Offseason Thread 6: The Not So Mexican Stand-off Continues

[kingstyyyle]

What about Rubio to PHX as part of S&T? He wants a max deal and isn't going to get one in Minnesota now. Have to imagine the Spaniard would like the desert better than the Minnesota tundra and could drop his contract demands a bit.

Rubio sucks

[Sunsdeuce]

PLEASE NO RUBIO!!!!

Don't worry suns already said no to that. That's not happening. Would be other players.


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[garycarnivals]

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[HurricaneKid]

Fellas, I don't want to pop in here to be a dick but there is some real hypocrisy going on. If Bledsoe isn't worth the max why would a team pay him the max THEN give up massive young assets? The Suns have leverage in that no other team put a max offer sheet in front of him. But there still has to be value in any trade.

Pekovic is a BULL. And many would argue that Plumley and Len just didn't cut it at the 5. And Minny clearly sees Dieng as the heir apparent. How do you feel about Pek?

[bwgood77]

As far as I understand, this offer can't even be considered, given that Wolves are above the cap already. Say the suns just say "go ahead" and ask for nothing in return, Wolves would have to make huge salary dumps in order for it to work.

So more rabbits have to come off the hat. I also think a 3-team-trade is on the works, where Martin (the biggest contract for lowest production in the Wolves roster) goes somewhere else. Curious to see what comes back to us.

Yeah, I was going to post this.

They can't offer him the max. They are over the cap. So we won't be matching anything. I don't know if that means they would want to move on from Rubio.

If we were going to do a S&T, I would want a package of something like Dieng, Lavine, Young, and protection removed from that pick.

Young is expiring (player option he will probably not pick up) so if we don't need him after this year and want to go after someone else like Millsap we could. Dieng is the rim protector we desperately need. We know we'd get a first round draft pick this year.

I guess the downside for them would be not having much of a PF.

But they would be young, and could start Rubio, Bledsoe, Wiggins, Bennett and Pekovic and have Martin play sixth man with Budinger and Brewer also off the bench.

I doubt they'd give up that much though.

I'd still only do it if we were certain Bledsoe was taking the QO. But I still think we will agree on a deal.

[BurningHeart]

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GOOD.

[sunsbum]

I like how people are saying we aren't getting lavine like he is some kind of solitified superstar. Wiggens I get obviously but you're dumb if you think lavine is off the table. They don't have much leverage...or any being that they can't sign him outright. So this is a sign and trade or no deal. And we have all the leverage.

[Nando88]

I'd take pek all day.


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[kingstyyyle]

Fellas, I don't want to pop in here to be a dick but there is some real hypocrisy going on. If Bledsoe isn't worth the max why would a team pay him the max THEN give up massive young assets? The Suns have leverage in that no other team put a max offer sheet in front of him. But there still has to be value in any trade.

Pekovic is a BULL. And many would argue that Plumley and Len just didn't cut it at the 5. And Minny clearly sees Dieng as the heir apparent. How do you feel about Pek?

I'll start taking your posts seriously when you start spelling our players names correctly

[bwgood77]

Fellas, I don't want to pop in here to be a dick but there is some real hypocrisy going on. If Bledsoe isn't worth the max why would a team pay him the max THEN give up massive young assets? The Suns have leverage in that no other team put a max offer sheet in front of him. But there still has to be value in any trade.

Pekovic is a BULL. And many would argue that Plumley and Len just didn't cut it at the 5. And Minny clearly sees Dieng as the heir apparent. How do you feel about Pek?

For me, no on Pek. We need a rim protector/shot blocker at the 5. I would want a deal something like I just posted.

Like I said in that post, I doubt Minny would do it, but the Suns have no reason to take on huge money on guys like Pek.

[wheezy]

Funny though that the Wolves just dealt with the Cleveland Lebrons in a trade and now this comes out of nowhere as we get close to Oct.

[ShawnBronald]

Fellas, I don't want to pop in here to be a dick but there is some real hypocrisy going on. If Bledsoe isn't worth the max why would a team pay him the max THEN give up massive young assets?

I think this sums it up...



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[letsgosuns]

I think the Wolves have a lot of assets right now they would be willing to give up to get Bledsoe. The only players on their team I have absolutely no interest in are Ricky Rubio and veterans like Kevin Martin and J.J. Barea. I would take a package of young players and picks and/or Nikola Pekovic for Bledsoe.

[Sunsdeuce]

@Gambo987: Look their is nothing to this Bledsoe to the TWolves. Minny wants to dump bad contracts on Phx - Not Happening.

Buzzkill


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[phrazbit]

Fellas, I don't want to pop in here to be a dick but there is some real hypocrisy going on. If Bledsoe isn't worth the max why would a team pay him the max THEN give up massive young assets? The Suns have leverage in that no other team put a max offer sheet in front of him. But there still has to be value in any trade.

Pekovic is a BULL. And many would argue that Plumley and Len just didn't cut it at the 5. And Minny clearly sees Dieng as the heir apparent. How do you feel about Pek?

Minnesota can't sign him on their own. They need the Suns to play ball, if Bledsoe is a player with ability that the Wolves think commands a max contract or near max, then the Suns have every right to request a legit return in trade.

And I'd rather lose Bledsoe for nothing in 12 months (after getting him at a bargain 3 mil this year) than blow 12 million on a defensive doormat like Pekovic.

[spanishninja]

Fellas, I don't want to pop in here to be a dick but there is some real hypocrisy going on. If Bledsoe isn't worth the max why would a team pay him the max THEN give up massive young assets? The Suns have leverage in that no other team put a max offer sheet in front of him. But there still has to be value in any trade.

Pekovic is a BULL. And many would argue that Plumley and Len just didn't cut it at the 5. And Minny clearly sees Dieng as the heir apparent. How do you feel about Pek?

Minnesota can't sign him on their own. They need the Suns to play ball, if Bledsoe is a player with ability that the Wolves think commands a max contract or near max, then the Suns have every right to request a legit return in trade.

And I'd rather lose Bledsoe for nothing in 12 months (after getting him at a bargain 3 mil this year) than blow 12 million on a defensive doormat like Pekovic.

worse than being a defensive doormat is that he can't run anywhere as well as our centers can.

[ShawnBronald]

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[Kerrsed]

Fellas, I don't want to pop in here to be a dick but there is some real hypocrisy going on. If Bledsoe isn't worth the max why would a team pay him the max THEN give up massive young assets? The Suns have leverage in that no other team put a max offer sheet in front of him. But there still has to be value in any trade.

Because he isnt worth a max doesnt mean some team wont be stupid enough to offer him, namely teams like the Wolves or the Bucks who are not free agent destinations. Teams like that HAVE to over pay players to get them to come to their teams. Even then some most players seem like they would rather take just a bit less money to play in a city with a nicer climate, hip life-style, and great night life. As for why they have to give up MASSIVE YOUNG ASSETS, i consider Wiggins a "massive young asset", I dont consider anyone else on the Wolves in the same regard.

[letsgosuns]

The Suns struggled mightily and were manhandled inside against the really big, physical teams last season such as the Spurs, Grizzlies, and Rockets with Howard. I could care less if Pekovic is a running center. As long as the Suns medical staff checks off on him, I would take him for Bledsoe because he fills a glaring hole in the Suns lineup. The Suns already have four point guards in Dragic, Thomas, Ennis, and Jackson. However, they have no real inside scoring big man, which is exactly what Pekovic is. I would trade Bledsoe for him. Pekovic is one of the best coring centers in the league when he plays. He averages 17 ppg and 9 rbs on 54% fg and 75% ft in only 31 mpg. I would much rather have a glut of centers in Pekovic, Plumlee, and Len than a glut of point guards. The biggest teams usually win championships, not teams with five point guards. I would trade Bledsoe for him.

[ShawnBronald]

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