The One And Only Offseason Thread 4

[bigfoot]

But the real question is, will $48 million dollars be enough to feed him and his family? (See: Latrell Spreewell)

I dunno man, according to the great Patrick Ewing, NBA players make a lot of money, but they spend a lot of money too!

That's because we make too many children millionaires. In the 1992-93 season, our highest paid player, Charles Barkley, was making $2.4 million.

That goodness the price of milk and gasoline have not keep pace with NBA salary inflation.

[RunDogGun]

Barely anyone ever reads any article posted here or watches any of the videos. They see the obviously exaggerated headlines and just go off that.

Speak yourself there Pickle.

Even reading the full quote, which was posted minutes after the headline from LaCava, really doesn't make it any better. We have made it clear in every interview that we want him to be a Sun this season and beyond. He isn't a victim in this situation. Nothing is being used against him. Any team was completely free to give him a max offer, he just never got one.

[RunDogGun]

I dunno man, according to the great Patrick Ewing, NBA players make a lot of money, but they spend a lot of money too!

That's because we make too many children millionaires. In the 1992-93 season, our highest paid player, Charles Barkley, was making $2.4 million.

That goodness the price of milk and gasoline have not keep pace with NBA salary inflation.

Sometimes Hawaii has. To be fair, Barkley's salary did increase to $3.5 million the next season, and increased at a good amount from there. Heck we paid AC $6 million. KJ was paid well, but that didn't come around until 96-97. Strange, but we were only paying Kidd $5 million en we first got him.

But the salaries have gotten out of control, but so has the price to see games and merch.

[SSOL]

This is Nash's last season.

http://www.insidesocal.com/lakers/2014/ ... ba-season/

[RunDogGun]

This is Nash's last season.

http://www.insidesocal.com/lakers/2014/ ... ba-season/

I would love to pick up both Nash and Hill as assistant coaches.

[Just_Win]

If Blesode chooses to take the qualifying offer the Suns would be stupid to put him on the floor next season. It's not a matter of getting even with Bledsoe or killing his value as a 2015 UFA ... he would be telling us he doesn't want to be part of the Suns long term plans. In that case we absolutely need to develop Goodwin and Ennis.

Thomas/Ennis
Dragic/Goodwin

I still can't imagine Bledsoe passing on $48M ... smh

Exactly. If he doesn't want to be here and takes the QO let him sit, so we can play people who want to instead.

[RunDogGun]

I'd just like to applaud the posters who are trying to maintain some patience and calm in here.

If you haven't already, please watch the video. http://www.alabamas13.com/story/26121041/eric-bledsoe-on-contact-negotiations-video#.U9QgERlsQAU.twitter

Seems like a lot of people are reacting to the snippet of his answer that was posted on twitter ("Suns are using rules against me"). Granted, his words were poorly chosen to appear as an out-of-context twitter blurb. If you listen to him actually say it there's no malice in his tone. He repeats that he "understands."

It's a negotiation. I'm sure we'd all love a team of world-class athletes willing to play for nothing but the love of purp n orng--but until those guys show up, I'm totally comfortable waiting for this process to play out. Trust in the front office. Try to see it from Bledsoe's perspective. Chill out, it's July.

I fully expect Bledsoe to be a Sun next season.

Ha, that video in no way clears up his meaning. It could easily mean that his agent has told him that PHX is using him being a RFA against him, since he clearly said his agent is handling it, and Bledsoe himself is not involved.

The point is his comment makes him out to be a victim, which he is not. He could easily say that he wants to be in PHX and build on what he did for half a season.

[aIvin adams]

since a franchise with no arena just sold for $2B i'm gonna lean towards 'salaries are not out of control.'

it's a shame that i'm basically priced out of going to NBA games though. but what can i do? i love basketball way more than baseball so until I move to a town with a D-League team i'm owed.

[SSOL]

Salaries are not "out of control." Salaries are predicated on the salary cap. The salary cap is predicated on a 50% split of all basketball related income. You want player salaries to decrease? Talk to the sponsors.

[RunDogGun]

since a franchise with no arena just sold for $2B i'm gonna lean towards 'salaries are not out of control.'

it's a shame that i'm basically priced out of going to NBA games though. but what can i do? i love basketball way more than baseball so until I move to a town with a D-League team i'm owed.

That sale hasn't happened yet, and probably everyone thinks that price was/is insane.

And it is a shame that you are priced out of going to games.

[oldjeezy]

I'd just like to applaud the posters who are trying to maintain some patience and calm in here.

If you haven't already, please watch the video. http://www.alabamas13.com/story/26121041/eric-bledsoe-on-contact-negotiations-video#.U9QgERlsQAU.twitter

Seems like a lot of people are reacting to the snippet of his answer that was posted on twitter ("Suns are using rules against me"). Granted, his words were poorly chosen to appear as an out-of-context twitter blurb. If you listen to him actually say it there's no malice in his tone. He repeats that he "understands."

It's a negotiation. I'm sure we'd all love a team of world-class athletes willing to play for nothing but the love of purp n orng--but until those guys show up, I'm totally comfortable waiting for this process to play out. Trust in the front office. Try to see it from Bledsoe's perspective. Chill out, it's July.

I fully expect Bledsoe to be a Sun next season.

Ha, that video in no way clears up his meaning. It could easily mean that his agent has told him that PHX is using him being a RFA against him, since he clearly said his agent is handling it, and Bledsoe himself is not involved.

The point is his comment makes him out to be a victim, which he is not. He could easily say that he wants to be in PHX and build on what he did for half a season.

I'm not saying it clears it up. I'm saying lets not all freak out and run the guy out of town because he made some ambiguous comments in an informal setting.

It would be great if he came out and said "Phoenix is my heart. I'll sign for whatever." He isn't going to, though. I don't think the next logical step is to trade him for whatever John Henson-level junk we can pick off the heap. My guess is that everyone involved expects something to be worked out eventually. We just have to wait.

[RunDogGun]

Who is saying he should sign for whatever? I really dislike when someone uses an exaggeration like that to counter something they claim as an exaggeration.

Being offered the same amount as a player that did better than Eric, and for a full season, in no way is expecting him to sign for peanuts.

Look, it's not my fault that Eric is not involved in his own contract negotiations. Nor is it my fault that his agent cared more about another client's contract. And isn't my fault the market for Eric is what it is.

But as a fan, I don't want to hear whinny millionaires when they are being offered $48 million to play a game, and he still wants more. Eric isn't worth the max, and no team has offered him such.

I think he should take that offer (if it's true it was offered) in the speed that Lowry did.

He should fire his agent, and negotiate his own deal.

[SNDSTK]

I would love to pick up both Nash and Hill as assistant coaches.

That would be awesome.

[bwgood77]

Interesting to see in the wiretaps that Mark Jackson is going to hire Rich Paul as an agent.

[RunDogGun]

Interesting to see in the wiretaps that Mark Jackson is going to hire Rich Paul as an agent.

"Stupid is as stupid does".

[Saberestar]

I do not like his comments and his lack of enthusiasm or emotion speaking about his return to the team, but, at the end of the day, I think Robert Sarver will make a big offer to Bledsoe.
I remember one Sarver's interview where he was asked about Bledsoe's future contract. He said that he will not make the same mistake he made with Joe Jhonson.After that, he said something like he thinks that Bledsoe deserves between $7M and $14M per year...but I can find the interview right now to post the link.
With that on mind, I think we will offer Bledsoe $56M/ 4 years or $70M/5 years if we think that he will play for the QO next year, and probably it would be good for both sides because we can not sign no one with Bledsoe's talent even at that high salary.
We will see.

EDIT: I found the interview.
http://arizonasports.com/41/1724650/Pho ... ic-Bledsoe

"The only real unknown for fans is how much money are we going to pay Eric Bledsoe," Sarver said. "It's not whether he's going to be here or not."

The way Sarver sees it, Bledsoe will have a contract that pays him between $7 million and $14 million per year, and on a four-year deal, the investment isn't one he'd be leery of.

[Puff]

Interesting to see in the wiretaps that Mark Jackson is going to hire Rich Paul as an agent.

"Stupid is as stupid does".

We may all by wrong on Rich Paul. He may be doing do diligence for his player.

The reason he may be right.

What happens if Ricky Rubio gets a 5 year $85 Million extension from the Timberwolves?

Read this on Hoops Hype:

Your agent is negotiating a $85 million contract and you act all normal. Ricky Rubio: I try to stay away from that. I'm not going to lie: I talk to my agent about it, but that's his thing. On the court, I do my work and enjoy when I play. Signing a contract or not is not going to change who I am. - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.xGvAUrAp.dpuf

Who is the better player and worth more, Rickey or EB?

Just a thought

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Who is the better player and worth more, Rickey or EB?

If they're both healthy, EB and not even close. Heck, I hate Ricky's game so much I think I'd prefer half a season of EB (if it includes the playoffs) to a full season of Rubio.

That is all to say that the Wolves are idiots. They don't deserve Wiggins. No fair.

We'll get ours

[RunDogGun]

Interesting to see in the wiretaps that Mark Jackson is going to hire Rich Paul as an agent.

"Stupid is as stupid does".

We may all by wrong on Rich Paul. He may be doing do diligence for his player.

The reason he may be right.

What happens if Ricky Rubio gets a 5 year $85 Million extension from the Timberwolves?

Read this on Hoops Hype:

Your agent is negotiating a $85 million contract and you act all normal. Ricky Rubio: I try to stay away from that. I'm not going to lie: I talk to my agent about it, but that's his thing. On the court, I do my work and enjoy when I play. Signing a contract or not is not going to change who I am. - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.xGvAUrAp.dpuf

Who is the better player and worth more, Rickey or EB?

Just a thought

Rubio is not getting a 5/$85 contract, so let's not use that as evidence that Paul is doing a good job.

[AtheJ415]

Nothing happens. If that happens, then it still doesn't matter because Eric Bledsoe cannot be offered the max in this market by any team aside from Philly, who has a PG. That's the problem. Bledsoe wants money nobody has shown the desire to offer, and more importantly, that nobody has the ability to offer aside from Phoenix, so why would Phoenix bid against itself?

Interesting to see in the wiretaps that Mark Jackson is going to hire Rich Paul as an agent.

"Stupid is as stupid does".

We may all by wrong on Rich Paul. He may be doing do diligence for his player.

The reason he may be right.

What happens if Ricky Rubio gets a 5 year $85 Million extension from the Timberwolves?

Read this on Hoops Hype:

Your agent is negotiating a $85 million contract and you act all normal. Ricky Rubio: I try to stay away from that. I'm not going to lie: I talk to my agent about it, but that's his thing. On the court, I do my work and enjoy when I play. Signing a contract or not is not going to change who I am. - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.xGvAUrAp.dpuf

Who is the better player and worth more, Rickey or EB?

Just a thought