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are we still the best offense in the league?

Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2010 8:24 pm
by sunsfan16
with amare gone do you guys think we can still average 110 ppg?

Re: are we still the best offense in the league?

Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2010 8:27 pm
by lou_skywalker
I'm sure we can, but last season they showed us that they don't have to. They can still win grind out games (kind of) but yea, i expect the 110ppg avg. to be sustained.

Re: are we still the best offense in the league?

Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2010 8:31 pm
by MaryvalesFinest
I wouldn't be surprised if they average more points, when Amare was out half the season with the eye injury they averaged close to 120ppg. Going to have to run more than they ever did though because they don't want to get into a half court game with guys like Frye and Warrick. They wont have a problem scoring but not sure if that will translate into wins though but we'll see...

Re: are we still the best offense in the league?

Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2010 8:33 pm
by albasuna
the question is... does their defense improve?

Re: are we still the best offense in the league?

Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2010 8:48 pm
by Miklo
sunsfan16 wrote:with amare gone do you guys think we can still average 110 ppg?



Check your PM's

Thanks


Everyone can keep discussing; I'm not locking, was just getting OP's attention :wink:

Re: are we still the best offense in the league?

Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2010 9:06 pm
by Miklo
I think it rests largely on who replaces Amar'e's scoring. Will Nash be just as easily able to find a target the same % of times on offense?

Personally I think JRich is gonna have to show up night in and night out. If not, then I wanna see Barbosa take a huge step up. Warrick/Frye are gonna have to prove their worth on the inside.

Re: are we still the best offense in the league?

Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2010 9:07 pm
by Sun Scorched
Same offense. Richardson will lead our team with 25 ppg, no problem. Our bench will continue to be one of (if not the) best scoring benches in the league.

Take it easy on the threads though.

Re: are we still the best offense in the league?

Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2010 9:11 pm
by sunsfan16
Miklo wrote:I think it rests largely on who replaces Amar'e's scoring. Will Nash be just as easily able to find a target the same % of times on offense?

Personally I think JRich is gonna have to show up night in and night out. If not, then I wanna see Barbosa take a huge step up. Warrick/Frye are gonna have to prove their worth on the inside.


i think that nash will be able to find robin inside, jrich should be able to provide as a big scorer, we need barbosa to put up at least 14 a night and i havent really payed attention to warrick but i hope channing can learn an inside game

Re: are we still the best offense in the league?

Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2010 10:46 pm
by raff
I just hope that our roster change up doesn't eventually lead to Nash having to take more shots with the shot clock running down because we got stuck on offense. Who, apart from maybe JRich, do we have to iso with like 10 seconds left, and let him create. I should add that it would be awesome if Clark could take some of this. Adding more shots onto Nash probably isn't such a great idea at this point.

An interesting idea, and I'm not sure if it would work, would be to play Dragic and Nash together at some point, and try Nash as a spot up shooter, with Dragic handling the ball. Just something new that we could try in a few games where it wouldn't hurt us too much defensively, which would be very few games, if any at all.

Re: are we still the best offense in the league?

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2010 12:50 am
by gaillour13
Well it's hard to tell at this point, if we sign another good PF to take his place now that we have a huge trade exception then we might. Right now I doubt we score as many points, it's hard to replace a guy that averaged 20+ ppg. I see us especially losing a good amount of points that we normally got in the pick and roll game.

Re: are we still the best offense in the league?

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2010 1:44 am
by TXSun
i think the heat might be now with Lebron.

Re: are we still the best offense in the league?

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2010 2:33 am
by toucansma
What does this say about our offense? It wasn't that much different?

(from Amare Chat)

[Comment From STAT FAN STAT FAN : ]
So excited to see you tearin' it up at the Mecca!! How does it feel to be back with coach D'Antoni?


Amare: Back to the high scoring exciting basketball again!

Re: are we still the best offense in the league?

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2010 2:57 am
by chrice
Lebron 30ppg, Wade 30ppg, Bosh 20ppg. That'll be tough. They may actually have better scoring opportunities with each other on the floor.

Re: are we still the best offense in the league?

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2010 4:53 am
by RunSunRun
I can see us putting up pretty good offensive numbers again next year, maybe not top in the league, but probably top 3.

I think Lopez is getting more touches this season and probably Frye. Warrick will be interesting, I don't think he will get many touches initially, but once teams move over more towards defending Lopez, it might open up more for him by midseason.

Re: are we still the best offense in the league?

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2010 5:49 am
by RaisingArizona
TXSun wrote:i think the heat might be now with Lebron.


You think?

Re: are we still the best offense in the league?

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2010 5:54 am
by realsunsfan
ginobiliflops wrote:
TXSun wrote:i think the heat might be now with Lebron.


You think?


Lebron is going to have to give up some of his scoring to fit in with Wade and Bosh, he will have to facilitate more than score himself.......only one of them can score at a time and there just isn't enough posessions for them all...........

Re: are we still the best offense in the league?

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2010 6:09 am
by thamadkant
Im still struggling to see Wade and Lebron co-exists and put up great stats with 1 ball...

Rebounds wise, LeBron will have no problem.. even steals and blocks.... but points and assists might tumble depending on who runs the offense...


LeBron is not use to playing off the ball most of the game also.... Wade is same boat... the ball has to be on their hands... and both are not spot up shooters or off-screen shooters like Allen, Reggie Miller.. Hamilton etc..

If Wade handles the ball..... then LeBron will put up around 18-20 point 5 assists 9-10 rebounds 2 blocks 2 steals... with Wade averaging 27 points 8 assists 5 rebounds...4 turn overs lol.



If LeBron handles the ball... then LeBron will put up 27 points 8 assists 8 rebounds...
Wade will average 18 points 4 assists 5 rebounds...


both players get in each others way... Riley will need to find a happy medium... because both players score and play their best with theit ball in their hand driving to the basket...