Game 11: Celtics (6-4) @ Suns (2-8), 7:00pm

[denial]

Yeah, I have no concern about a language barrier. I'm just pretty sure Prunty was telling them how to defend on the last possession.

C'mon, the language barrier isn't a problem. Did you listen to his press conference? I mean that's ridiculous. We will struggle if Ayton allows layups like that and Booker tries to play hero ball. When we were moving the ball the first 3 qtrs and everyone was involved we did well on offense.

Someone mentioned that once Booker went hero mode he was the only one who scored other than Warren. Well, of course, what do you expect? Canaan missed some 3s but he had hit some earlier and I would have rather had Bridges in there, but I can understand wanting a good ball handler in there at the end.

I was surprised at how well we played the Celtics tonight though overall....especially after getting the Memphis win and playing Toronto tough.

That's what I said. Perhaps a miscommunication here.

Is English your first language?

[RaisingArizona]

If your players don't know the game plan, that is an epic coaching fail!

[denial]

There was a lack of comprehension by multiple players. The question is why.

dont know. But it was not because of English not being Igor's mother tongue.

Im sorry. There's no way you can say this with certainty.

The only thing I can say with certainty is who my mom is.
But I'm fairly confident on the Igor/English thing. We can agree to disagree. But you're wrong.

[bwgood77]

Nice chime in Miyag..... but stats dont tell the whole story. This kid has a head problem and doesnt really know how to play basketball.....yet.

Frank, do me a favor and watch your favorite "tough guy, n'er do bad" current NBA big for 4 whole games, without watching any Suns game. Then watch a Suns game. I think you'd be surprised at how good Ayton actually is. If you want to really see how great he actually is, go rummage up some tape from your favorite "tough guy, n'er do bad" current NBA big's rookie seasons.

You miss the point dude... but swallowed the hook... I'll play.

He doesnt have a killer instinct needed to be great. Keep in mind, I am not arguing his talents, he has loads on O.... its his lack of anger in approaching a game in which he could/should physically dominate 70+% of his foes. He's just not about that. I mean... is there a ferocious Dunk in his high can yet? May be its a Jamaican thing.... you never really saw Duncan get pissed except when a foul wasn't called.

Seriously Miyagi...you are a fellow AZ fan...how can you not want him to play with more of an edge? How can you deny his weaknesses of help D and protecting the rim? I see a number of AZ fans just defending him but watching him at AZ you saw it.

That's not to say he isn't great at what he is good at and is not one of the top tier rookies, but he does have areas to improve in for sure and some real toughness would be nice. If he just knocked Kyrie on his ass hard once that may have made the difference in this game.

[TheLogician]

I hope our players care more than we do. So far it's been No F*** November. They came out playing hard and let it slip away without much resistance, save Booker and Warren.

[RaisingArizona]

I'm going to carry us to 50 pages. Get on my back, Suns fans

[Calvin Klein]

Nice chime in Miyag..... but stats dont tell the whole story. This kid has a head problem and doesnt really know how to play basketball.....yet.

Frank, do me a favor and watch your favorite "tough guy, n'er do bad" current NBA big for 4 whole games, without watching any Suns game. Then watch a Suns game. I think you'd be surprised at how good Ayton actually is. If you want to really see how great he actually is, go rummage up some tape from your favorite "tough guy, n'er do bad" current NBA big's rookie seasons.

You miss the point dude... but swallowed the hook... I'll play.

He doesnt have a killer instinct needed to be great. Keep in mind, I am not arguing his talents, he has loads on O.... its his lack of anger in approaching a game in which he could/should physically dominate 70+% of his foes. He's just not about that. I mean... is there a ferocious Dunk in his highlite can yet? May be its a Jamaican thing.... you never really saw Duncan get pissed except when a foul wasn't called.

You mean Ewing? He is Jamaican.

[denial]

I'm going to carry us to 50 pages. Get on my back, Suns fans

I got you!

[itlnsunsfan]

dont know. But it was not because of English not being Igor's mother tongue.

Im sorry. There's no way you can say this with certainty.

The only thing I can say with certainty is who my mom is.
But I'm fairly confident on the Igor/English thing. We can agree to disagree. But you're wrong.

Agree to disagree. And I say you're wrong.

[bwoolf2]

I can't imagine they couldn't understand him. I also can't imagine Igor making it up. But Booker may not have been paying attention or just thought he heard "don't" in front of foul. Igor probably did say "Don't do this or this, but..."

Sounds like the players have tuned him out to some degree already... just saying...

Well that's a huge problem with the players then if they tune out a new coach 10 games in the season after they rave about him. Our roster has about 3 or 4 good players. They haven't tuned him out though because we played the Raps tough, beat Memphis and played the Celtics tough. We played two top east teams very tough and beat a pretty good Memphis team.

They are certainly getting better.

It's funny, this is probably our best game of the year against a great team and people seem to be more pissed off at the coach then when we got blown out earlier in the year.

The only reason this game was close is because Boston shot 20% in the 1st half and most of those were open shots, it wasnt because we played great D. We are not winning many games anytime soon.

[bwgood77]

If your players don't know the game plan, that is an epic coaching fail!

This was the best our team was played. Not sure if you missed earlier games, but we just nearly beat a finals contender. Our team choked down the stretch and Booker wanted to do too much and we don't have a real PG and we have a rookie C who can't defend and we still almost beat that contender.

Coach seems to be making this team loads more competitive to me, despite not having a PG, PF or an experience C.

[denial]

Im sorry. There's no way you can say this with certainty.

The only thing I can say with certainty is who my mom is.
But I'm fairly confident on the Igor/English thing. We can agree to disagree. But you're wrong.

Agree to disagree. And I say you're wrong.

Tu estas incorrecto, mi amigo.

[SunsRback4Good]

I'm going to carry us to 50 pages. Get on my back, Suns fans

I will never get off Rose.

[bwoolf2]

If your players don't know the game plan, that is an epic coaching fail!

This was the best our team was played. Not sure if you missed earlier games, but we just nearly beat a finals contender. Our team choked down the stretch and Booker wanted to do too much and we don't have a real PG and we have a rookie C who can't defend and we still almost beat that contender.

Coach seems to be making this team loads more competitive to me, despite not having a PG, PF or an experience C.

Ill give Igor time but you arent being realistic, we have been blown out of most games, and by halftime I might add, and are the lowest scoring team in the NBA by over a point a game thats not progress.

[RaisingArizona]

I'm going to carry us to 50 pages. Get on my back, Suns fans

I got you!

[bwgood77]

Sounds like the players have tuned him out to some degree already... just saying...

Well that's a huge problem with the players then if they tune out a new coach 10 games in the season after they rave about him. Our roster has about 3 or 4 good players. They haven't tuned him out though because we played the Raps tough, beat Memphis and played the Celtics tough. We played two top east teams very tough and beat a pretty good Memphis team.

They are certainly getting better.

It's funny, this is probably our best game of the year against a great team and people seem to be more pissed off at the coach then when we got blown out earlier in the year.

The only reason this game was close is because Boston shot 20% in the 1st half and most of those were open shots, it wasnt because we played great D. We are not winning many games anytime soon.

I never expected to win many games, but am glad we have a good teacher for the young guys. People want to think this is a playoff team and an OT loss to Boston is a massive problem with coaching. It's ridiculous. I know it happens a lot with the younger crowd, but you go through enough coaches, it's easy to realize the good ones.

If only two years of being awful didn't net us Bender, Chriss and Jackson. We have 2-3 good players, crappy vets (outside of Ariza who is decent) 3 rookies and a washed out PF and journeyman G league PG. He isn't really equipped very well to win.

[denial]

Im sorry. There's no way you can say this with certainty.

The only thing I can say with certainty is who my mom is.
But I'm fairly confident on the Igor/English thing. We can agree to disagree. But you're wrong.

Agree to disagree. And I say you're wrong.

This dude was born in Sunnyvale, California, USA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Prunty

[itlnsunsfan]

The only thing I can say with certainty is who my mom is.
But I'm fairly confident on the Igor/English thing. We can agree to disagree. But you're wrong.

Agree to disagree. And I say you're wrong.

Tu estas incorrecto, mi amigo.

We can keep going if you want. Multiple players didnt understand Igor's instructions. How do you explain that? They all were just not paying attention? The team's already tuned him out? Or maybe his broken English combined with the noise of the stadium contributed to a miscommunication. Can you completely rule that out?

[RaisingArizona]

If your players don't know the game plan, that is an epic coaching fail!

This was the best our team was played. Not sure if you missed earlier games, but we just nearly beat a finals contender. Our team choked down the stretch and Booker wanted to do too much and we don't have a real PG and we have a rookie C who can't defend and we still almost beat that contender.

Coach seems to be making this team loads more competitive to me, despite not having a PG, PF or an experience C.

Haven't missed more than a half all year. Turned it off at half during one 30 PT blowout. I don't understand how on the most important play off of a timeout, players don't know if they should foul or not. That's what I'm referring to. Not how good we looked the first 3 quarters or how awful we were in the 4th. I don't understand how a coach in the NBA could not communicate a simple direction to the team.

[denial]

Agree to disagree. And I say you're wrong.

Tu estas incorrecto, mi amigo.

We can keep going if you want. Multiple players didnt understand Igor's instructions. How do you explain that? They all were just not paying attention? The team's already tuned him out? Or maybe his broken English combined with the noise of the stadium contributed to a miscommunication. Can you completely rule that out?

Sorry I said I would agree to disagree. My apologies for keeping going.