Official Trade Thread: New Year, New Thread, New Laughs

jcsunsfan · Post #901 » by **jcsunsfan** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:49 pm

Ok. Here is an uncomfortable fact. There is no way the Suns can develop Ennis, Goodwin, Warren, Bullock and Len. Its must too much youth to work with on one team.

Fo-Real · Post #902 » by **Fo-Real** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:49 pm

Looking at Bullock, I think he is a Sf in the NBA. A Marcus sf replacement????

carey · Post #903 » by **carey** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:50 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:Ok. Here is an uncomfortable fact. There is no way the Suns can develop Ennis, Goodwin, Warren, Bullock and Len. Its must too much youth to work with on one team.

And likely 2 more first rounders coming this Summer. Something will give eventually.

sunsfever68 · Post #904 » by **sunsfever68** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:51 pm

1UPZ wrote:
sunsfever68 wrote:Like getting Reggie Bullock if he can develop into a 3 and D guy, basically a more refined more controlled version of Gerald Green.

Looks like Gerald Green doesn't have a spot on the team anymore, and honestly I don't mind that.

Trading Randolph away for Bullock is another great move by McDonough.

Tolliver and Randolph out

Wright and Bullock in

Great bench moves by our GM.

We are definitely stockpiling assets to make a trade.

Guys who could move:

Warren, Goodwin, Ennis, Green, Thomas, Plumlee

I dont think the youth (Ennis, Goodwin, Warren) are on the move.
Look at McD's moves, he is moving out veterans for players who has upside still and YOUNG.
He also drafted Warren. Ennis and Goodwin, along with Len.

He will give them time to shine on the court before he decides who to trade off IMO.

I agree with you I think we keep the young guys in Ennis Goodwin and Warren I like them all actually I think they all will be rotation guys but my only thing is all those guys and Bledsoe and even Dragic (to a lesser extent) are all scorers not really shooters. None of those guys are pure shooters that's why I like the Bullock trade he's a 3 and D type, shoot in a phone booth curl off screens stop and pop and play D, something we don't really have.

I just hope we move Thomas and Green for a nice piece possibly a Ryan Anderson a stretch 4 bench big who can light it up and get boards as well

thamadkant · Post #905 » by **thamadkant** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:54 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:Ok. Here is an uncomfortable fact. There is no way the Suns can develop Ennis, Goodwin, Warren, Bullock and Len. Its must too much youth to work with on one team.

We do know (speculated?) that Suns tried to trade Ennis back in the draft.

Maybe Ennis is back on the block to Raptors?

And Hornacek/McD has mentioned a few times during the draft and just after it, that Goodwin is a PG down the line (like a 6'5 Bledsoe).

letsgosuns · Post #906 » by **letsgosuns** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:58 pm

The Suns now have Warren, Goodwin, Ennis, Bullock, and own the rights to Bogdan Bogdanovich in Europe. Plus they have the team's own first round pick and the Lakers 2015 pick if it is not in the top five. I wonder what McDonough is going to do next.

Sunsdeuce · Post #907 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:58 pm

@ZachLowe_NBA: Suns out here just mooching interesting players/prospects from teams doing weird stuff.

thamadkant · Post #908 » by **thamadkant** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:00 pm

McD is pretty much looking for the next "Harden" still.. lol

He is adamant one of the young guys either he drafted or mis-used by other teams will shine and become a star!

Get a team full of under 25s and let them battle it out and show their full potential! lol

letsgosuns · Post #909 » by **letsgosuns** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:06 pm

For everyone that was interested in trading for Demarcus Cousins, it appears the Kings are looking to build around him instead of trading him. http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken ... as-in-deal So it looks like he is definitely not on the block.

bigfoot · Post #910 » by **bigfoot** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:07 pm

Team only getting younger with Randolph ... the old man ... moving onto Boston.

20 - Goodwin, Ennis
21 - Len, Warren
23 - Bullock
25 - Morri, Bledsoe, ZDragic, Thomas
26 - Plumlee
27 - Wright
28 - Dragic, Green
29 - Tucker

Average age 24.53

Synyster9 · Post #911 » by **Synyster9** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:07 pm

I absolutely love the Bullock move. McD is a friggin GENIUS!!! I see the stockpile of young players as a positive and not a hurdle to overcome. We can go absolutely anywhere from here. We could just sit back and watch the players develop with the playing time their getting (either NBA or D-League) or we can just unload some of them for a great/star player. We could go anywhere and I'm ecstatic with where the Suns could go from here. I think we can even move IT and Green for future 1st's and call it a day giving our other players more playing time and go to more a team focused game. As well as getting our other scorers (bledsoe, dragic, etc.) more touches and shots instead of having IT and green just taking shots just they make sure they get their shots in each game.

I love this lineup

Bledsoe/Ennis/Goodwin
Dragic/Bullock/Goodwin
Tucker/Marcus/Warren
Markeiff/Wright
Len/Wright/Plumlee

Lakers 1st
Suns 1st
Future 1st
Possible 2nd future 1st from trades?

thamadkant · Post #912 » by **thamadkant** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:10 pm

I seriously think Bullock is primarily a SF... part time SG.

Tucker's padawan.

bigfoot · Post #913 » by **bigfoot** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:11 pm

Synyster9 wrote:I absolutely love the Bullock move. McD is a friggin GENIUS!!! I see the stockpile of young players as a positive and not a hurdle to overcome. We can go absolutely anywhere from here. We could just sit back and watch the players develop with the playing time their getting (either NBA or D-League) or we can just unload some of them for a great/star player. We could go anywhere and I'm ecstatic with where the Suns could go from here. I think we can even move IT and Green for future 1st's and call it a day giving our other players more playing time and go to more a team focused game. As well as getting our other scorers (bledsoe, dragic, etc.) more touches and shots instead of having IT and green just taking shots just they make sure they get their shots in each game.

I love this lineup

Bledsoe/Ennis/Goodwin
Dragic/Bullock/Goodwin
Tucker/Marcus/Warren
Markeiff/Wright
Len/Wright/Plumlee

Lakers 1st
Suns 1st
Future 1st
Possible 2nd future 1st from trades?

Nobody is stupid enough to give us a first for Gerald Green. He is an expiring contract and mediocre player. We will be lucky to get a second round pick for him.

thamadkant · Post #914 » by **thamadkant** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:18 pm

Babby Interview (Audio) about Suns stance about transaction/direction
Click me

Long term future >>> Short term gain

Post #915 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:27 pm

letsgosuns wrote:For everyone that was interested in trading for Demarcus Cousins, it appears the Kings are looking to build around him instead of trading him. http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken ... as-in-deal So it looks like he is definitely not on the block.

Yes, of course, just like with Melo.

Frank Lee · Post #916 » by **Frank Lee** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:29 pm

We'd take a second for GGreen, I almost expect it.... it makes sense to let him go to the east for little to nothing, out of sheer consideration. We could even buy out/waive him just get on somewhere.

Would hang onto IT, Plum, and the rest. Good back ups just in case. But who knows.

LOL at Goodwin's response. Buck up Arch.

McDo liking these NC boys....

PJ born Raliegh NC,
TJ born Raliegh / NCSt,
RBull born NC / Tar Heel,
Plum high school in NC / Dukey,
BWright Tar Heel

PS.... Randolf from Raliegh too

Sunlight · Post #917 » by **Sunlight** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:30 pm

Bullock is gonna replace Green. Same style players, but dont need pay 5-6mil/yr to keep Green coz already have cheap Bullock. McD making space to keep Dragic next summer. Maybe next step is to trade IT coz already have cheap Ennis.

JJ13 · Post #918 » by **JJ13** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:41 pm

Maybe we're prepping for PJ's next DUI...I kid

Synyster9 · Post #919 » by **Synyster9** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:44 pm

bigfoot wrote:
Synyster9 wrote:I absolutely love the Bullock move. McD is a friggin GENIUS!!! I see the stockpile of young players as a positive and not a hurdle to overcome. We can go absolutely anywhere from here. We could just sit back and watch the players develop with the playing time their getting (either NBA or D-League) or we can just unload some of them for a great/star player. We could go anywhere and I'm ecstatic with where the Suns could go from here. I think we can even move IT and Green for future 1st's and call it a day giving our other players more playing time and go to more a team focused game. As well as getting our other scorers (bledsoe, dragic, etc.) more touches and shots instead of having IT and green just taking shots just they make sure they get their shots in each game.

I love this lineup

Bledsoe/Ennis/Goodwin
Dragic/Bullock/Goodwin
Tucker/Marcus/Warren
Markeiff/Wright
Len/Wright/Plumlee

Lakers 1st
Suns 1st
Future 1st
Possible 2nd future 1st from trades?

Nobody is stupid enough to give us a first for Gerald Green. He is an expiring contract and mediocre player. We will be lucky to get a second round pick for him.

I didn't say we would get a 1st rounder for green by himself. I left that open to speculation, to a good team that's top 5 in the league, we could get 2 firsts for both players (maybe not realistic, but again, speculation).

Marz11 · Post #920 » by **Marz11** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:46 pm

NotTraxxe wrote:The twins, Plumlee, IT, Green, and Dragic are on the block.

The Suns are set keeping Wright/Len, Tucker, and Bledsoe.

They are not tied to Warren/Ennis/etc for the right deal.

We've put calls into Chicago, Houston, and Orlando I heard of.

Don't know anything else. And I won't know as much this year as in years' previous. The Suns are controlling what gets out at this juncture.

I'm taking a guess..

Chicago: Nikola Mirotic (would be amazing).

Houston: Montiejunas (Not as amazing, but still good)

Orlando: Tobias Harris (Would be amazing in the Suns system, can also play the 4)

All three teams would ask a lot for these guys. Maybe Monti would take less but they have their heart set on Goran, so..

Green and Plumlee's value has massively decreased this season..