The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day

[jlgcool]

If the suns trade their lottery pick for both of the celtics 1st round picks, then pick Quincy Miller and Tony Wrotten in the draft, then let Steve Nash walk, go into tank mode for Zeller, Noel, or Bazz, and trade Gortrat somewhere now or near the deadline would you guys be happy with that?

Wroten is an absolute stud with no shot. Reminds me of Tyreke Evans. Evans is a little longer but Wroten has an edge in athleticism. I have no idea what position he would end up playing in the association, but he will be productive one way or another. Plus he is only 19, he can better his shoot.

As for Miller, I think I would rather take a chance on PJ3 but as many have said Miller could be the better pro. Also, I would look at a guy like Doron Lamb. Undersized 2 with a wet shot but possibly too small to guard other teams 2's . That kind of back court could pair well together. Not sure if either would ever be an all-star but both could put up 15+ PPG.

Yes, yes, and yes. Wroten seems worth a flyer, and I guarantee Doron Lamb has a place in this league. (I think he is the big sleeper of the draft, sort of along the likes of an Eric Bledsoe getting lost amidst all that talent in Kentucky.) Regardless of size or star potential, these player's have a fire in them and an athleticism the Suns sorely need entering rebuild mode. At the very least, we tank in style.

[ruiner]

What happened to all of our insider posters (IHG, TRAXX, etc.)? I miss their info around this time.

I'm sure certain jerk-offs here ran them off.




Hopefully with all who's rumored we go Lamb. No on Ross and Marshall. Though I can live with Ross. i was starting to warm up to Rivers. Or of course, the unlikely if Henson falls. Take him.

Hopefully, we grab another pick and take a chance on PJIII. Or take another player.

[7Insomniac]

I'd be shocked if we got anyone other than Lamb.

[[The-Warriors]]

I'd be shocked if we got anyone other than Lamb.

I actually like Lamb because he's a pot head and they usually succeed in the NBA (see: Thompson, Klay). and for laughs check out this interview of him. http://www.csnnw.com/pages/video?PID=FEeMpB-oNBfHWRqNpoz2FV65Bbj9eCVZBJRamtI

[Frank Lee]

If we select Rpyce White... I've got even money says we are trading him for 21/22 IF Marshall is still there, or may be one or two others. Of course this will be very taxing on our boy in Vcoover.

White is the safe pick at 13. keep him or not.

[[The-Warriors]]

If the suns trade their lottery pick for both of the celtics 1st round picks, then pick Quincy Miller and Tony Wrotten in the draft, then let Steve Nash walk, go into tank mode for Zeller, Noel, or Bazz, and trade Gortrat somewhere now or near the deadline would you guys be happy with that?

As for Miller, I think I would rather take a chance on PJ3 but as many have said Miller could be the better pro. Also, I would look at a guy like Doron Lamb. Undersized 2 with a wet shot but possibly too small to guard other teams 2's . That kind of back court could pair well together. Not sure if either would ever be an all-star but both could put up 15+ PPG.

I'll take Jones as well because apparently he has a knee issue and is faaling down the boards. So guess who has the best mediacal staff in the NBA?

[OrangeMan]

I can only hope the suns end up with another 1st rd pick and we come away with Moultrie and either wing player Lamb, Rivers, and Ross. We haul in two players and thats going to be a nice start to the rebuilding.

[jredsaz]

If the suns trade their lottery pick for both of the celtics 1st round picks, then pick Quincy Miller and Tony Wrotten in the draft, then let Steve Nash walk, go into tank mode for Zeller, Noel, or Bazz, and trade Gortrat somewhere now or near the deadline would you guys be happy with that?

As for Miller, I think I would rather take a chance on PJ3 but as many have said Miller could be the better pro. Also, I would look at a guy like Doron Lamb. Undersized 2 with a wet shot but possibly too small to guard other teams 2's . That kind of back court could pair well together. Not sure if either would ever be an all-star but both could put up 15+ PPG.

I'll take Jones as well because apparently he has a knee issue and is faaling down the boards. So guess who has the best mediacal staff in the NBA?

There will be some comparable talent at 21/22 as there will be at 13 if Lamb/Rivers/Waiters are all off the board. F Ross, he didn't want to come here that fine. I honestly think all four will be gone at this point.

7. Waiters
8. Lamb
10. Rivers
11. Ross

Trade down to 21/22 and pick up the guys who fall: PJ3/Terrance Jones/Marshall/Moutrie. Then draft the next best player Nicholson/Wroten/Barton/Miller/Doron Lamb. If we can snag PJ3 and Wroten we would increase out teams athleticism twice over. That what its all about now. Finding athletes who can play multiple positions.

[bwgood77]

Why do you say F Ross, but you want Rivers, who also refused to come here?

[NotTraxxe]

Waiters/Lilliard/Rivers/Lamb/Marshall/Ross is my take on our board (leaving those out who are gone)

If we buy a first or second it will be from calls placed during the draft. Everyone will try and get more out of their picks and sell at the last second.

Don't look for any trades, we extended offers to Lopez and Brooks, making the RFA's officially. We won't move Gortat until we know on Nash. Same with Dudley, if Nash stays then we look for a FA. If he is gone then we start the full rebuild process and look for no amnesties.

But we won't make major splashes until we know on Nash. Just our team scenarios change depending on his decision dramatically. Except us to take BPA on our board (with limits)...

We would favor Lamb over Marshall because of the in case Nash stays scenario... before Ross a dropping player may be inserted would be my guess.

But it depends on who drops that we might trade back... so it will be a draft time decision. IE: Rivers falls and the Celtics call, etc.

[jredsaz]

Why do you say F Ross, but you want Rivers, who also refused to come here?

Good point. But Ross did it more recently so I am more butt hurt about that. Rivers is a marketable face. Will draw attention to the club. I think he will be more fun to watch as we suck for the next three years. best explanation I can provide.

[jredsaz]

Waiters/Lilliard/Rivers/Lamb/Marshall/Ross is my take on our board (leaving those out who are gone)

If we buy a first or second it will be from calls placed during the draft. Everyone will try and get more out of their picks and sell at the last second.

Don't look for any trades, we extended offers to Lopez and Brooks, making the RFA's officially. We won't move Gortat until we know on Nash. Same with Dudley, if Nash stays then we look for a FA. If he is gone then we start the full rebuild process and look for no amnesties.

But we won't make major splashes until we know on Nash. Just our team scenarios change depending on his decision dramatically. Except us to take BPA on our board (with limits)...

We would favor Lamb over Marshall because of the in case Nash stays scenario... before Ross a dropping player may be inserted would be my guess.

But it depends on who drops that we might trade back... so it will be a draft time decision. IE: Rivers falls and the Celtics call, etc.

Agreed. But I think the Celtics will look to move up and get White. Rivers won't be there and 21/22 does not get them into the top 9 to draft him.

[ruiner]

Why do you say F Ross, but you want Rivers, who also refused to come here?

Good point. But Ross did it more recently so I am more butt hurt about that. Rivers is a marketable face. Will draw attention to the club. I think he will be more fun to watch as we suck for the next three years. best explanation I can provide.

Yep. He's worth the risk more than Ross.

[NotTraxxe]

Waiters/Lilliard/Rivers/Lamb/Marshall/Ross is my take on our board (leaving those out who are gone)

If we buy a first or second it will be from calls placed during the draft. Everyone will try and get more out of their picks and sell at the last second.

Don't look for any trades, we extended offers to Lopez and Brooks, making the RFA's officially. We won't move Gortat until we know on Nash. Same with Dudley, if Nash stays then we look for a FA. If he is gone then we start the full rebuild process and look for no amnesties.

But we won't make major splashes until we know on Nash. Just our team scenarios change depending on his decision dramatically. Except us to take BPA on our board (with limits)...

We would favor Lamb over Marshall because of the in case Nash stays scenario... before Ross a dropping player may be inserted would be my guess.

But it depends on who drops that we might trade back... so it will be a draft time decision. IE: Rivers falls and the Celtics call, etc.

Agreed. But I think the Celtics will look to move up and get White. Rivers won't be there and 21/22 does not get them into the top 9 to draft him.

I think Nash may stay. Just sayin'. I think that changes how we draft dramatically. Nash would of given us a heads up if he intends on leaving, he's that kinda guy.

I think giving Brooks a QO is a no brainer and is not a sign Nash is leaving and he will be our starter. (he WANTS a starting job)

Keep in mind this ONE THING: Sarver.

We are more profitible if we keep Nash. Even if that means getting a FA he wants.

Compare that to a lottery team rebuild...

I look for us to offer him enough money 11 mil * 3 years to get him to sign regardless of who we add. We may overpay for Nash for profit reasons because paying him more makes us more net return $$$ than paying a pricey FA. If we owe him 33mil over three years or could pay him 27mil but then have to sign a FA to a say... 10 mil contract for those three years... we are keeping Nash at a total cost of 57mil for 3 years. Or we could just up him and stay cheap and pay way more than other teams and pay 33 mil Our return on Investment would be higher.

[bwgood77]

I think when it comes down to it, Nash will stay. If it is between Toronto...I just don't see what they have that could sway him....can't see him deciding to play with a bunch of young guys he doesn't know over Hill, Allen, Dudley, etc...trainers he knows, coaching staff.

I think he'll listen to BC, but what do they really have to offer him to make him leave his teammates? Now if they were contending or something it might make sense....

But there just isn't a team out there that is a contender AND will offer him the money and play his style to trump the teammates, familiarity, etc.

[suns91fan]

"With the thirteenth pick of the 2012 NBA Draft, the Phoenix Suns select... Jeremy Lamb, from the University of Connecticut." - David Stern

[JJ13]

Any way we can trade #13 for one or both of Celts pics plus Brandon Bass if Rivers is still on the board and the Celts are desperate?

[sunskerr]

Any way we can trade #13 for one or both of Celts pics plus Brandon Bass if Rivers is still on the board and the Celts are desperate?

#13 for 21 and Brandon Bass? No way.

[jredsaz]

Any way we can trade #13 for one or both of Celts pics plus Brandon Bass if Rivers is still on the board and the Celts are desperate?

Ainge would't let that happen and I don't want it. Unless we could get both pics plus Bass.

[TASTIC]

If we select Rpyce White... I've got even money says we are trading him for 21/22 IF Marshall is still there, or may be one or two others. Of course this will be very taxing on our boy in Vcoover.

White is the safe pick at 13. keep him or not.

Frank you're going Meatloaf on me here. Took the words right outta my mouth haha

BOS has a hard on for White...makes sense if we could get Marshall AND a Nicholson or other PF/SG at the later point in the draft