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Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6

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What is Aaron Gordon worth?

$25-29m a year ($29m is max)
0
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$20-25m a year
6
10%
$18-20m a year
11
19%
$15-18m a year
19
33%
$12-15m a year
18
31%
Less than $12m a year
4
7%
 
Total votes: 58

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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#941 » by thamadkant » Thu Feb 8, 2018 10:55 pm

Payton phoned his defense in the last 2 seasons. This hopefully fires him up. Back to rookie level effort.
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Post#942 » by BobbieL » Thu Feb 8, 2018 10:58 pm

1UPZ wrote:Dann that's cold on Canaan...

Absolutely cold.


Dude probably ended his career or at least will be out a long time... Playing for your team...

Then you waive him as he sits down recovering.


Should have waived Ulis the useless.

I hope... Canaan comes back and plays again. Dude played hard and well enough to be in the NBA.



Tough league the NBA - too bad he could not go on IR or something.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#943 » by Kerrsed » Thu Feb 8, 2018 11:01 pm

Pretty interesting......

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Post#944 » by Saberestar » Thu Feb 8, 2018 11:01 pm

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Read on Twitter

They should’ve waived Ulis instead...could’ve put an end to the buddy ball between him and Booker too.

I think (and hope) that we are gonna see a much better Ulis as a clear backup now.

He needs to play well enough to be on the roster next season, but I think he is good enough to be at least a third string PG.
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Post#945 » by RunDogGun » Thu Feb 8, 2018 11:08 pm

Bummer for Canaan, but I thought this would happen.
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Post#946 » by Revived » Thu Feb 8, 2018 11:09 pm

Son of Ra wrote:
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1UPZ wrote:In fairness Bogdan has played enough to be worth Chriss and then some IMO. Dude can play.

The Kings ***** the Suns in that deal. It’s one of many, many trades that McDonough has lost.

Disagree. Bogdanovic flat out refused to come over and play for us so we would've lost him for nothing.

He said he wanted time, he didn’t want to come when the Suns were asking him to.

Him and Skal > Chriss
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Post#947 » by Christine-In-AZ » Thu Feb 8, 2018 11:11 pm

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1UPZ wrote:In fairness Bogdan has played enough to be worth Chriss and then some IMO. Dude can play.

The Kings ***** the Suns in that deal. It’s one of many, many trades that McDonough has lost.


Careful now. I don't think the polls are even closed yet

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Post#948 » by Saberestar » Thu Feb 8, 2018 11:12 pm

Revived wrote:
Son of Ra wrote:
Revived wrote:The Kings ***** the Suns in that deal. It’s one of many, many trades that McDonough has lost.

Disagree. Bogdanovic flat out refused to come over and play for us so we would've lost him for nothing.

He said he wanted time, he didn’t want to come when the Suns were asking him to.

Him and Skal > Chriss

He wanted a lot more money, that is why he needed to wait three years to scape the rookie scale contract.

He signed a $27M/3 years contract.

He is OK, but he does not impress me.
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Post#949 » by thamadkant » Thu Feb 8, 2018 11:12 pm

Bogdan didn't want to come over and sign a rookie contract... By waiting he can get almost double the amount. And the Divac factor


Edit: much more than the rookie contract... Like 4 to 5 times more. Yeah no brainer. I would have done the same.
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Post#950 » by thamadkant » Thu Feb 8, 2018 11:14 pm

Revived wrote:
Son of Ra wrote:
Revived wrote:The Kings ***** the Suns in that deal. It’s one of many, many trades that McDonough has lost.

Disagree. Bogdanovic flat out refused to come over and play for us so we would've lost him for nothing.

He said he wanted time, he didn’t want to come when the Suns were asking him to.

Him and Skal > Chriss



I don't blame him.


If he came over most likely a 3 year contract with team option at year 3... Total value around 5 million.


He signed a 3 year 27 million contract instead. This one is purely financial and I would have done the same.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#951 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Feb 8, 2018 11:14 pm

Son of Ra wrote:
Revived wrote:
1UPZ wrote:In fairness Bogdan has played enough to be worth Chriss and then some IMO. Dude can play.

The Kings ***** the Suns in that deal. It’s one of many, many trades that McDonough has lost.

Disagree. Bogdanovic flat out refused to come over and play for us so we would've lost him for nothing.

1UPZ wrote:Bogdan didn't want to come over and sign a rookie contract... By waiting he can get almost double the amount. And the Divac factor

Yeah I don't think it had anything to do with not wanting to play for the Suns
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Post#952 » by Saberestar » Thu Feb 8, 2018 11:22 pm

1UPZ wrote:Bogdan didn't want to come over and sign a rookie contract... By waiting he can get almost double the amount. And the Divac factor


Edit: much more than the rookie contract... Like 4 to 5 times more. Yeah no brainer. I would have done the same.

He got that contract because Divac wanted. They did not need to give him that much, it is ridiculous.

He would have signed with them if they offered him $15M/3 years too, because they had his rights and he could not earn that money in Europe.

But Divac loves to give money. PapaG has earned good money too because of him.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#953 » by thamadkant » Thu Feb 8, 2018 11:23 pm

Kerrsed wrote:Pretty interesting......



Yeah saw this on Reddit last year. Posted it here.


It's true.


I think NBA should have a clause that players must not have their hair protruding on the area of their face or forwards of their head where the ball nay touch it during shooting.

They must comb it backwards or tie down with hair tie at the back.

So get corn rows or tied down dreads during games and free form afterwards.


If hair styles and facial hair can be OHS issues and employees must keep it conservative then surely NBA GMs and FO can see that wild hair styles affects performance. These players are paid millions to be at optimum conditions.

My take is..
While on the court and competing... Hair style should be not interrupting with the ball.


Beards are different that it doesn't make contact with the ball during a shot or at least it doesn't affect a shot.

If players agree not to ride motorscycles or perform high risk actions as part of their contract surely this (wild big hair) can also be included.

Tie it back down away from the forehad and face area... Done care If it's long backwards away from imparing tie vision and the ball.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#954 » by bwgood77 » Thu Feb 8, 2018 11:25 pm

Kerrsed wrote:WELL, HERE IS OUR REMADE 2014 DRAFT PHOTO!


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The following are some T.J. Warren pre-draft interview quotes from Wednesday, one day before the 2014 NBA Draft. Warren attended North Carolina State, and is a talented 2014 NBA draft prospect:

Question: Of this draft class, who would you like to be drafted alongside?

T.J. Warren: Elfrid Payton. Me and Elfrid met like two months ago, we were preparing for the draft. Just getting familiar with him and with his game, he’s a great player.
Read more at http://www.insidehoops.com/tj-warren-predraft-interview-062614.shtml#Jh2f8ghDGuFcq8ar.99
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#955 » by thamadkant » Thu Feb 8, 2018 11:25 pm

Saberestar wrote:
1UPZ wrote:Bogdan didn't want to come over and sign a rookie contract... By waiting he can get almost double the amount. And the Divac factor


Edit: much more than the rookie contract... Like 4 to 5 times more. Yeah no brainer. I would have done the same.

He got that contract because Divac wanted. They did not need to give him that much, it is ridiculous.

He would have signed with them if they offered him $15M/3 years too, because they had his rights and he could not earn that money in Europe.

But Divac loves to give money. PapaG has earned good money too because of him.

O

Yeah 3 for 15 is still a heck of a more than what he would have gotten as a late pick... Something like 1 million a year or just over... And team options to boot.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#956 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Feb 8, 2018 11:27 pm

1UPZ wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:Pretty interesting......



Yeah saw this on Reddit last year. Posted it here.


It's true.


I think NBA should have a clause that players must not have their hair protruding on the area of their face or forwards of their head where the ball nay touch it during shooting.

They must comb it backwards or tie down with hair tie at the back.

So get corn rows or tied down dreads during games and free form afterwards.


If hair styles and facial hair can be OHS issues and employees must keep it conservative then surely NBA GMs and FO can see that wild hair styles affects performance. These players are paid millions to be at optimum conditions.

My take is..
While on the court and competing... Hair style should be not interrupting with the ball.


Beards are different that it doesn't make contact with the ball during a shot or at least it doesn't affect a shot.

If players agree not to ride motorscycles or perform high risk actions as part of their contract surely this (wild big hair) can also be included.

Tie it back down away from the forehad and face area... Done care If it's long backwards away from imparing tie vision and the ball.

NBPA wouldn't allow that but I'd say if we were to resign him, we should give him a $5k bonus every season he keeps his hair down. Similar to bonus for games played and body fat % lol
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#957 » by ATTL » Thu Feb 8, 2018 11:28 pm

Read on Twitter
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We needed the roster spot and bodies to keep playing.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#958 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Feb 8, 2018 11:28 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:WELL, HERE IS OUR REMADE 2014 DRAFT PHOTO!


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The following are some T.J. Warren pre-draft interview quotes from Wednesday, one day before the 2014 NBA Draft. Warren attended North Carolina State, and is a talented 2014 NBA draft prospect:

Question: Of this draft class, who would you like to be drafted alongside?

T.J. Warren: Elfrid Payton. Me and Elfrid met like two months ago, we were preparing for the draft. Just getting familiar with him and with his game, he’s a great player.
Read more at http://www.insidehoops.com/tj-warren-predraft-interview-062614.shtml#Jh2f8ghDGuFcq8ar.99

Oh no, it's the best friend signing :lol: We doomed
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#959 » by thamadkant » Thu Feb 8, 2018 11:29 pm

I like this line up.


Payton
Booker
Jackson
Warren
Chandler

Make them matchup to Warren. I would gladly trade the other team going inside the post rather than perimeter... Where Suns are one of the worst perimeter defenders in the league.

Just going to have to ensure Warren boxes out for his team mates.
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Post#960 » by hollywood6964 » Thu Feb 8, 2018 11:32 pm

Honestly, for a 2nd, this is a **** deal. Clearly orl is trying to out tank us, n this may hurt our pick, but it is a deal.....As long as we sign him to a reasonable extension.

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