Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 3

Fo-Real · Post #981 » by **Fo-Real** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:58 pm

Kerrsed wrote:

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Oh man are those fans gonna be upset if he becomes a dead contract! And he wants his damn extension let's us not forget!

Synyster9 · Post #982 » by **Synyster9** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:05 pm

If only Brandon Knight was coming back soon. It would be perfect timing for him to get another shot to be the player McD thinks he is/was. Not saying he is, but I'd personally rather have Ulis start with Booker to be a pass-first style PG and Knight to be a 1st option with the 2nd unit or be a 2nd or 3rd option with Booker and Warren out there.

I'm also really glad Warren is getting a chance to be the scorer that he was touted to be out of college. We could potentially have 2 of the best young wings in the game if Warren improve his Def a bit and Jackson to Improve his shot. As dire as it seems now, I'm very excited for the future.

GDFTony · Post #983 » by **GDFTony** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:16 pm

Kerrsed wrote:

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It's just a knee bruise, I think he was in shoot around today.

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #984 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:17 pm

Synyster9 wrote:If only Brandon Knight was coming back soon. It would be perfect timing for him to get another shot to be the player McD thinks he is/was. Not saying he is, but I'd personally rather have Ulis start with Booker to be a pass-first style PG and Knight to be a 1st option with the 2nd unit or be a 2nd or 3rd option with Booker and Warren out there.

I'm also really glad Warren is getting a chance to be the scorer that he was touted to be out of college. We could potentially have 2 of the best young wings in the game if Warren improve his Def a bit and Jackson to Improve his shot. As dire as it seems now, I'm very excited for the future.

I like TJ defensively. I think he's pretty underrated on the defensive end.

I don't really care if he never develops a 3. Instead of 3&D player, he's more of a... O&D player? Does that have to be a thing now?

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #985 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:20 pm

GDFTony wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:

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It's just a knee bruise, I think he was in shoot around today.

I watched that man fall down while jogging defensively, doing normal NBA moves, without contact, going down for the season with a meniscus tear. I do not trust those knees.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #986 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:29 pm

There's not a starting point guard under 25 in the top 130 Win Shares.

I think it's the best position to get a max vet if we are going to get one.

YouTube · Post #987 » by **Kerrsed** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:42 pm

cosmofizzo wrote:
GDFTony wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:

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It's just a knee bruise, I think he was in shoot around today.

I watched that man fall down while jogging defensively, doing normal NBA moves, without contact, going down for the season with a meniscus tear. I do not trust those knees.

Exactly.

According to the Bucks board:

There was a point in the second half of Saturday nights game where he was looking down at his knee when on the court during a break in the action, looked like he had some mild pain.

But yeah, he was in shoot around today and a reporter said he looked ok, so we will see if the Bucks FO plays it cautious or not.

NTB · Post #988 » by **NTB** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:09 pm

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alphagorilla · Post #989 » by **alphagorilla** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:29 pm

Monroe for George Hill?

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #990 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:41 pm

alphagorilla wrote:Monroe for George Hill?

Think Bradley will be more expensive?

I worry about that injury history and, more importantly, I prize the flexibility. But it's not a bad idea.

Post #991 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:47 pm

alphagorilla wrote:Monroe for George Hill?

I've always thought George Hill would be a great guy to have but he makes $19 million a year and has two more years on his contract after this I believe and on top of that he has been playing like crap this year. Like a complete turnaround from last year. I don't know if it's just being on the Kings or what.

LukasBMW · Post #992 » by **LukasBMW** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:15 pm

If we end up trading Bledsoe for a late lottery pick and an expiring...job well done.

Especially if he plays half the season again and then demands a max deal through Rich Paul. lol.

Waylay13 · Post #993 » by **Waylay13** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:20 pm

jsierra1985 wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:Any deal that has us giving up assets in any kind of salary dump just does not make sense. The Suns should be doing the opposite. They should be willing to take on salary to GET assets--as long as that salary does not extend beyond the summer of 2019. There is a plan in place. They need to stick with it.

Giving up Jackson is silly. He is a potential star player. Yes. He is. We are only a few weeks into his rookie year. HE is what rebuilding teams are trying to get. Now if we could package a couple of young players to get a better star player, maybe. But that would have to be a top player in this draft.

It just does not make sense.

Jackson absolutely has potential. BUT he needs to bulk up with out a doubt. I am tired of the rebuilding...We been rebuilding for how many years already lol..This season is a wash..We need a top three pick and some vet talent to start making a playoff push

The problem isnt that we have been rebuilding for to long but we only committed to rebuilding a couple years ago. Everything before that was just the Suns holding on to being sucky and maybe making the playoffs. Now we just need to give the team time to develop.

bigfoot · Post #994 » by **bigfoot** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:02 am

Waylay13 wrote:
jsierra1985 wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:Any deal that has us giving up assets in any kind of salary dump just does not make sense. The Suns should be doing the opposite. They should be willing to take on salary to GET assets--as long as that salary does not extend beyond the summer of 2019. There is a plan in place. They need to stick with it.

Giving up Jackson is silly. He is a potential star player. Yes. He is. We are only a few weeks into his rookie year. HE is what rebuilding teams are trying to get. Now if we could package a couple of young players to get a better star player, maybe. But that would have to be a top player in this draft.

It just does not make sense.

Jackson absolutely has potential. BUT he needs to bulk up with out a doubt. I am tired of the rebuilding...We been rebuilding for how many years already lol..This season is a wash..We need a top three pick and some vet talent to start making a playoff push

The problem isnt that we have been rebuilding for to long but we only committed to rebuilding a couple years ago. Everything before that was just the Suns holding on to being sucky and maybe making the playoffs. Now we just need to give the team time to develop.

The real problem is we should always be rebuilding and developing players. During the Nash era we dumped a lot of our draft picks and then didn't make any quality picks. Instead we only loaded the team up with veterans. We really we had a bad drought of picks between Amare (2002) and TJ Warren/Booker (2014/2015). Dragic might be the only other good pick that we got from the Spurs.

jcsunsfan · Post #995 » by **jcsunsfan** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:22 am

No point in trying to move Monroe quickly. He has an injury anyway.

Post #996 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:22 am

bigfoot wrote:
Waylay13 wrote:
jsierra1985 wrote:

Jackson absolutely has potential. BUT he needs to bulk up with out a doubt. I am tired of the rebuilding...We been rebuilding for how many years already lol..This season is a wash..We need a top three pick and some vet talent to start making a playoff push

The problem isnt that we have been rebuilding for to long but we only committed to rebuilding a couple years ago. Everything before that was just the Suns holding on to being sucky and maybe making the playoffs. Now we just need to give the team time to develop.

The real problem is we should always be rebuilding and developing players. During the Nash era we dumped a lot of our draft picks and then didn't make any quality picks. Instead we only loaded the team up with veterans. We really we had a bad drought of picks between Amare (2002) and TJ Warren/Booker (2014/2015). Dragic might be the only other good pick that we got from the Spurs.

That Hawks pick for JJ was so close to being a lot better. It was top 3 protected I think and they got Horford with the 3rd pick. Had we gotten him way back then losing Amare wouldn't have been a big deal. But yeah, we end up drafting Earl Clark, Robin Lopez (with the Hawks pick I think), then later Kendall Marshall, Markieff, Len...plus selling picks and trading away two first to get rid of Kurt Thomas (Serge Ibaka being one of the picks)...Lakers pick for Knight..

Frank Lee · Post #997 » by **Frank Lee** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:18 am

dirty water under the bridge.... best not to re-drink it

YouTube · Post #998 » by **Kerrsed** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:43 am

Cav's getting manhandled by the Knicks tonight, lol.

It really is amazing how much they are struggling without Irving.

Celtics with Irving and no Hayward: 12-2.
Cav's with no Irving: 6-7 (Soon to be 6-8).

Revived · Post #999 » by **Revived** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:50 am

Kerrsed wrote:Cav's getting manhandled by the Knicks tonight, lol.

It really is amazing how much they are struggling without Irving.

Celtics with Irving and no Hayward: 12-2.
Cav's with no Irving: 6-7 (Soon to be 6-8).

Can’t forget Cavs are still missing IT. Boston has an adequate replacement for Hayward in Brown/Tatum.

Post #1000 » by **lilfishi22** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:40 am

Kerrsed wrote:Cav's getting manhandled by the Knicks tonight, lol.

It really is amazing how much they are struggling without Irving.

Celtics with Irving and no Hayward: 12-2.
Cav's with no Irving: 6-7 (Soon to be 6-8).

Only down 7