2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III

[BobbieL]

The 2031 unprotected was the only draft asset we had of any meaning

All these 3-4 way swapped picks are pretty useless to base a rebuild on

Unless you blow it up -

[kennydorglas]

Hahaha Sacramento getting 3 1sts for fox just after that trade is ludicrous lol.

Silver is a bitch.

[bigfoot]

Old injury-prone max contract for old injury-prone max contract should be a fair straight up swap. Beal a bit younger than Butler too. Beal playing for the Suns right now. Butler suspended and doesn't want to play or resign with the Heat. Get Miami to include a second.

[49erhokie827]

Hopefully they trade for Butler today. Could use him for OKC.

[BobbieL]

Old injury-prone max contract for old injury-prone max contract should be a fair straight up swap. Beal a bit younger than Butler too. Beal playing for the Suns right now. Butler suspended and doesn't want to play or resign with the Heat. Get Miami to include a second.

And if Riley doesn’t want it - ishbia should move on.

Last thing mat should do is overpay for butler. If butler stays home for 14 months … so be it

[Saberestar]

By all accounts, the Phoenix Suns still want to trade for Jimmy Butler. In order to do so, Bradley Beal would need to approve a trade. Nothing has changed there. But there now some insight into Beal's hesitancy to approve a trade.

When Beal was traded to the Suns, his entire family moved from Washington to Phoenix with him. Now, Beal is hesitant to uproot his family again, two years later. That's why it would have to be a perfect situation for the veteran guard to approve a trade.

For Beal to approve a trade, he'd be looking for a team that is in a winning situation in a desirable city. Reportedly, Beal would prefer to stay in a warm-weather city, but the basketball situation can trump that desire.

Despite the fact that the Miami Heat would fit Beal's criteria, the Heat don't want to take on Beal's contract. Miami is seeking to keep as much cap flexibility for 2026 and beyond as possible in a potential Butler trade.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6106103/2025/02/02/jimmy-butler-trade-destinations-warriors-bucks-sixers-suns/

[49erhokie827]

By all accounts, the Phoenix Suns still want to trade for Jimmy Butler. In order to do so, Bradley Beal would need to approve a trade. Nothing has changed there. But there now some insight into Beal's hesitancy to approve a trade.

When Beal was traded to the Suns, his entire family moved from Washington to Phoenix with him. Now, Beal is hesitant to uproot his family again, two years later. That's why it would have to be a perfect situation for the veteran guard to approve a trade.

For Beal to approve a trade, he'd be looking for a team that is in a winning situation in a desirable city. Reportedly, Beal would prefer to stay in a warm-weather city, but the basketball situation can trump that desire.

Despite the fact that the Miami Heat would fit Beal's criteria, the Heat don't want to take on Beal's contract. Miami is seeking to keep as much cap flexibility for 2026 and beyond as possible in a potential Butler trade.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6106103/2025/02/02/jimmy-butler-trade-destinations-warriors-bucks-sixers-suns/

Miami will just have to learn to accept Beal and come to the realization no FA is coming to them 2026 and beyond anyways.

[King4Day]

By all accounts, the Phoenix Suns still want to trade for Jimmy Butler. In order to do so, Bradley Beal would need to approve a trade. Nothing has changed there. But there now some insight into Beal's hesitancy to approve a trade.

When Beal was traded to the Suns, his entire family moved from Washington to Phoenix with him. Now, Beal is hesitant to uproot his family again, two years later. That's why it would have to be a perfect situation for the veteran guard to approve a trade.

For Beal to approve a trade, he'd be looking for a team that is in a winning situation in a desirable city. Reportedly, Beal would prefer to stay in a warm-weather city, but the basketball situation can trump that desire.

Despite the fact that the Miami Heat would fit Beal's criteria, the Heat don't want to take on Beal's contract. Miami is seeking to keep as much cap flexibility for 2026 and beyond as possible in a potential Butler trade.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6106103/2025/02/02/jimmy-butler-trade-destinations-warriors-bucks-sixers-suns/

Miami will just have to learn to accept Beal and come to the realization no FA is coming to them 2026 and beyond anyways.

2 of their targets have come off the board with Fox and Luka.
Not saying they should accept Beal, but unless they want to rebuild, or be trade facilitators, I'm not sure they'll get the big fish they desire.

[King4Day]

Hahaha Sacramento getting 3 1sts for fox just after that trade is ludicrous lol.

Silver is a bitch.

Charlotte's first will become 2 seconds unless they find a way into the playoffs.
And one of the firsts went to Chicago for Lavine.

But even with 5 total 2nds and 3 firsts, that's a lot.
Yes Davis is great, but Dallas, not letting teams make a best offer, just shows how bad a GM Nico is.

[BobbieL]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6106103/2025/02/02/jimmy-butler-trade-destinations-warriors-bucks-sixers-suns/

Miami will just have to learn to accept Beal and come to the realization no FA is coming to them 2026 and beyond anyways.

2 of their targets have come off the board with Fox and Luka.
Not saying they should accept Beal, but unless they want to rebuild, or be trade facilitators, I'm not sure they'll get the big fish they desire.

So if I am the Heat - I would rather buy out Butler than do something stupid. Which is what Isbhia will end up doing to get Jimmy Butler. I have no idea why the guy has such a woody for Jimmy Butler. There are other ways to improve the team

You subtract Beal and add Butler - truly not sure that helps the teams biggest issue. Ishbia trading for Butler is just making a trade to get on ESPN. Ishbia is just like Flex -- they just want the sizzle -- roster building be damned. Just make trades and get headlines.

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[bullsaficianado]

Maybe Bradley Beal should come out with his own coffee table game. Called "Trade Brad". One team in the game he waives his NTC for.

[SunsRback4Good]

Maybe Bradley Beal should come out with his own coffee table game. Called "Trade Brad". One team in the game he waives his NTC for.

[49erhokie827]

Maybe Bradley Beal should come out with his own coffee table game. Called "Trade Brad". One team in the game he waives his NTC for.

He will be a Heat, Riley will cave.

[kennydorglas]

Hahaha Sacramento getting 3 1sts for fox just after that trade is ludicrous lol.

Silver is a bitch.

Charlotte's first will become 2 seconds unless they find a way into the playoffs.
And one of the firsts went to Chicago for Lavine.

But even with 5 total 2nds and 3 firsts, that's a lot.
Yes Davis is great, but Dallas, not letting teams make a best offer, just shows how bad a GM Nico is.

For them to directly and only talk to Lakers is bizarre.
This screams SAVE THE LAKERS.
**** gobert went for 4 1sts. No way in hell this trade would happen with any other team but the Lakers.

[BobbieL]

Hahaha Sacramento getting 3 1sts for fox just after that trade is ludicrous lol.

Silver is a bitch.

Charlotte's first will become 2 seconds unless they find a way into the playoffs.
And one of the firsts went to Chicago for Lavine.

But even with 5 total 2nds and 3 firsts, that's a lot.
Yes Davis is great, but Dallas, not letting teams make a best offer, just shows how bad a GM Nico is.

For them to directly and only talk to Lakers is bizarre.
This screams SAVE THE LAKERS.
**** gobert went for 4 1sts. No way in hell this trade would happen with any other team but the Lakers.

Very much so

If Davis were 27– maybe
But this is a joke and that writer in Miami thinks silver needs to step in on a butler impasse. That’s BS

[Ghost of Kleine]

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His family would be ecstatic to live in Miami. Who they trying to kid here?

[49erhokie827]

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Hopefully by that he means Butler lol.