With Isaiah Thomas, Goran Dragic, Archie Goodwin and rookie Tyler Ennis already on the payroll, the Suns don’t really need Bledsoe. Sure, Bledsoe is the only current Phoenix player who has the potential to be transcendent, but the need isn’t there to overpay. I see this playing out until another team signs Bledsoe to an offer sheet and sets the market for the Suns. Once they see an offer, the Suns will have three days to make an extremely important decision. If there’s a team that wants Bledsoe for the max, it seems like he’s there for the taking.


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I wouldn't mind taking Teague for him plus other assets, but Sheridan is stupid. First of all, the Lakers will not be flush with cap space next summer. They signed everyone to two year contracts to hope to compete with Kobe and to have cap space in 2016. His lack of knowledge is likely what got him fired from ESPN.

[AtheJ415]

Yup. Cooler heads should prevail? With Bledsoe sure, but not with McDonough. McDonough has offered him more than any other team. Why should he move a single penny higher until Bledsoe actually gets a better offer? Bledsoe won't take the QO. It would take the biggest set of balls in NBA history, and besides that it would be horribly stupid. Players don't leave $48 mill on the table. It just doesn't happen.

found this on sheridanhoops

How will the negotiations between Eric Bledsoe and the Phoenix Suns play out?

SHERIDAN: It will be tough for Bledsoe to leave $48 million on the table, but this is a guy who can be a max player one year from now, and the Lakers will be flush with cap room along with a need for a point guard to supplant Jeremy Lin as the starter for the long-term. Next year’s free agent class is nothing like this year’s free agent class, and Bledsoe can be No. 1 or No. 2 on the list if he can find a way to produce decent numbers in Phoenix despite its point guard glut. So I think he will take the qualifying offer.

BERNUCCA: GM Ryan McDonough’s offer of $48 million for four years is the same the Raptors gave Kyle Lowry and seems fair. And Bledsoe’s request of a maximum $80 million for five years is on par with the deals given John Wall and Kyrie Irving and seems a bit much. But Bledsoe is the only player on Phoenix’s roster who has a chance to be truly special. You would think cooler heads would prevail and the sides could meet in the middle, perhaps at $65 million for five years. But if McDonough isn’t just posturing and truly pinching pennies, he could lose Bledsoe to Atlanta, Milwaukee or Philadelphia, all of whom either have or can create the cap room to make bigger offers.

SPRUNG: Atlanta as a possible destination is a good one. The Hawks have the requisite cap space, tried to trade Jeff Teague for much of last season and have a good platform for Bledsoe to make plays. With Isaiah Thomas, Goran Dragic, Archie Goodwin and rookie Tyler Ennis already on the payroll, the Suns don’t really need Bledsoe. Sure, Bledsoe is the only current Phoenix player who has the potential to be transcendent, but the need isn’t there to overpay. I see this playing out until another team signs Bledsoe to an offer sheet and sets the market for the Suns. Once they see an offer, the Suns will have three days to make an extremely important decision. If there’s a team that wants Bledsoe for the max, it seems like he’s there for the taking.


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Clueless - all three of them. Only Phila has the cap room and they are not interested, but this it 10 days old and things changed. As for LA, they had the opportunity to make an offer and elected not to. No one really knows just why, but they passed and took on Lin. They have their eyes on Durant and Westbrook. Do not think Bledsoe is a real target, but you never know. Would be shocked if he takes the QO, it would be epic failure.

There will be further negotiations and both sides will give a little, there will be a compromise.

BTW is Bledsoe really a transcendent player?

[asudevil]

Sign the QO and trade him to Cleve for Thompson. Let lebron deal with his little buddy. If Cleve can land Love, Thompson may be moveable. He's one of those Long strong bigs that could be a double double machine here.

50% of something is better than 100% of nothing

Obviously I am in the Trade the Baby camp.
No time for love Dr Jones

I'm pretty sure if he takes his qo then any team he is traded to looses his bird right. Cleveland would not be able to offer him anything close to max

[BurningHeart]

This guy has a lot of work to do to repair his reputation with Suns fans. A lot.

It's going to take a whole lot for me to like this guy again.

[aIvin adams]

found this on sheridanhoops

How will the negotiations between Eric Bledsoe and the Phoenix Suns play out?

SHERIDAN: It will be tough for Bledsoe to leave $48 million on the table, but this is a guy who can be a max player one year from now, and the Lakers will be flush with cap room along with a need for a point guard to supplant Jeremy Lin as the starter for the long-term. Next year’s free agent class is nothing like this year’s free agent class, and Bledsoe can be No. 1 or No. 2 on the list if he can find a way to produce decent numbers in Phoenix despite its point guard glut. So I think he will take the qualifying offer.

BERNUCCA: GM Ryan McDonough’s offer of $48 million for four years is the same the Raptors gave Kyle Lowry and seems fair. And Bledsoe’s request of a maximum $80 million for five years is on par with the deals given John Wall and Kyrie Irving and seems a bit much. But Bledsoe is the only player on Phoenix’s roster who has a chance to be truly special. You would think cooler heads would prevail and the sides could meet in the middle, perhaps at $65 million for five years. But if McDonough isn’t just posturing and truly pinching pennies, he could lose Bledsoe to Atlanta, Milwaukee or Philadelphia, all of whom either have or can create the cap room to make bigger offers.

SPRUNG: Atlanta as a possible destination is a good one. The Hawks have the requisite cap space, tried to trade Jeff Teague for much of last season and have a good platform for Bledsoe to make plays. With Isaiah Thomas, Goran Dragic, Archie Goodwin and rookie Tyler Ennis already on the payroll, the Suns don’t really need Bledsoe. Sure, Bledsoe is the only current Phoenix player who has the potential to be transcendent, but the need isn’t there to overpay. I see this playing out until another team signs Bledsoe to an offer sheet and sets the market for the Suns. Once they see an offer, the Suns will have three days to make an extremely important decision. If there’s a team that wants Bledsoe for the max, it seems like he’s there for the taking.


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Junk

[aIvin adams]

This guy has a lot of work to do to repair his reputation with Suns fans. A lot.

It's going to take a whole lot for me to like this guy again.

I have no problem with him and can't wait to watch him in a suns uni next year. If he plays in Phoenix and plays as well as we all expect, no one will ever give a **** he took his time in free agency.