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Turk for Barbs
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:14 am
by plonden
Suns are on verge of acquiring Hedo Turkoglu in exchange for Leandro Barbosa & adding Josh Childress in a sign-and-trade. Link to come.
From Paul Coro's Twitter Account
Turk's contract is pretty bad. Again, not a player I am sure we need at this point but I am not a huge fan of Barbosa so I am going to reserve judgment until we see the details.
Re: Turk for Barbs
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:18 am
by Blackification
The Suns are on the verge of acquiring forwards Hedo Turkoglu and Josh Childress, swiftly rebounding from the loss of Amar'e Stoudemire with two quality impact players.
The Suns would send guard Leandro Barbosa to Toronto for Turkoglu, a 6-foot-10 Turkish forward with versatile skills to shoot from long range and be a playmaker.
Turkoglu, 31, has played 10 NBA seasons with four teams and wanted out of Toronto after an unhappy first season there. He averaged 11.3 points last season on 40.9 percent shootings, his lowest scoring average and shooting percentage in six years. Two seasons ago, Turkoglu was the NBA Most Improved Player when he averaged 19.5 points, 5.7 rebounds and 5.6 assists with Orlando and followed it up with a 2008-09 season with averages of 16.8 points, 5.3 rebounds and 4.9 assists.
Turkoglu could become the Suns' starting power forward in place of Stoudemire, allowing new acquisition Hakim Warrick to come off the bench with Childress, Channing Frye, Jared Dudley and Goran Dragic.
Phoenix would acquire Childress in a sign-and-trade deal with Atlanta, which still has his rights after he left the Hawks and the NBA to take a three-year, $20 million deal with the Greek team Olympiakos in 2008. Childress, 27, is able to leave Greece early and has agreed to a five-year, $30 million deal with the Suns. He is a 6-foot-8 swingman who averaged 11.1 points over four seasons with Atlanta, shooting 52.2 percent from the field and 36 percent on the 3-pointers.
Phoenix will give up a future second-round pick to acquire Childress.
The Suns would use some of their remaining $12.2 million trade exception to make both deals. They acquired the exception in the Stoudemire sign-and-trade Friday and used the first $4 million of it to do a sign-and-trade for Warrick.
Turkoglu is represented by Lon Babby, who leagues sources have said will be the next leader of the Suns' basketball operations. Until recently, Childress was represented by Babby's agency before he switched to Octagon.
Read more:
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/ar ... z0tR08ejA1
Re: Turk for Barbs
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:18 am
by plonden
[quote=http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2010/07/11/20100711phoenix-suns-acquire-hedo-turkoglu-josh-childress.html]Here is the link to Coro's story[/quote].
Re: Turk for Barbs
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:20 am
by Calvin Klein
holy s.... This is risky.
I don't know what to think...
Re: Turk for Barbs
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:20 am
by Blackification
im not too hot on hedo
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Re: Turk for Barbs
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:22 am
by LV-Suns
Oh please God, please don't. Turk's contract doesn't run out till 2014 and he has a nasty trade kicker in his contract.
Why are we collecting all the wing players...
Re: Turk for Barbs
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:23 am
by Calvin Klein
Turk as PF? Wouldn't he get destroyed on the boards/defense? What about his contract then? We would be getting an even worse contract than Barbosa I would say.
Re: Turk for Barbs
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:23 am
by A roc 23
This is terrible.
With Hedo's trade kicker he costs like 12-13 million a year until 2014.
Unless he can waive the trade kicker because he wants to come to Phoenix?
He's a terrible defender guys . . . but he can handle the ball like no one on this team has handled it outside of Nash in YEARS.
Re: Turk for Barbs
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:26 am
by -InFeRnO-
As a Toronto fan, there aren't too many positive aspects of his tenure here to share with you guys..
However, I truly do feel a change of scenery and an improved work ethic could bring out the Hedo we saw win MIP with Orlando.
Don't be TOO worried about him (besides the contract I guess).
Re: Turk for Barbs
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:27 am
by raff
Ah this isn't very good.
Re: Turk for Barbs
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:28 am
by sunfire0112
LV-Suns wrote:Oh please God, please don't.
Re: Turk for Barbs
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:29 am
by Blackification
I'm worried about the chemistry.. hedo might ruin it.. especially since barbosa brought a lot off the court.
Re: Turk for Barbs
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:33 am
by Chandler55
hedo is awesome he defended lebron in the magic/cavs series, he is very underrated, the best passing forward in the game probably, other than lebron. but then thats probably a weird fit seeing nash already does that :/
hedo will be lazy in unimportant games, but then he brings it when its a real game (i.e. playoffs). if amare is a bad defender/reboudner as people say he is maybe the suns even improve with these new players
Re: Turk for Barbs
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:34 am
by premiumsqueezed
I suppose the Suns are prepping for Hill's retirement by obtaining his offensive (Turkoglu) and defensive (Childress) replacements. Only, they're a hell of a lot more expensive.
Re: Turk for Barbs
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:34 am
by BobbieL
Typical Sarver - he had opportunities to get a real PF like Boozer if he had used the sign and trade and cap exception properly - but instead the next week - overpays for Turkoglu. HIs contract is horrible. Just horrible - the cap space they had coming for LB in two years is gone.
Now the move for Childress - I can see that one
But I am not a fan of this move as I think the money spent on Turkoglu could have been spent on a PF to replace Amare. Granted, he will thrive in our system. But he is 31 years old, not happy with this move
Sarver being Sarver - one week saving cash; the next week spending on and even worse contract. Why am I not surprised
Re: Turk for Barbs
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:35 am
by A roc 23
Don't get me wrong. I love Hedo as the starting small foward on this team.
But his contract is terrible and he had a terrible year. I just don't understand it.
Oh yeah, and the fact that they plan on playing him as the starting POWER FORWARD makes me really, really unhappy.
Re: Turk for Barbs
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:35 am
by LukasBMW
WTF?
If we are going to pay Turkoglu, Frye, and Chilldress, why the hell didn't we just sign amare?
Turks is owed: $44 million over the next 4 years
Chilldress is owed $30 million over the next 5 years
Frye is owed $30 million over the next 5 years
That's $104 million.
We could have gotten Amare for $100 million over 5 years.
I'm not an Amare fan, but Amare > Turks + Chilldress + Frye.
Sarver is an IDIOT who got butt **** buy Turkoglu's agent.
We spent $104 million this year on marginal players. I would have rather seen the Suns keep the cap space until after the CBA.
**** ing idiots.
Re: Turk for Barbs
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:36 am
by Mr. Sun
I like Childress, but Turk? He isn't the slasher LB is.
Re: Turk for Barbs
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:36 am
by -SDU-
personally I think its a great trade
with the emergence of dragic, barbosa has become a luxury that we dont need. We had to get taller at backup SG to handle the bigger guards in the NBA - childress addresses this
this now means our bench is now loaded - with dragic, childress, dudley, warrick, frye - we can play that 2 unit game again
i fully expect turkoglu to average 16 6 and 5 in our system and we will love his playmaking from the PF spot
im very very happy with this deal
Re: Turk for Barbs
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:37 am
by Blackification
LukasBMW wrote:WTF?
If we are going to pay Turkoglu, Frye, and Chilldress, why the hell didn't we just sign amare?
Turks is owed: $44 million over the next 4 years
Chilldress is owed $30 million over the next 5 years
Frye is owed $30 million over the next 5 years
That's $104 million.
We could have gotten Amare for $100 million over 5 years.
I'm not an Amare fan, but Amare > Turks + Chilldress + Frye.
Sarver is an IDIOT who got butt **** buy Turkoglu's agent.
We spent $104 million this year on marginal players. I would have rather seen the Suns keep the cap space until after the CBA.
**** idiots.
The suns medical staff warned about signing amare for a 5 year contract because of his knees and sarver did the right thing by listening to the best medical staff in the league and offering a contract to amare where in his last two years he would be paid by how much he plays in case his knees blow out amare left to go to new york and get his guaranteed money and a chance to build a team there. You can't fault either side and sarver did the right thing imo.