2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 4 - Trade season continues - No player trade restrictions

[spanishninja]

If you go to the Raptors board btw, there's a video of Chris Paul last night dabbing all the Raptors up after the game....but when he gets to OG he stops says something to him and then OG says something back.

Could be nothing, could be something. CP3 knows that OG could be a game changer on this team

eh, Kuzma all but bought a house in Scottsdale around the time when the Wizards played us and nothing happened with that

[Ghost of Kleine]

The Suns are 11-3 with Cam Johnson this season.

The Suns are 16-22 without Cam Johnson this season.

(I understand that Paul has probably played in most of Johnson's games, but still)

Some may say he is injury prone or not strong enough. But Jones is going to tell me that OG Anunoby is 3 first round picks better than Johnson and that OG is what this team needs?

If we make this trade but don't trade any of our expiring contracts and keep Shamet and Dario, I am not sure my heart will be able to handle the rest of the season (which will be no playoffs or a first round exit).

Cam and 3 firsts for OG? If Matt Ishbia wants to find a way to Suns fans' hearts, this aint it. We were all just talking about 4 first round picks, Cam and fillers FOR EFFING KD. And now it gets us OG?

I understand there may be more to this or that the Suns just don't want to pay an injury prone player, but then why in the hell trade him for OG? Ugh I can literally hear Monty and Jones saying they were comfortable trading Cam because they have enough movement shooting on this team with *barf* Shamet. It's like they don't even watch the same games we do.

Okay, back to hiding as my blood pressure can barely handle this season as is. Not to mention the Chargers just about killed all passion I have for sports in general.

Would it really be Cam and three firsts. That’s way too much. I think Cam and two firsts is a lot.

I agree though. Shamet needs to be moved as does Dario

I'd honestly feel much better giving up Cam for Anunoby in a deal IF Trent was at least coming back in the deal too. And honestly as good as Johnson has been since returning from injury, More value is absolutely needed coming back IF multiple 1sts are being sent out for Anunoby. Maybe something like:

Crowder/Saric/Shamet/Johnson 2 (Top 10 lotto protected) 1sts for Anunoby/Trent.
https://fanspo.com/nba/s/suns/trades/qLYi8orjDr_R1S/raptors-reload

[KLEON]

No way I'm trading a sniper for OG. If the Suns do this I'm done with them. You better prioitize trading Jae.

[BobbieL]

and isn't the point of this trade talk to ship out Crowder?

Use Crowder for assets that can be flipped to a third team for an upgrade combined with players/assets from the Suns.

Gambo shoots down every good trade rumor but thinks this is OG for 2-3 picks PLUS CamJo is reasonable? GTFO

I would do that trade all day. CamJo is gonna need a new deal and is just as incredibly injury prone as any player in the league. He's not 1/3 the defender OG.

You guys want your Kawhi 2.0? Well there it is. Someone who can actually be Kawhi.

OG is as close defensively as any player in the league. CamJo and 2-3 (protected) picks is fine. I'd make them take Dario so that we can recoup a pick from trading Jae to another team.

Yes. Do this all day. Major upgrade.

Someone already had this brilliant idea. JJ and Masai are lurking here, taking my ideas.

I'll allow it though. If it gets us OG.

Good point. If the Suns were to get OG for say Crowder and Saric - the Suns would need Crowder to get some depth back. They wouldn't have the picks to get Gordon and Martin with that trade - probably do not need Martin

But maybe something like the Bucks trade but Connaughton instead of Nwora and Ibaka.

If the suns could move Shamet in a potential Raptors trade - that would be ideal. Who knows, Masai might want the expiring for the future - -over Saric. He is smart that way

[Desertfox]

JJ probably salivating at the prospect of trading ALL the draft picks away. He should include GoK in that trade, poor guy needs someone who will actually read scouting reports.

[Slim Charless]

The Suns are 11-3 with Cam Johnson this season.

The Suns are 16-22 without Cam Johnson this season.

(I understand that Paul has probably played in most of Johnson's games, but still)

Some may say he is injury prone or not strong enough. But Jones is going to tell me that OG Anunoby is 3 first round picks better than Johnson and that OG is what this team needs?

If we make this trade but don't trade any of our expiring contracts and keep Shamet and Dario, I am not sure my heart will be able to handle the rest of the season (which will be no playoffs or a first round exit).

Cam and 3 firsts for OG? If Matt Ishbia wants to find a way to Suns fans' hearts, this aint it. We were all just talking about 4 first round picks, Cam and fillers FOR EFFING KD. And now it gets us OG?

I understand there may be more to this or that the Suns just don't want to pay an injury prone player, but then why in the hell trade him for OG? Ugh I can literally hear Monty and Jones saying they were comfortable trading Cam because they have enough movement shooting on this team with *barf* Shamet. It's like they don't even watch the same games we do.

Okay, back to hiding as my blood pressure can barely handle this season as is. Not to mention the Chargers just about killed all passion I have for sports in general.

Would it really be Cam and three firsts. That’s way too much. I think Cam and two firsts is a lot.

I agree though. Shamet needs to be moved as does Dario

I'd honestly feel much better giving up Cam for Anunoby in a deal IF Trent was at least coming back in the deal too. And honestly as good as Johnson has been since returning from injury, More value is absolutely needed coming back IF multiple 1sts are being sent out for Anunoby. Maybe something like:

Crowder/Saric/Shamet/Johnson 2 (Top 10 lotto protected) 1sts for Anunoby/Trent.
https://fanspo.com/nba/s/suns/trades/qLYi8orjDr_R1S/raptors-reload

That's a good deal GoK, maybe the best I've seen you do lol. Seems even on both sides and I'd absolutely do that...and I think the Dinos should too.

Either way I think a change is needed and OG would be great here. Mikal can't keep being the 1st line of defense. He needs to be on the secondary guy for the other team.

[Slim Charless]

No way I'm trading a sniper for OG. If the Suns do this I'm done with them. You better prioitize trading Jae.

Soooo no February 1st and 22 is still here updates? I don't know if the board will survive.

I'm just kidding btw and you're just talking and don't mean a word of that. After we run off a 10 game win streak, all the doubters will be back on the bandwagon.

[BobbieL]

Would it really be Cam and three firsts. That’s way too much. I think Cam and two firsts is a lot.

I agree though. Shamet needs to be moved as does Dario

I'd honestly feel much better giving up Cam for Anunoby in a deal IF Trent was at least coming back in the deal too. And honestly as good as Johnson has been since returning from injury, More value is absolutely needed coming back IF multiple 1sts are being sent out for Anunoby. Maybe something like:

Crowder/Saric/Shamet/Johnson 2 (Top 10 lotto protected) 1sts for Anunoby/Trent.
https://fanspo.com/nba/s/suns/trades/qLYi8orjDr_R1S/raptors-reload

That's a good deal GoK, maybe the best I've seen you do lol. Seems even on both sides and I'd absolutely do that...and I think the Dinos should too.

Either way I think a change is needed and OG would be great here. Mikal can't keep being the 1st line of defense. He needs to be on the secondary guy for the other team.

I agree. I like the trade as well - one of his best would agree - good work GOK

But would be nice to move Shamet thats for sure. The Raptors probably buy out Crowder or flip him to another team for a couple second round picks.

[Fo-Real]

If we trade for OG, its gonna be an offshoot part of an Ayton trade.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Read on Twitter

[spanishninja]

Read on Twitter

for KD or SGA you might just pry Craig from our clutches

[mademan]

If we trade for OG, its gonna be an offshoot part of an Ayton trade.

Problem with an Ayton trade is that he has a veto. Dont think he's gonna want to uproot in the middle of the season and move to Canada (players often talk about how hard mid season trades are for them). He also would need to be consulted, and im not sure that stays confidential as he would need to do multiple things to get ready (people in his circle would know and it would quickly leak from there)

[Saberestar]

I'd honestly feel much better giving up Cam for Anunoby in a deal IF Trent was at least coming back in the deal too. And honestly as good as Johnson has been since returning from injury, More value is absolutely needed coming back IF multiple 1sts are being sent out for Anunoby. Maybe something like:

Crowder/Saric/Shamet/Johnson 2 (Top 10 lotto protected) 1sts for Anunoby/Trent.
https://fanspo.com/nba/s/suns/trades/qLYi8orjDr_R1S/raptors-reload

That's a good deal GoK, maybe the best I've seen you do lol. Seems even on both sides and I'd absolutely do that...and I think the Dinos should too.

Either way I think a change is needed and OG would be great here. Mikal can't keep being the 1st line of defense. He needs to be on the secondary guy for the other team.

I agree. I like the trade as well - one of his best would agree - good work GOK

But would be nice to move Shamet thats for sure. The Raptors probably buy out Crowder or flip him to another team for a couple second round picks.

Lol, obviously that's a great trade for the Suns, but no way the Raptors do that.

Our picks don't have too much value because we have a very good team and CP3/Book/Mikal/Ayton are signed long-term. If you put a Top 10 protection on them that makes them even more useless to rival teams.

[Saberestar]

Saben Lee's second 10-day contract has expired and he is no longer under contract with the team, per Suns.

[SkyBill40]

It's hard to fathom Van Vleet get $30M annually. He's a solid player but that's pretty much superstar money and franchise foundation level compensation. I just don't see him in that vein.

I think he’s a solid option post Chris Paul era. He’s also a solid defender for his size. I see a lot of similarities from our current backcourt of CP3/Booker to FVV/Booker. We have to think, what other PGs will be available after Chris Paul retires? We can’t go through seasons finding that next PG while Booker is in his prime.

I can see why the Suns are interested in FVV.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It wasn't a matter of the team not being interested in him but more of one relating to money. Ishbia may be willing to spend to change the team, but just how much remains to be seen.

Sent from my [Samsung Z4 Fold] using RealGM mobile app

[NapoleonII]

Saben Lee's second 10-day contract has expired and he is no longer under contract with the team, per Suns.

We seriously losing him for nothing?

He reminded me so much of Monte Morris - good floor general, great penetrator, decent enough shooter.

[BobbieL]

Saben Lee's second 10-day contract has expired and he is no longer under contract with the team, per Suns.

Did a nice job - but it was either sign him for the season or let him go. And with the trade deadline, Suns need the roster spot flexibility for the next 10 days.

Not bad work for 20 days - I think he made over $200k

[Fo-Real]

Saben Lee's second 10-day contract has expired and he is no longer under contract with the team, per Suns.

We seriously losing him for nothing?

He reminded me so much of Monte Morris - good floor general, great penetrator, decent enough shooter.

Can't do another 10 day, if we sign him it has to be a real rest of the year contract. I would assume that we are keeping the roster spot available to see what comes back in trades. Can always sign him to a deal in a week or so when we are more aware of what the roster is gonna look like after the deadline.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Yeah I want and expect Lee back after the deadline.

Sent from my SM-G986U using RealGM mobile app

[Saberestar]

The Phoenix Suns may ultimately send Jae Crowder to the Milwaukee Bucks in a deal, but they reportedly don't want Grayson Allen back in return.

ESPN's Brian Windhorst discussed the situation on his podcast (41:30) and noted the salaries match up for a Crowder-Allen swap, but the Suns "don't particularly like" the idea of landing the Duke product and "prefer something else."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10063546-nba-trade-rumors-suns-dont-want-grayson-allen-from-bucks-in-jae-crowder-deal

Good.