Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs

BobbieL · Post #881 » by **BobbieL** » Tue Jul 7, 2015 1:08 pm

JMac1 wrote:FWIW

[/Jordan Schultz is The Huffington Post's sports columnist and writes The Schultz Report, a daily blog in which he dishes on all things sports. He is also the co-host of the NBC Sports Radio program, "Kup and Schultz," which airs every Sunday morning from 9-12 ET. A proud native of Seattle, he is a former all-state and college shooting guard. He began his journalism career with the Los Angeles Times, chronicling the best pick-up basketball games in L.A. He also played a prominent role in reporting the 2008 NBA Draft for latimes.com. His hoops blog, 10 Feet High, was anthologized in "The Best Sports Blogs of 2010." He most recently worked as a sportswriter, broadcaster, producer and editor for FanHouse.com, while gaining national notoriety for his on-site video series on the "D-League", which he both played in and covered, including earning a trip to the vaunted "second stage" with the Idaho Stampede. He has appeared on The Today Show, MSNBCs The Daily Rundown, CBS shows Inside Edition, Entertainment Tonight, as well as WNBCs The Debrief, NPR, The Bill Press Show, Fox Sports Radio, Yahoo Sports Radio, NBC Sports Radio and ESPN Radio. quote]

Everyone dissed him because LMA went to Spurs

Maybe he visits our board and then post what we talk about?!

Dude is never right in terms of reporting something that would benefit the team I am rooting for
The Suns
the U of A: he had Stanley staying; he had two transfers, blah blah blah
He had Randle for Bledsoe last year

he sucks

BobbieL · Post #882 » by **BobbieL** » Tue Jul 7, 2015 1:11 pm

gaspar wrote:#neverforget
[tweet]https://twitter.com/schultz_report/status/490893102719459328[/tweet][tweet]https://twitter.com/schultz_report/status/490910598994354176[/tweet][tweet]https://twitter.com/schultz_report/status/565277757509488642[/tweet][tweet]https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/616358100476502016[/tweet][tweet]https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/617326314282971136[/tweet]

His latest tweet basically means Markieff is gonna be a Sun for life.

you got it
thanks for posting
he is wrong

now Ray Ray about Joe Johnson. that is interesting but still need a four

carey · Post #883 » by **carey** » Tue Jul 7, 2015 1:24 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Gallinari for Tucker, Morris, 2 lottery protected 1sts.

People will say that's too much, but name me a trade where the team with the best player didn't win it.

Yeah, that's a crazy trade. With Gallo in the last year of his deal and unable to stay on the floor due to injuries, and Morris rarely ever missing games... I'm not even sure Gallo is better than Markieff right now.

Gallo last year: 12 points on 40% / 35% from 3 with 3.7 rebounds in 24 minutes in 59 games.
Markieff last year: 15 points on 47% / 32% from 3 with 6.2 rebounds in 32 minutes in 82 games.

Post #884 » by **Qwigglez** » Tue Jul 7, 2015 1:28 pm

Gallinari isn't gonna fetch more than a late 1st as he should. His numbers aren't impressive, his salary is too high for his production. He does have a couple things going for him though. His contract expires, he still has upside. I wouldn't trade Kieff for him though. Tucker I would.

m1chal · Post #885 » by **m1chal** » Tue Jul 7, 2015 1:29 pm

The truth is that Markieff is the best player out of all PFs we could potentially trade for. Skillset, contract, potential are all there. Obviously he's not LMA/Love/Ibaka but if the rift created between Kieff and FO with trading Mook is not too wide we should stay pat and wait for a better opportunity. Our current team is a borderline playoffs contender. Better that last year, that's for sure. I'm not thrilled with Chandler but sending Mook away makes for a good offseason in my eyes. And play the young guys more, for Christ's sake...

NavLDO · Post #886 » by **NavLDO** » Tue Jul 7, 2015 1:37 pm

Would the Cavs consider, and is it plausible, to trade Kevin Love for Kieff and Bledsoe. Honestly, the Cavs could use Bledsoe more than they could use Love. And Kieff coming off as the 6th man role would be huge for the Cavs, no? And wouldn't Love be better for us than Kieff and EB? We could trade some picks, like theirs next season back to them, or whatever, to make it palatable--maybe they throw in Dellavadova? I think that could work.

Knight/Dellavadova/Godwin
Tucker/Goodwin/Booker
Warren/Tucker
Love/Leuer
Chandler/Len

And that's just with what we have now. I'd expect McD to grab another combo guard somewhere with our remaining space, so we could use Tucker as a bench role for Warren.

Maybe Love wouldn't want to come here, but if we cold somehow convince him, I think it works out better for both teams--I really do, because I can't imagine the Cavs wanting to pay $42M for two PFs (TT and Love)--with Markieff, that number is lowered to $28M. If the Cavs want to win this year, this is a better team make up than their current one, IMO.

NavLDO · Post #887 » by **NavLDO** » Tue Jul 7, 2015 1:44 pm

Qwigglez wrote:Isaiah Thomas and 10 picks. Just kidding. I don't really like anything on the Celtics roster, at least not for Len.

Sullinger and Olynyk. I like both of them for us. Problem is, Sully and Oly is too much for Kieff, and borderline enough for Len.

Saberestar · Post #888 » by **Saberestar** » Tue Jul 7, 2015 1:45 pm

m1chal wrote:The truth is that Markieff is the best player out of all PFs we could potentially trade for. Skillset, contract, potential are all there. Obviously he's not LMA/Love/Ibaka but if the rift created between Kieff and FO with trading Mook is not too wide we should stay pat and wait for a better opportunity. Our current team is a borderline playoffs contender. Better that last year, that's for sure. I'm not thrilled with Chandler but sending Mook away makes for a good offseason in my eyes. And play the young guys more, for Christ's sake...

A lot of talk about trading Markieff or not and I see the answer very clear. We don't know if he is on board with the team after the moves we made (Marcus out for space) or we tried to make( LMA in, Markieff very possible out).

If he talks with Hornacek and McDonough and he says that all is OK and he understands then I want him here and playing with us.

If he says that he doesn't trust our FO anymore ( deja vu here

) and he is not happy with our moves I want him out and we need to trade him before his value goes down (and yes, that is possible if he is not motivated to play).

That is all, only two options here.

5salmon · Post #889 » by **5salmon** » Tue Jul 7, 2015 2:04 pm

Bradley?

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Post #890 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Jul 7, 2015 2:09 pm

RunDogGun wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:Don't we have enough cap space that we can absorb, what like 8-10mil without giving up any players? Possibly a pick if we are getting someone valuable, otherwise a salary dump from another team.

Yes, that's why I suggested to Leuer/McNeal for Anderson. I think we have around $9 if we don't have other cap holds I don't know about. And that's before we sign Knight. Once we sign Knight, we will be well over the cap.

Why in God's name would the Pelicans trade Anderson for Leuer/McNeal? Or are you in the "if the Pels definitely want to dump salary or Anderson" mode, which is an extremely unlikely mode for them to be in.

RunDogGun · Post #891 » by **RunDogGun** » Tue Jul 7, 2015 2:22 pm

Djedefre wrote:
alphagorilla wrote:Kieff for Andrew Nicholson and Aaron Gordon

I like Gordon, but there's no range in his game yet.
Ryan Anderson is the best realistic fit.

Gordon has been knocking down threes in summer league, and his stroke has looked good.

King4Day · Post #892 » by **King4Day** » Tue Jul 7, 2015 2:23 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:Additionally, I would then do a deal with New York wherein we send them bledsoe and p.j. tucker and we take back bargnani( shooting big with range) not a great player but should be a decent compliment next to chandler.

Also we would get back porzingas and a future first for taking bargnani.

So essentially, say these trades get done, We roll out a lineup of:

point guard- knight/free agent? /goodwin.

2 guard- demar de rozan/booker/ goodwin.

small forward- derozan/ t.j. warren/ leur?

power forward- bargnani/ alex len/ porzingas/leur.

center- tyson chandler/alex len/ porzingas.

all in all an above average shooting team with good athleticism and defense being anchored by chandler and len.

Did I miss anybody?......thoughts?

Did you mean Calderon? Bargs is an UFA.

I'd be more inclined to do that instead since Porzingis would fill that role.

RunDogGun · Post #893 » by **RunDogGun** » Tue Jul 7, 2015 2:26 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:Don't we have enough cap space that we can absorb, what like 8-10mil without giving up any players? Possibly a pick if we are getting someone valuable, otherwise a salary dump from another team.

Yes, that's why I suggested to Leuer/McNeal for Anderson. I think we have around $9 if we don't have other cap holds I don't know about. And that's before we sign Knight. Once we sign Knight, we will be well over the cap.

Why in God's name would the Pelicans trade Anderson for Leuer/McNeal? Or are you in the "if the Pels definitely want to dump salary or Anderson" mode, which is an extremely unlikely mode for them to be in.

Well I have said in every trade for Anderson, except the one you quoted "if NO wants to dump salary". I've posted the trade six times, and you managed to quote the only one in which I didn't add that. :banghead:

Post #894 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Jul 7, 2015 2:38 pm

RunDogGun wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:Yes, that's why I suggested to Leuer/McNeal for Anderson. I think we have around $9 if we don't have other cap holds I don't know about. And that's before we sign Knight. Once we sign Knight, we will be well over the cap.

Why in God's name would the Pelicans trade Anderson for Leuer/McNeal? Or are you in the "if the Pels definitely want to dump salary or Anderson" mode, which is an extremely unlikely mode for them to be in.

Well I have said in every trade for Anderson, except the one you quoted "if NO wants to dump salary". I've posted the trade six times, and you managed to quote the only one in which I didn't add that.

Well it's the first one I've seen today on a tired morning, so excuse my laziness.

But if you don't add that every time, someone is sure to come across it, whether it be one of our fans or another team's, and think "what the hell is this guy smokin?"

RunDogGun · Post #895 » by **RunDogGun** » Tue Jul 7, 2015 2:40 pm

Saberestar wrote:
Source: Andre Miller, who turns 40 next year, is planning on playing next season and is currently visiting with teams.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JaredZwerling/status/618082161829257216

He is my favorite option like a backup PG for us. Amazing IQ and excellent passer, veteran presence and hard worker. With him and Chandler we would be set regarding leadership. He would be great like a first pass PG playing with Len, Goodwin, Booker or Warren coming of the bench, he would make them better.

Edit. If he only wants to play for a contender I would like Ish Smith here.

I would rather grab Ronnie Price, if Miller wants to go to a contender.

Post #896 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Jul 7, 2015 2:48 pm

Djedefre wrote:
alphagorilla wrote:Kieff for Andrew Nicholson and Aaron Gordon

I like Gordon, but there's no range in his game yet.
Ryan Anderson is the best realistic fit.

No range in his game yet is a very nice way of putting it. The guy can't make free throws.

RunDogGun · Post #897 » by **RunDogGun** » Tue Jul 7, 2015 2:51 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Why in God's name would the Pelicans trade Anderson for Leuer/McNeal? Or are you in the "if the Pels definitely want to dump salary or Anderson" mode, which is an extremely unlikely mode for them to be in.

Well I have said in every trade for Anderson, except the one you quoted "if NO wants to dump salary". I've posted the trade six times, and you managed to quote the only one in which I didn't add that.

Well it's the first one I've seen today on a tired morning, so excuse my laziness. But if you don't add that every time, someone is sure to come across it, whether it be one of our fans or another team's, and think "what the hell is this guy smokin?"

Didn't they just sign Asik to a big contract, and also just resign Cunningham? I figuered they want to shed some salary, since they also have Gordon, Holiday, and Evans making big money. Plus they could keep Leuer as a cheap big off the deep bench, who does have range.

Saberestar · Post #898 » by **Saberestar** » Tue Jul 7, 2015 2:54 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Djedefre wrote:
alphagorilla wrote:Kieff for Andrew Nicholson and Aaron Gordon

I like Gordon, but there's no range in his game yet.
Ryan Anderson is the best realistic fit.

No range in his game yet is a very nice way of putting it. The guy can't make free throws.

Well, I think his shot will get better.
Gordon is not available, he has huge upside. Orlando would trade him only for an All Star.

Post #899 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Jul 7, 2015 2:58 pm

MrMiyagi wrote:
SunsFanSSOL wrote:
Mr-Al wrote:
lol that must mean Kieff and Horny play golf together every weekend

Literally everything he says is complete BS. Worst of all he gave me a little hope that we're getting LMA

**** that guy

If you're a Sonics fan it gets worse, he's Howard Schultz's son.

Funny thing is he is not joking.

Post #900 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Jul 7, 2015 2:59 pm

RunDogGun wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:Well I have said in every trade for Anderson, except the one you quoted "if NO wants to dump salary". I've posted the trade six times, and you managed to quote the only one in which I didn't add that.

Well it's the first one I've seen today on a tired morning, so excuse my laziness. But if you don't add that every time, someone is sure to come across it, whether it be one of our fans or another team's, and think "what the hell is this guy smokin?"

Didn't they just sign Asik to a big contract, and also just resign Cunningham? I figuered they want to shed some salary, since they also have Gordon, Holiday, and Evans making big money. Plus they could keep Leuer as a cheap big off the deep bench, who does have range.

Well, Gentry seems like a guy that would really want to spread the floor, so I'd be extremely surprised of all people they might dump, that he would be the guy unless he made it clear he would leave next offseason...but even then I think they could definitely trade him for reasonable assets.