asudevil wrote:bwgood77 wrote:NavLDO wrote:
Him saying he won't entertain being traded is a lot different than "can't" be traded. And a lot can change in a month and a half, which is how old this article is. Do you know how many times reporters report things, and get it wrong? Like...a lot...and again, go back and re-read my original post. I understand the concept of a no trade clause, and LeBron's unwillingness to be traded. But now that Kyrie is gone, and the only return is a broken IT, a draft pick, and a really good player that happens to play the same position he does, well, he might change his mind, since those acquisitions actually 'weaken' the team, this year. When circumstances change, in some cases, intentions change.
And how many other discussions on this forum have taken place that went against the grain of likely reality, yet never received the "pointless exercise" moniker from you, huh??? Umm, like how about every trade proposal on this forum.
It's obvious you are still 'butt-hurt' from your hyperbolic statement of how rare it is for a rookie NBA player to be good on D, that you kept changing the parameters over several posts to finally stating how rare it is for 'a rookie-WING-that-ONLY-came-in-during-X-period-that-MAY-or-MAY-NOT-EVEN-STAY-in-the-NBA' conversation we had...making every attempt possible not to have to say you misspoke, and when that didn't work, then ending it whining about how I scared everybody away, which was refuted by AtheJ immediately afterwards...OOPS...and how I somehow proved your point, but you were not going to explain how, because if I couldn't see it, well, then...I love that a tactic...in fact, I'll use it now...thanks for posting those, since they proved my point; if you can't see how, well, I'm not going to bother trying to explain it to you...(funny thing is, this actually works for me in this case!)
Read my signature line...what you said was W-R-O-N-G, WRONG. LeBron CAN be traded...whether he desires to be traded is another point all together. Korver, Green, Rose...they CANNOT be traded at this point, but once the time expires, they can, LeBron can be traded if he gives consent--whether it's REPORTED that he REFUSES to CONSIDER a trade him is different. Oh, darn it...I just said I wouldn't explain it, but I did...
...oh, and since we're using distraction tactics, thanks for interrupting a debate between me and Waylay and harping on a point that had nothing to do with the original point, which was what pieces would or would not be worth a trade for LeBron...
You knw, BW, I tried to drop it. I made a post about dropping the whole thing. But you just can't. I even showed you how easy it is to say 'I was wrong'...I've said it multiple times on this forum...but you just cannot EVER seem to man-up and a) admit when you misspoke/were wrong, or b) move on from being 'butt-hurt'. Ever since that initial conversation, you've taken little potshots at me, and it's obvious, so fine, you want to play that way like a couple of girls????
No, I don't think you do understand what a no trade clause is. That's certainly not my fault.
I'll chime in on this one. Nav is arguing about being "technically right" and BW is arguing being logically right.
I would be EXTREMELY surprised if Lebron even entertained being traded this season for MANY reasons.
a.) I think he would rather waste one year of his prime just to screw over Gilbert. Any trade of Lebron will easily set up a Cavs rebuild. We are talking about multiple picks and young players that the Cavs will have at their disposal. At this point If Lebron leaves in a year the Cavs have very little to work with for a few years.
b.) Lebron leaving via FA and Lebron being traded will be looked at in two completely different ways. Asking to be traded now will look like he's abandoning cleveland, where as him leaving via FA will probably be seen as Gilbert forcing him out.
c.) Most any team who trades for Lebron will be left in a less than desirable state. The team would probably look a lot like the Cavs team that Lebron left before joining Miami....a team with a bit of talent, but surrounded by has-beens and vet ring chasers. There are some teams who have a package that wouldnt gut the roster, but most would be left in a sorry state.
d.) Any team with a REAL chance at landing Lebron in the offseason, but is over the cap, would probably spend less in assets to clear cap space than they would have to give up to trade for Lebron. Him waiting one year will set up whatever team who wants to play for for a championship run.
So, for me 100% Lebron cannot be traded because 100% Lebron wont agree to be traded.
Exactly--he won't agree to be traded, which is exactly my point. BW doesn't know what a No-Trade Clause means...I can't help that.
