Trade and free agency speculation

[jredsaz]

I guess I wasn't aware of what he was and wasn't told. I do recall him being benched because the coach didn't like the decisions he was making and he got better after that. Seemed like he became less aggressive at that point and stopped forcing things as much into a bunch of traffic.

Lol. You weren't in the meetings?!

He was benched because he was out of control. Thats different. When he got back he was still told to be aggressive. Look at his usage numbers. Those numbers dont happen because the player is "selfish" or simply "ball dominat". It's part of his development. The organization wanted him to have the ball in his hands a lot. Make a lot of plays and - in the end - mistakes.

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It's his nature to be aggressive. My guess is he would be coached to be less aggressive on offense outside of a fast break with a mismatch, and perhaps aggressive in certain situations, but given the lineup he was playing with the last month or so, heck, what can you expect?

That's what I've been saying. Judging his game by efficiency stats is pointless. Let's see where he goes next season. I'm hoping for a nice improvement

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I do not know how I am feeling about Rondo.

The talent is obvious and he is a GREAT passer, but he lacks shooting and he is difficult guy in the locker room.

His defense is average at best.
IDK.

So they want to sign a guy who dissed us last season

Ah nearly forgot about that. Didn’t McD say something back to him as well about him being part of garbage teams in Boston till the KG trade?

[JoRain]

Didn't see this posted but read the last paragraph here....McD is a definitely a Beverley fan

What about Knight? isn't he supposed to start at PG? with possibly Ulis/Cannan/Okobo backing him up? so already a plethora of possible PG's to choose from. And yes I know Cannan isn't officially part of the team, but I think McD was the one that mentioned somewhere earlier how Cannan has been working out with the team prior to the draft, so I expect there's some kind of arrangement in place with him.

On the other hand, if we do go after a PG, I would love Suns to look into Exum - the guy has been plagued with unlucky injuries, but when playing, he's shown some flashes. He's a long PG who can bring the ball up and he is a pretty darn good defender. Exactly what you need next to Book. He's not exactly a vet, but been in the league for 4 years and is on our timeline as well. Also, Igor knows him and coached him last year so that's a plus as well.

Exum isn't really a PG, he's a SG. His game reminds me of Andre Robertson, very excellent defensively.

Exum was a PG for most of his life, even when he came into nba. injuries derailed him some so he was relegated to playing a role in Utah. He was a scoring PG, but PG nonetheless, so he should still know how to handle the ball, start an offense and he was always an adept passer. he' s not much of a shooter, but for his defense, I would love Suns to look at him.

[Mjee]

**** Rondo.

He is complete trash and wouldn't do anything different/better than Payton.

Ill take Beverly all day over Rondo.

BTW 75% of this board has a better jumpshot than his overated ass.

no thanks

[BobbieL]

Listening to Burns and Gambo - they keep talking that the Suns have 15-18m of cap space to make the team better

Do these guys not realize that the Suns have expiring contracts to trade for players that "stretch" your cap space? or that Dudley or Chandler can be stretched.

The Suns can be creative to get players more than just cap space too. Plus if the Suns have three rookies, add a PF and Guard - they will need to move players - other than releasing a Ulis and Willaiams

Gambo is saying these names as forward: Ariza, Ilyasova and Doug McDermott

Favors, per Gambo - not a floor spacer.

[Djedefre]

**** Rondo.

He is complete trash and wouldn't do anything different/better than Payton.

Ill take Beverly all day over Rondo.

BTW 75% of this board has a better jumpshot than his overated ass.

no thanks

Not gonna lie, i’m money from 20 feet

[LukasBMW]

Maybe OT, but if Dallas can sign Capela, holy smokes...quick rebuild

-DSJ
-Doncic
-???
-Barnes
-Capela

That's not half bad. Next years draft is loaded with wings, so 1 more tank season + lotto luck and they start looking decent.

[matt131]

Maybe OT, but if Dallas can sign Capela, holy smokes...quick rebuild

-DSJ
-Doncic
-???
-Barnes
-Capela

That's not half bad. Next years draft is loaded with wings, so 1 more tank season + lotto luck and they start looking decent.

Dallas will of course be good. I like ayton and all but,

Doncic
Booker
Mikal
JJ
Capela

would have been incredibly good. Playmaking, defense, AND scoring. If free agency was before the draft and we landed Capela and drafted Doncic, I think that team is slightly better than any team we can put out in the next few years simply because we won't have a young, playmaking point guard.

[darealjuice]

Listening to Burns and Gambo - they keep talking that the Suns have 15-18m of cap space to make the team better

Do these guys not realize that the Suns have expiring contracts to trade for players that "stretch" your cap space? or that Dudley or Chandler can be stretched.

The Suns can be creative to get players more than just cap space too. Plus if the Suns have three rookies, add a PF and Guard - they will need to move players - other than releasing a Ulis and Willaiams

Gambo is saying these names as forward: Ariza, Ilyasova and Doug McDermott

Favors, per Gambo - not a floor spacer.

It's not worth stretching them. This free agent class is mediocre outside of the max contract players that we won't attract and the RFAs that will have their offers matched. We should be looking to maintain cap flexibility to bring in top tier free agents as this team develops, not unnecessarily tie it up over the next 4 years to sign a few role players that barely move the needle.

[BobbieL]

Maybe OT, but if Dallas can sign Capela, holy smokes...quick rebuild

-DSJ
-Doncic
-???
-Barnes
-Capela

That's not half bad. Next years draft is loaded with wings, so 1 more tank season + lotto luck and they start looking decent.

Houston can match and if James doesn't go to Houston - my guess the Rockets match. Especially the Mavs

Deandre Jordan - he might "opt in" this week so he can be trade a la Paul last year. I am not sure what the Clippers get out of the deal unless its like Powell and unprotected picks. And Wes Matthews to make the math work

Powell, Matthews and picks for Jordan and Beverly or Wes Johnson

[thamadkant]

People here still hating on Rondo's skills and talent.

The guy killed it in the playoffs and in the regular season.


But with that said.. He seems to be problematic if he doesn't get along with players or coaching.
Suns can't add someone like that on a young team that are trying to form chemistry.


So personality wise and timeline wise I don't think Rondo is the right player... But saying he sucks are wrong... He's good But just not suitable for the Suns.

[BobbieL]

Listening to Burns and Gambo - they keep talking that the Suns have 15-18m of cap space to make the team better

Do these guys not realize that the Suns have expiring contracts to trade for players that "stretch" your cap space? or that Dudley or Chandler can be stretched.

The Suns can be creative to get players more than just cap space too. Plus if the Suns have three rookies, add a PF and Guard - they will need to move players - other than releasing a Ulis and Willaiams

Gambo is saying these names as forward: Ariza, Ilyasova and Doug McDermott

Favors, per Gambo - not a floor spacer.

It's not worth stretching them. This free agent class is mediocre outside of the max contract players that we won't attract and the RFAs that will have their offers matched. We should be looking to maintain cap flexibility to bring in top tier free agents as this team develops, not unnecessarily tie it up over the next 4 years to sign a few role players that barely move the needle.

I should have added - only stretching those guys for the right player and from my list - its one guy who goes by PG13 and he probably isn't coming here

Second, I don't disagree that the team doesn't want to go to crazy in free agency. But that doesn't mean a team with what 13 players under contract, drafted three guys and will sign two more - won't make other moves. So, just odd that Gambo wouldn;t' say the team could trade an expiring Chandler with Chriss for a forward or something.

[darealjuice]

Listening to Burns and Gambo - they keep talking that the Suns have 15-18m of cap space to make the team better

Do these guys not realize that the Suns have expiring contracts to trade for players that "stretch" your cap space? or that Dudley or Chandler can be stretched.

The Suns can be creative to get players more than just cap space too. Plus if the Suns have three rookies, add a PF and Guard - they will need to move players - other than releasing a Ulis and Willaiams

Gambo is saying these names as forward: Ariza, Ilyasova and Doug McDermott

Favors, per Gambo - not a floor spacer.

It's not worth stretching them. This free agent class is mediocre outside of the max contract players that we won't attract and the RFAs that will have their offers matched. We should be looking to maintain cap flexibility to bring in top tier free agents as this team develops, not unnecessarily tie it up over the next 4 years to sign a few role players that barely move the needle.

I should have added - only stretching those guys for the right player and from my list - its one guy who goes by PG13 and he probably isn't coming here

Second, I don't disagree that the team doesn't want to go to crazy in free agency. But that doesn't mean a team with what 13 players under contract, drafted three guys and will sign two more - won't make other moves. So, just odd that Gambo wouldn;t' say the team could trade an expiring Chandler with Chriss for a forward or something.

I figured that's what you meant

We will definitely make some moves. We can't even get to that 15-18M figure without waiving Sauce, Ulis, Reed, Peters, and Harrison. I think that Chandler and Dudley's value as expiring contracts is higher toward the trade deadline when teams want to free up space for the offseason or get out of long term money.

[Saberestar]

Listening to Burns and Gambo - they keep talking that the Suns have 15-18m of cap space to make the team better

Do these guys not realize that the Suns have expiring contracts to trade for players that "stretch" your cap space? or that Dudley or Chandler can be stretched.

The Suns can be creative to get players more than just cap space too. Plus if the Suns have three rookies, add a PF and Guard - they will need to move players - other than releasing a Ulis and Willaiams

Gambo is saying these names as forward: Ariza, Ilyasova and Doug McDermott

Favors, per Gambo - not a floor spacer.

I think that we do not need any of them because we have Warren, Jackson and Bridges who are better players already than these veteran guys.

Ariza is 33 years old and he replicates what Bridges brings to this team. I do not want him.

McDermott is a terrible defender/rebounder. Good 3p shooter...but that is his only weapon.
Similar to Troy Daniels who is already on the roster.

Ilyasova makes some sense...but he is not more than a bench player who is an average rebounder/defender at best. I would not pay him more than $5M per year.

[BobbieL]

It's not worth stretching them. This free agent class is mediocre outside of the max contract players that we won't attract and the RFAs that will have their offers matched. We should be looking to maintain cap flexibility to bring in top tier free agents as this team develops, not unnecessarily tie it up over the next 4 years to sign a few role players that barely move the needle.

I should have added - only stretching those guys for the right player and from my list - its one guy who goes by PG13 and he probably isn't coming here

Second, I don't disagree that the team doesn't want to go to crazy in free agency. But that doesn't mean a team with what 13 players under contract, drafted three guys and will sign two more - won't make other moves. So, just odd that Gambo wouldn;t' say the team could trade an expiring Chandler with Chriss for a forward or something.

I figured that's what you meant

We will definitely make some moves. We can't even get to that 15-18M figure without waiving Sauce, Ulis, Reed, Peters, and Harrison. I think that Chandler and Dudley's value as expiring contracts is higher toward the trade deadline when teams want to free up space for the offseason or get out of long term money.

Personally, and this would mean waiving Williams, Reed and Harrison (and I want to keep Shaq as I like his defense and Reed being waived would be just a nail they didn't draft Bell or Semi - but beyond that) - if the moves the Suns made were Beverly and Ilysova on one year deals-- would be good with both.

[Saberestar]

Listening to Burns and Gambo - they keep talking that the Suns have 15-18m of cap space to make the team better

Do these guys not realize that the Suns have expiring contracts to trade for players that "stretch" your cap space? or that Dudley or Chandler can be stretched.

The Suns can be creative to get players more than just cap space too. Plus if the Suns have three rookies, add a PF and Guard - they will need to move players - other than releasing a Ulis and Willaiams

Gambo is saying these names as forward: Ariza, Ilyasova and Doug McDermott

Favors, per Gambo - not a floor spacer.

It's not worth stretching them. This free agent class is mediocre outside of the max contract players that we won't attract and the RFAs that will have their offers matched. We should be looking to maintain cap flexibility to bring in top tier free agents as this team develops, not unnecessarily tie it up over the next 4 years to sign a few role players that barely move the needle.

I should have added - only stretching those guys for the right player and from my list - its one guy who goes by PG13 and he probably isn't coming here

Second, I don't disagree that the team doesn't want to go to crazy in free agency. But that doesn't mean a team with what 13 players under contract, drafted three guys and will sign two more - won't make other moves. So, just odd that Gambo wouldn;t' say the team could trade an expiring Chandler with Chriss for a forward or something.

McDonough always says the same things after the season. "We are gonna be agressive in FA" and bla bla bla....but great players do not wanna play for us. So we are talking about mediocre players like McDermott.

It is a little bit sad...hopefully next season we are finally a winning team and we can sign a really good FA next summer.

[Jwetz83]

I want to see what Chriss does this year before trading him.

Hopefully last year was a reality check. I think with better point guard play and a different mind set to the off season, he can be a productive player in this league.

[bwoolf2]

2019 is the year we should look to be aggressive. its a much better FA class and we have Chandler and Dudley coming off the books if we dont move them mid year for a valuable asset. This is the year to let our lottery picks get every opportunity to play under a real coach with a real system. Get some vets on 1 year deals if possible or some reasonable short term deals, there are literally no players that are worth 10 million a year or more that want to come here so wait this out one more year its the smart move long term.

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[Saberestar]

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Good trade for the Wizards. Gortat is done.